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'I felt violated': Tesla owner repeatedly harassed for owning Cybertruck

Some people frustrated with Elon Musk and his involvement in the federal government are taking out their frustrations on his company Tesla.​
In turn, some Tesla owners, like David Koeshall, are receiving hate from others for their vehicles.​
Koeshall's Cybertruck was parked outside of La Brioche True Food on University Avenue in Madison. In a video captured by the truck's built-in cameras, a man rode his bike up next to the truck, stopped, and spit on it.​
"It was disturbing," said Koeshall. "I felt violated, maybe a little threatened."​
Koeshall said he was prompted to turn on the Cybertruck's cameras after receiving a note on his windshield prior to the spitting incident.​
The note read 'Nice Elon Truck, Loser."​
"I thought if someone's going to come at me and touch my truck and leave a note, then maybe I should have the cameras to record who it is," said Koeshall.​
 
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'I felt violated': Tesla owner repeatedly harassed for owning Cybertruck

Some people frustrated with Elon Musk and his involvement in the federal government are taking out their frustrations on his company Tesla.​
In turn, some Tesla owners, like David Koeshall, are receiving hate from others for their vehicles.​
Koeshall's Cybertruck was parked outside of La Brioche True Food on University Avenue in Madison. In a video captured by the truck's built-in cameras, a man rode his bike up next to the truck, stopped, and spit on it.​
"It was disturbing," said Koeshall. "I felt violated, maybe a little threatened."​
Koeshall said he was prompted to turn on the Cybertruck's cameras after receiving a note on his windshield prior to the spitting incident.​
The note read 'Nice Elon Truck, Loser."​
"I thought if someone's going to come at me and touch my truck and leave a note, then maybe I should have the cameras to record who it is," said Koeshall.​
The tolerant left in action again
 
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Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Isaac Asimov

Somehow I doubt that vandalism is the kind of violence that Asimov was speaking of.

Musks is bringing pain and suffering on tens of thousands of Americans, and threatening many more, all outside of constitutional law, I don't think outrage against symbols of his corporate power is so hard to understand.
 

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“And now she can rot where all those who betray their oaths do. Traitor got what she deserved.”
The kind, compassionate words of the left
I'm quite unsure who this "the left" is, but do go on.
 
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I'm quite unsure who this "the left" is, but do go on.
I've seen similar vitriol expressed about Babbitt usually by those whose political views lean to the left, it's beyond the pale
 
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'I felt violated': Tesla owner repeatedly harassed for owning Cybertruck

Some people frustrated with Elon Musk and his involvement in the federal government are taking out their frustrations on his company Tesla.​
In turn, some Tesla owners, like David Koeshall, are receiving hate from others for their vehicles.​
Koeshall's Cybertruck was parked outside of La Brioche True Food on University Avenue in Madison. In a video captured by the truck's built-in cameras, a man rode his bike up next to the truck, stopped, and spit on it.​
"It was disturbing," said Koeshall. "I felt violated, maybe a little threatened."​
Koeshall said he was prompted to turn on the Cybertruck's cameras after receiving a note on his windshield prior to the spitting incident.​
The note read 'Nice Elon Truck, Loser."​
"I thought if someone's going to come at me and touch my truck and leave a note, then maybe I should have the cameras to record who it is," said Koeshall.​

No individual in America or any other democracy should live in fear of retaliation for whom they vote, what they buy, or how they support their political party. In a democracy, particularly in America—which has been an exemplar of democratic principles—such incidents should not occur.

It is unfortunate that today in America, violence and bullying—whether online or in real life—are often considered acceptable if they align with one's political ideology. However, when such actions are carried out by the opposing side, they are deemed despicable and unlawful. When individuals cannot justify their side's actions, they frequently resort to whataboutism.

If someone disagrees with the practices of Elon Musk, they can choose not to purchase products from his companies. Similarly, if someone disapproves of Jeff Bezos' actions, they can decide not to subscribe to Amazon Prime. However, individuals have no legal right to stop others for exercising their choice to buy products they prefer, regardless of who is selling them.

Political attacks have existed since the beginning of our republic. However, there is a consensus that the situation is deteriorating with each passing year and election. Both sides recognize that politics is becoming increasingly negative, but unfortunately, there is a tendency to blame the other side.

In 2009, President Obama criticized a police officer, calling him "stupid" without knowing all the details. He later apologized and held a "beer summit" with the officer and Dr. Gates. The American Right condemned Obama for bullying a citizen, while the Left argued he was addressing broader societal issues.

On another occasion, President Obama made a negative remark about participants of the Special Olympics. The American Right criticized President Obama for this comment, arguing that the President should not make jokes about individuals with disabilities. Conversely, some supporters of President Obama on the American Left suggested that it was just a joke and questioned why it was taken so seriously.

By 2015, the situation had deteriorated. Candidate Trump referred to sitting U.S. Senators as "Little Marco" or "Lyin' Ted". His supporters argued that this was simply Trump's manner of speaking and suggested that those who disapproved should accept it as his style of communication.

During President Trump's first term, comedian Kathy Griffin controversially held up an offensive image of him. Conservatives rightfully condemned Griffin's actions, while some on the left attempted to justify them through "whataboutism."

During his first term, President Trump frequently criticized private citizens, including Fortune 500 CEOs, politicians, and journalists. The left expressed outrage, while the right defended him as a straight talker.

Our behavior has consequences, especially for political leaders, celebrities, elected officials, and journalists. One example of this is when President Trump criticized private citizen Ruby Freeman. As a result, Ruby and her daughter had to move from their home due to receiving death threats.

Violence and bullying have no place in our society, yet we often justify these behaviors when they come from our side while condemning them from others. We know what is right and wrong but tend to ignore it when it suits us.

To move beyond political deterioration and restore civility in politics, it is essential to condemn violence and inappropriate behavior, regardless of the perpetrator.

May be we should take a lesson from the sermon on the mount and practice it in our everyday lives

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
 
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Has anyone wondered (except me of course) how much of the type of juvenile behaviour on both sides would stop if it was never posted on social media or used to bolster sales for media stations? Kinda the ignore bad behaviour of a toddler philosophy.

Boy, do I miss the days of no mass social media.
 
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I've seen similar vitriol expressed about Babbitt usually by those whose political views lean to the left, it's beyond the pale
I do not think so. As someone who's taken a military oath, similar to hers, what she did was the betrayal of that oath she took. I don't take that lightly, nor look favourably on those who betray theirs.
 
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Somehow I doubt that vandalism is the kind of violence that Asimov was speaking of.

Musks is bringing pain and suffering on tens of thousands of Americans, and threatening many more, all outside of constitutional law, I don't think outrage against symbols of his corporate power is so hard to understand.
That's one of many doomsday predictions made by certain people. They constantly come up with them. They came up with numerous ones about all of the awful things that were going to happen from 2017 to 2021, which never took place of course.
 
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That's one of many doomsday predictions made by certain people. They constantly come up with them. They came up with numerous ones about all of the awful things that were going to happen from 2017 to 2021, which never took place of course.

It's not a doomsday prediction. It's just what's happening right now. The stock market is crashing, people are losing their jobs and Musk is looking to cut more government services to the most needy members of society. That's not hysteria, because Musk himself has made it clear what he intends to do.
 
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It's not a doomsday prediction. It's just what's happening right now. The stock market is crashing, people are losing their jobs and Musk is looking to cut more government services to the most needy members of society. That's not hysteria, because Musk himself has made it clear what he intends to do.
The stock market crashed in 2022. People are loosing jobs because a poorly run government hired too many people. What services to the most needy did Musk say he was going to cut. What's the exact quote from him that you're talking about?
 
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The stock market crashed in 2022. People are loosing jobs because a poorly run government hired too many people. What services to the most needy did Musk say he was going to cut. What's the exact quote from him that you're talking about?

Musk has said that "entitlement spending", eg, Social Security, needs to be cut. He's also described it as a Ponzi scheme, which is incorrect and demonstrate how he doesn't understand how it works. Social Security is a trust fund and doesn't count against the deficit.

In this interview, he says things that are factually incorrect, and amounts to "Great Replacement" conspiracy nonsense. He claims, falsely, that illegal immigrants receive Social Security and Democrats use that to essentially buy their votes. That's all lies. Social Security is a trust fund used to cover basic expenses for the disabled and the elderly. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for social security.


On Joe Rogan, Musk has made it clear that he views Social Security as just a Ponzi scheme, ignorant of how Social Security actually works:

 
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Musk has said that "entitlement spending", eg, Social Security, needs to be cut. He's also described it as a Ponzi scheme, which is incorrect and demonstrate how he doesn't understand how it works. Social Security is a trust fund and doesn't count against the deficit.

In this interview, he says things that are factually incorrect, and amounts to "Great Replacement" conspiracy nonsense. He claims, falsely, that illegal immigrants receive Social Security and Democrats use that to essentially buy their votes. That's all lies. Social Security is a trust fund used to cover basic expenses for the disabled and the elderly. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for social security.


On Joe Rogan, Musk has made it clear that he views Social Security as just a Ponzi scheme, ignorant of how Social Security actually works:

He's obviously talking about cutting Social Security being mishandled in it being payed out to illegal immigrants and people that are over 120 years old ie dead etc. The Ponzi scheme he's talking about is the waste and fraud going on and how those paying into Social Security are getting ripped off because of it. What you're tuning into is taking a small snippet of what all Musk said, and then a partisan spin is put on it. Have you listened to the entire interview to hear everything Musk had to say in it, to go by where he's really at? Or are you only listening to partisan interpretations of it?

Go to 3:00 in this interview to hear what Musk has to say about Social Security. He's not out to destroy it. He's trying to fix it.

 
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