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[ExistenceUnknown]

Yes. You are indeed confused. Just try bypass all the words. Praying is the answer.
For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

Welcome to the conversation SkyWriting. Perhaps I can coax you into an answer that doesn't involve "praying" or "knowing god"? My question posits that a creator is real and that one religion or sect of a religion is the correct path to God and heaven.

Faith cannot be used, as all religions have faith that their's is the one true god.
Praying cannot be used, as all religions pray to their version of god.
Personal experience cannot be used, as most religious people have personal experience that their god is real.

Now, how is it possible to know 100% that the Authentic Version line of Bibles are Divinely Inspired by God, and the NIV was corrupted by Satan without using the above items to come to this conclusion?

Consider this my "Apple Challenge" if you must AV.

 

[AV1611VET]

Now, how is it possible to know 100% that the Authentic Version line of Bibles are Divinely Inspired by God, and the NIV was corrupted by Satan without using the above items to come to this conclusion?

Are you going to keep asking this question over and over; despite the fact that I answered it already?

 

[SkyWriting]

... Einstein says that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. Scientists will not accept that as dogma, they will try to find a way to prove him wrong, or at least get around it. If he is wrong we will celebrate that day.

I think Einstein proposed the wormhole which would result in distances traveled faster than the speed of light. And Sci-Fiction writers have been partying a lot ever since.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think Einstein proposed the wormhole which would result in distances traveled faster than the speed of light. And Sci-Fiction writers have been partying a lot ever since.

I asked one of the resident "experts" here if he thought Jacob's Ladder was a wormhole and got some vague reply, so I just dropped it.

 

[SkyWriting]

...Faith cannot be used, as all religions have faith that their's is the one true god.
Praying cannot be used, as all religions pray to their version of god.
Personal experience cannot be used, as most religious people have personal experience that their god is real...

I have Faith that you will understand me and that you are actually a real person. - So you must disqualify any answer.
My answering would require my praying first. - So you must disqualify any answer.
And this forum qualifies as a personal experience between the two of us - So you must disqualify any answer.

Plus your question requires belief in
Satan,
God,
NIV,
Corruption of Creation,
ability to know right from wrong,
All these are parts of my faith...so your question disqualifies itself.

 

[AV1611VET]

All these are parts of my faith...so your question disqualifies itself.

These people want us to provide enough data for our belief that it can be what they call 'falsifiable'.

Why? in my opinion?

So they can falsify it, of course.

But God is much smarter than that.

His miracles cannot be falsified, as they aren't channeled through science.

 

[SkyWriting]

Or do you have a copy of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, that has been cobbled and ad hoc'd like the rest of us?

The word is primarily used to refer to the four canonical gospels: the Gospel of Matthew, Gospel of Mark, Gospel of Luke and Gospel of John, probably written between AD 65 and 110.

 

[ExistenceUnknown]

I think Einstein proposed the wormhole which would result in distances traveled faster than the speed of light. And Sci-Fiction writers have been partying a lot ever since.

The Einstein-Rosen bridge is a mere hypothesis. If it crosses the realm of hypothesis then it will be celebrated. As for your second comment, I have added emphasis

 

[super animator]

Dose any one read the tags that this thread has?
creationism burn, creationist ad hoc, creationists rape goats, diabolical plagarism, dis place misses modding, i'll show you a floater, team? huh., torpedo ye arke, what about the fossils?

 

[Tomatoman]

His miracles cannot be falsified, as they aren't channeled through science

In fact so carefully hidden are these miracles that we have no evidence that they actually occurred.

 

[ExistenceUnknown]

These people want us to provide enough data for our belief that it can be what they call 'falsifiable'.

Why? in my opinion?

So they can falsify it, of course.

But God is much smarter than that.

His miracles cannot be falsified, as they aren't channeled through science.

No, no, no you misunderstand me. I am not trying to scientifically falsify your deity. I am merely interested in how you come to your conclusions.

The fact remains. Catholics think they are right by the same standards you think you are right. Muslims think they are right by the same standards you think you are right. How then is it that you are right and they are wrong?

 

[ExistenceUnknown]

I have Faith that you will understand me and that you are actually a real person. - So you must disqualify any answer.
My answering would require my praying first. - So you must disqualify any answer.
And this forum qualifies as a personal experience between the two of us - So you must disqualify any answer.

Plus your question requires belief in
Satan,
God,
NIV,
Corruption of Creation,
ability to know right from wrong,
All these are parts of my faith...so your question disqualifies itself.

You are avoiding the meat of my question. Perhaps it's not even possible to answer the question without using the methods I asked you to exclude. In which case my conclusion is that it is impossible for any religion to know for 100% that the god they worship is the correct God.

If your answer is Faith, then just say Faith.

 

[SkyWriting]

... I didn't encounter this opposition to evolution or fundamentalism, even in my family who lived in rural Mexico, until I arrived to the US.

20% to 60% reject evolution theory. It's easy to hang with any particular group your whole life and not know about the rest.

 

[SkyWriting]

You are avoiding the meat of my question. Perhaps it's not even possible to answer the question without using the methods I asked you to exclude. In which case my conclusion is that it is impossible for any religion to know for 100% that the god they worship is the correct God.

If your answer is Faith, then just say Faith.

Yes. Your question requires Faith and so is disqualified.

 

[JustMeSee]

Reality can take a hike as far as He is concerned.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am merely interested in how you come to your conclusions.

The number one reason is the Word of God.

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

The fact remains. Catholics think they are right by the same standards you think you are right.

No comment.

Muslims think they are right by the same standards you think you are right.

No comment.

 

[AV1611VET]

Reality can take a hike as far as He is concerned.

Correct.

 

[Tomatoman]

AV:

Originally Posted by ExistenceUnknown

Muslims think they are right by the same standards you think you are right.
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No comment.

Come now, AV, surely some comment is required. Otherwise we might assume you have no better reason for supposing you are right than muslims do. And then you will have admitted that your theological position is based on nothing more than blind faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV:


Come now, AV, surely some comment is required. Otherwise we might assume you have no better reason for supposing you are right than muslims do. And then you will have admitted that your theological position is based on nothing more than blind faith.

My position on how the Bible pwns the Koran is well-known, isn't it?

 

[Nathan Poe]

My position on how the Bible pwns the Koran is well-known, isn't it?

Indeed -- it used to provide endless luls before it became tedious.