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Why are you still hanging on to the insurrection narrative?

Why are you reading the Washington Examiner? I use the term insurrection because it more recognized than the term Seditious Conspiracy, which carries a prison term twice that of insurrection and which several members of the evil rioters were convicted of.
 
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Chauvin did not plead guilty to murder. You may need to reevaluate your sources.
Talk to the DOJ.

On Dec. 15, 2021, Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to violating a federal criminal civil rights statute on two separate occasions. First, Chauvin pleaded guilty to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer, resulting in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death. In the plea documents, Chauvin agreed that the sentencing for this crime should be based on the sentence for second-degree murder because he acted willfully and in callous and wanton disregard of the consequences to Mr. Floyd’s life.
 
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Talk to the DOJ.

On Dec. 15, 2021, Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to violating a federal criminal civil rights statute on two separate occasions. First, Chauvin pleaded guilty to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer, resulting in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death. In the plea documents, Chauvin agreed that the sentencing for this crime should be based on the sentence for second-degree murder because he acted willfully and in callous and wanton disregard of the consequences to Mr. Floyd’s life.
Did Chauvin plead guilty to murder? No, he didn't. So please take your strawman elsewhere. By the way, you sould probably start reading the Washington Examiner. It is more accurate than whatever you are reading now.
 
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Did Chauvin plead guilty to murder?
Yes.

No, he didn't. So please take your strawman elsewhere. By the way, you sould probably start reading the Washington Examiner. It is more accurate than whatever you are reading now.
The Examiner is a bad source but definitely leans, editorially, to the right. What I gave you was from the DOJ and not from a news paper.
 
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Why are you reading the Washington Examiner? I use the term insurrection because it more recognized than the term Seditious Conspiracy, which carries a prison term twice that of insurrection and which several members of the evil rioters were convicted of.
So, you reject the Washington Examiner article? Do you only trust sources that lean to the left? Other sources confirmed the same thing. No insurrection. The J6 riot was
not coordinated.




House.gov has an article as well.

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So, you reject the Washington Examiner article?
No, the Examiner said the FBI didn't find evidence of insurrection. I showed that there evidence for Seditious Conspiracy,BS more serious crime.
Do you only trust sources that lean to the left?
No, just as I don't trust sources that lean to the right. Both skew evidence to make their side look good.
Other sources confirmed the same thing. No insurrection. The J6 riot was
not coordinated.
What matters is what the Courts found. They found several members of the riots guilty of Seditious Conspiracy. Which means that it was coordination.

Seditious Conspiracy:
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

 
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No. Otherwise, show me the recipes.
On Dec. 15, 2021, Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to violating a federal criminal civil rights statute on two separate occasions. First, Chauvin pleaded guilty to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer, resulting in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death. (In the plea documents, Chauvin agreed that the sentencing for this crime should be based on the sentence for second-degree murder) because he acted willfully and in callous and wanton disregard of the consequences to Mr. Floyd’s life.

 
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On Dec. 15, 2021, Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to violating a federal criminal civil rights statute on two separate occasions. First, Chauvin pleaded guilty to willfully depriving Mr. Floyd of his constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer, resulting in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death. (In the plea documents, Chauvin agreed that the sentencing for this crime should be based on the sentence for second-degree murder) because he acted willfully and in callous and wanton disregard of the consequences to Mr. Floyd’s life.

No, the Examiner said the FBI didn't find evidence of insurrection. I showed that there evidence for Seditious Conspiracy,BS more serious crime.
I didn't ask if Chauvin confessed to civil rights crimes. I asserted that he dd not confess to murder. If you think I am wrong, then why was there a trial. Why? Because he did not confess to murder. So please, try again.
 
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No, the Examiner said the FBI didn't find evidence of insurrection. I showed that there evidence for Seditious Conspiracy,BS more serious crime.

No, just as I don't trust sources that lean to the right. Both skew evidence to make their side look good.

What matters is what the Courts found. They found several members of the riots guilty of Seditious Conspiracy. Which means that it was coordination.

Seditious Conspiracy:
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Several members of the riots were guilty of seditious conspiracy yet only the leader of the proud boys is facing 22 years in prison? Not only do I not trust sources that lean to left but I also don't trust a weaponized DOJ that leans to the left either. I'm just not buying what you are selling and never will.
 
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I didn't ask if Chauvin confessed to civil rights crimes. I asserted that he dd not confess to murder.
I will say that you're right. I don't know why the DOJ says that he pleaded guilty but other sources show that he was found guilty of 2nd degree murder by a jury. But, he committed murder.
 
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Several members of the riots were guilty of seditious conspiracy yet only the leader of the proud boys is facing 22 years in prison?
The leader should get the most time. The others that confessed or were found guilty got long terms, about 18 years.


Not only do I not trust sources that lean to left but I also don't trust a weaponized DOJ that leans to the left either.
I know what you mean, especially since those you claim that lean to the left were actually ran by Republicans. Now, we have a weaponized DOJ, CIA, FBI, etc.. all with a far right lean, loyal to Trump and not the US Constitution.
 
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The leader should get the most time. The others that confessed or were found guilty got long terms, about 18 years.

I know what you mean, especially since those you claim that lean to the left were actually ran by Republicans. Now, we have a weaponized DOJ, CIA, FBI, etc.. all with a far right lean, loyal to Trump and not the US Constitution.
Tarrio was found guilty of seditious conspiracy by a jury in Washington, D.C., alongside three other leaders of the Proud Boys. The others were each sentenced to between 15 and 18 years. What about the rest of the rioters? BTW: A jury in Washington DC? Enough said. Those Proud Boy leaders did not stand a chance.

Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio sentenced to 22 years for Jan. 6 attack

 
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This statement below from the conversations section at the bottom of the Fox News article says it all.

"The USA can no longer claim to be even a functioning democracy let alone the greatest example of democracy in the world. Any objective observer cannot deny that the current administration has weaponized the justice system in order to persecute their political opponents.

They have clearly turned the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights, on it's head by doing exactly what it says not to do.
The Constitution specifically warns against searching for a crime to fit a person instead of searching for a person that committed a crime and in doing so, using the justice system to exact revenge instead of justice. Then by putting these cases in front of a prosecution friendly judge, in a dem friendly constituency with a hand picked jury they are sure that the fix is in.

I sincerely hope that either the USSC overturns this injustice or the next sitting POTUS pardons them all and in doing so restores at least some faith in the US Justice system."


SO IT'S NOT JUST ME. :clap:
 
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Tarrio was found guilty of seditious conspiracy by a jury in Washington, D.C., alongside three other leaders of the Proud Boys. The others were each sentenced to between 15 and 18 years. What about the rest of the rioters? BTW: A jury in Washington DC? Enough said. Those Proud Boy leaders did not stand a chance.

Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio sentenced to 22 years for Jan. 6 attack

Tarrio got what he deserved. It's sad that Trump kissed up to his racist buddies and pardoned him. He got a fair trial.
 
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