The 10 Commandments are done away!

[vinsight4u]

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[Sundown]

Just looked up this verse on the net, and I would like to hear
your thoughts as to what it means. Thanks.
I see this section as only showing death that ends in victory is
over at the last trump. The wicked dead will rise much later, just ahead of the new heaven and new earth.

the sting of death - the cause of death -was brought on us
because of Adam's sin time with Eve.

Romans 6:14

Just because we are not under the law does not mean that the law of God are dismissed. The curse of the law was place on Christ on the cross not the law and because of grace it is not necessary to stone a person for God has a day of judgement set aside for casting into a lake of fire. In the old testament they walked in a righteous and blamelessly manner when they kept the law, but the law did not justify them it was faith. Abraham walked and was obedient to God's laws and commandment, but faith was what justified them. The pharisees omitted faith and made the law a burden and I can show you this from the word of God. First, I will let you search the scripture so that God will reveal to you why the law is to be kept and the law is not a burden. I am not hiding this truth from you, but I believe if you search the scriptures asking God to reveal it to you then you know that the laws are not done away with. If I show you the passage you will try to refute it. By the way, though this is not the passage I am talking about the law of God are stored and written within.

 

[BABerean2]

Just because we are not under the law does not mean that the law of God are dismissed. The curse of the law was place on Christ on the cross not the law and because of grace it is not necessary to stone a person for God has a day of judgement set aside for casting into a lake of fire. In the old testament they walked in a righteous and blamelessly manner when they kept the law, but the law did not justify them it was faith. Abraham walked and was obedient to God's laws and commandment, but faith was what justified them. The pharisees omitted faith and made the law a burden and I can show you this from the word of God. First, I will let you search the scripture so that God will reveal to you why the law is to be kept and the law is not a burden. I am not hiding this truth from you, but I believe if you search the scriptures asking God to reveal it to you then you know that the laws are not done away with. If I show you the passage you will try to refute it. By the way, though this is not the passage I am talking about the law of God are stored and written within.

Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses.


Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

He is the only one who could ever keep the Law of Moses.

If you cannot fulfill the contract to pay for your house and you have a wealthy relative who pays off the contract for you, the contract is not destroyed. It is fulfilled.

He has paid for a house for us. It is in New Jerusalem.


Heb 11:16 But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.


We are under the Law of Christ.

1Jn 3:22 and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.
1Jn 3:24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us.

 

[Sundown]

"Don't assume that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." True, he did not come to destroy and you only destroy that which is not good. God gave the law and the scriptures say they are holy and good. So then, what did he come to fulfill? He came to fulfill everything what was spoken of him. Many believers cannot see this because they were taught to take this verse to mean that he came to fulfill the Law. Keep on reading verse 18, "for truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished," which means the learn are still around stored and written within us. So, it could not be the law he was referring to when he said, I came to fulfill. Why would he fulfill the law that God gave? Did God not know what he was doing when he gave the law? Throughout scriptures it emphasizes the keeping the law and faith was part of it, Abraham kept all God's charges, but faith was what justified him. So what happened to faith? The Pharisees omitted faith from the law of God making it a burden and this is biblical. Where is the passage? I will let you research it in the scripture. If you search and fine then God will revealed it to you. I would not give you the passage to avoid a debate. Let God reveal it to you and you will have to debate with him

I will humbly state that I believe God has given me an understanding of the law. I studied this topic due to the way I saw those holding the law judge my Christian brethren who do not hold the learn. Also, I would not burden my Christian brethren except it be for 4 things, which the Apostle Paul stated.

 

[disciple1]

Just looked up this verse on the net, and I would like to hear
your thoughts as to what it means. Thanks.
I see this section as only showing death that ends in victory is
over at the last trump. The wicked dead will rise much later, just ahead of the new heaven and new earth.

the sting of death - the cause of death -was brought on us
because of Adam's sin time with Eve.

Romans 6:14

As long as the law exists so will sin, as it says the power of sin is the law.
Your better off with love, love covers over a great many sins.
1 peter chapter 4
8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
galatians chapter 3 verse 12
The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them."

 

[disciple1]

"Don't assume that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." True, he did not come to destroy and you only destroy that which is not good. God gave the law and the scriptures say they are holy and good. So then, what did he come to fulfill? He came to fulfill everything what was spoken of him. Many believers cannot see this because they were taught to take this verse to mean that he came to fulfill the Law. Keep on reading verse 18, "for truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished," which means the learn are still around stored and written within us. So, it could not be the law he was referring to when he said, I came to fulfill. Why would he fulfill the law that God gave? Did God not know what he was doing when he gave the law? Throughout scriptures it emphasizes the keeping the law and faith was part of it, Abraham kept all God's charges, but faith was what justified him. So what happened to faith? The Pharisees omitted faith from the law of God making it a burden and this is biblical. Where is the passage? I will let you research it in the scripture. If you search and fine then God will revealed it to you. I would not give you the passage to avoid a debate. Let God reveal it to you and you will have to debate with him

I will humbly state that I believe God has given me an understanding of the law. I studied this topic due to the way I saw those holding the law judge my Christian brethren who do not hold the learn. Also, I would not burden my Christian brethren except it be for 4 things, which the Apostle Paul stated.

Did I misunderstand you.
Ephesians chapter 2 verses 14-19
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two. thus making peace and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. Consequently , you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household.

 

[Sundown]

"The person who does these things will live by them." Read Romans 9 & 10, the law is not dismissed, it should be put in it right perspective. Do you know that Abraham kept God's laws, commandments, ordinances, Statures, charges and was justified by faith? If so, it just demonstrates that the law can be kept as long as your faith is in God. Do you know that the Pharisees made the law a burden when they omitted faith? With this being said, do a little research and if you want to really know if the law has to be kept God will reveal it through the scriptures.

 

[disciple1]

"The person who does these things will live by them." Read Romans 9 & 10, the law is not dismissed, it should be put in it right perspective. Do you know that Abraham kept God's laws, commandments, ordinances, Statures, charges and was justified by faith? If so, it just demonstrates that the law can be kept as long as your faith is in God. Do you know that the Pharisees made the law a burden when they omitted faith? With this being said, do a little research and if you want to really know if the law has to be kept God will reveal it through the scriptures.

Abraham didn't have Gods law, and you don't keep them, faith would be of no value if people kept the law.
11. If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come--one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?

12. For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law.


18. The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless

19. (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

 

[disciple1]

"The person who does these things will live by them." Read Romans 9 & 10, the law is not dismissed, it should be put in it right perspective. Do you know that Abraham kept God's laws, commandments, ordinances, Statures, charges and was justified by faith? If so, it just demonstrates that the law can be kept as long as your faith is in God. Do you know that the Pharisees made the law a burden when they omitted faith? With this being said, do a little research and if you want to really know if the law has to be kept God will reveal it through the scriptures.

This shows Abraham didn't keep the law, I don't think he had it, but wouldn't have kept it anyway.
Romans chapter 4
2 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God.

 

[Sundown]

Did I misunderstand you.
Ephesians chapter 2 verses 14-19
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two. thus making peace and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. Consequently , you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household.

 

[Sundown]

Did I misunderstand you.
Ephesians chapter 2 verses 14-19
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two. thus making peace and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. Consequently , you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household.

I will reply to you on this when I come back in a week, I am preparing to leave to Israel for a week, but my question to you, if the laws are done away with then what laws are store in our mind and written in our heart? In other words, we have to go to the original language to see exactly what was meant. Now, when we discuss this let to it with trying to prove ourselves right, but to put on the table what God's word say on it.

 

[Sundown]

Abraham didn't have Gods law, and you don't keep them, faith would be of no value if people kept the law.
11. If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come--one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?

12. For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law.


18. The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless

19. (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

Read Genesis 26:5, tell me what laws then was he keeping. Let's assume they were another type of law, the fact is that law and faith was present. Faith was exercised trust God that the law was going to be kept. But faith was what justified a man not the law.

 

[disciple1]

I will reply to you on this when I come back in a week, I am preparing to leave to Israel for a week, but my question to you, if the laws are done away with then what laws are store in our mind and written in our heart? In other words, we have to go to the original language to see exactly what was meant. Now, when we discuss this let to it with trying to prove ourselves right, but to put on the table what God's word say on it.

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself in love Galatians chapter 5 verse 6
Romans chapter 9 verses 30-Romans chapter 10 verse 4
What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone. As it is written: See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame. Brothers my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are Zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own the did not submit to God's righteousness, Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[disciple1]

There is more than one kind of faith in the Bible for the church.
faith - to move mountains
faith in Jesus Christ

1 Cor. 13 is the continuation of chapter 12 about gifts that
the church receives. faith is one of those gifts

I didn't look at it but here's one of those faiths.
Romans chapter 10 verse 17 consequently faith comes from hearing the message and the message is heard in the word of Christ.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[disciple1]

Step back to verse 5 where it shows that it is referring to
faith - as to the righteousness the believers get at His coming.

Galatians 5:5

We wait with this kind of faith as Christians.
There is also now given to some Christians - the gift of faith...just as wisdom, and prophecy, are given to some. This kind of faith is not
what justifies a believer in Jesus Christ.

If faith doesn't express itself in love it's worthless, it shows here what faith will do, if it's of value.
Matthew chapter 25 verses 31-46
When the Son of Man comes" in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. he will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me. then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and got visit you? The King will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me. Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you? He will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[disciple1]

Matthew 25 is not about the church/Christians.
It is for when the end of the world is upon people-both
wicked and just. Those still alive will be judged for how
they treated the least of the brethren. Right now, charity
matters -yes - but that is love as to the gifts the church is
given after Jesus Christ left and returned to heaven. But look what it says as to if you give all your stuff to the poor-but don't
have charity.

The people at the great tribulation time...are not going to be
required to feed the poor - go buy them groceries - then
to buy and sell requires the mark of the beast,

Ignore the chapter division from the end of chapter 24.
The end of chapter 24 is about a time referred to as "that
day". Just ahead it was setting the time as to when heaven
and earth shall pass away. This answers the other question
of the disciples - as -to the end of the world.
sign of Thy coming/Jesus seen seated on the right hand of power and coming in glory/6th seal
and
the end of the world/angels reap up the wicked people left
on the earth
The sheep inherit eternal life.
The goats go to the lake of fire - everlasting punishment.
/not to regular hell -but to eternal fire

I'm not saying your wrong but that's not what I believe, now you see why I don't go to church theirs just constant disagreements.
And pastors are treated like God.
Luke chapter 12
51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”