Tell 5 reasons why your way is good

[agua]

I love it !

I think you think it means what you think I don't think it means.

Welcome back Mr Eudamonist nice to see you again. I hope we may chat soon, again.

 

[quatona]

Ad hominem.

No. It´s clearly addressing what "you say", and not about who or what you are.

People think that by being subtle ( suggesting a person is flawed because he thinks he's never wrong.) they may ad hominem attack unnoticed.

You mean, when people address what you say you can always insinuate that they actually want to attack your character?

It's a simple and subtle tactic debaters use when frustrated. Nice attempt at feigned injury though, I give you 3 out of 10

I will give you 6 points if you manage to spot the fallacies in this your post. (Apart from the fact that your own posts are full of ad hominems - if applying your misunderstanding of that term).

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Left to my own devices I fail. Sometimes smart atheists forget to factor in the human capacity for error.

 

[quatona]

Left to my own devices I fail. Sometimes smart atheists forget to factor in the human capacity for error.

I´m not quite sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
Personally, I am fully aware of (the capacity for) errors.
Errors are a means of learning.
Since the OP question is not about final results but about the way I don´t feel that errors made are an argument against a particular way.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Left to my own devices I fail. Sometimes smart atheists forget to factor in the human capacity for error.

Capacity for error is not the same thing as predestined overall failure. People can succeed at life while failing many times over. The key, I think, is to learn from one's mistakes and to keep on trying.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[JackofSpades]

Capacity for error is not the same thing as predestined overall failure. People can succeed at life while failing many times over. The key, I think, is to learn from one's mistakes and to keep on trying.

To believe that making errors equals failure in life, means failure in finding a good life philoshophy.

 

[Paradoxum]

Reason number one is that it's not limited to things inside my head, there have been some degree of physical phenomenons too.

Such as?

Reason number two, which is actually for me the more important one is that it's really about paradigm. After losing faith in secularism, so to speak, it just makes more sense in every way to explain some things spiritually, even if that explanation might be very vague.

Why did you lose faith in secularism?

(Not that that's what secularism means).

 

[Paradoxum]

This sorta makes any discussion about Yahweh's character problematic, I think. The point I was attempting to address was what you believed Yahweh's character was while you believed ( if you did ).

No problem; I understand it will be difficult to remember what you once thought Yahweh's characteristics were, since you now believe He doesn't exist.

It was a number of years ago, and my beliefs changed over that time away.

I thought he was loving but just at one point... so I once defence God commanding mass and unfair killingin the OT.

 

[JackofSpades]

Why did you lose faith in secularism?

Too many gods and spirits in my life to ignore them. I feel that my life makes more sense if I don't limit my explanations to what can be proven scientifically. I think there is more to life than just that side.

 

[agua]

It was a number of years ago, and my beliefs changed over that time away.

I thought he was loving but just at one point... so I once defence God commanding mass and unfair killingin the OT.

Ok no worries. I won't press further into this subject at this stage; thanks for the tidbit.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

What I mean is secularism fails me. I cant do well, can't hold down a job, family, freiends etc in that context. Or in other words "my way" in an individualistic humanistic society, fails me too.

Id rather be lost than a loser.

Maybe I have to "sacrifice my rationality" (grovel grovel), but my brand of secularsm left me disabled, go figure...

Ill not be Richard Dawkins ransom sacrifice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9no7poYZz0

 

[Wryetui]

Too many gods and spirits in my life to ignore them. I feel that my life makes more sense if I don't limit my explanations to what can be proven scientifically. I think there is more to life than just that side.

I agree upon this. Secularism and atheism loses their point when you face something that cannot be explain in naturalistic or materialistic terms The so called miracles I am talking about are a thing here.

 

[Ophiolite]

I'm a Christian. I don't need five ways to show it is good, because it is the one way.

The astounding humility of some Christians gets me every time.

 

[Messy]

I have no reasons because my way isn't good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ry-84bbCIE

 

[JackofSpades]

(Not that that's what secularism means).

Yeah sorry, that was bad term. "Scientific materialism" would possibly have been the correct term in that case.

English is not my first language so I mess up with terms fairly often when I go in direct translation - mode.

 

[quatona]

I agree upon this. Secularism and atheism loses their point when you face something that cannot be explain in naturalistic or materialistic terms The so called miracles I am talking about are a thing here.

One thing I have never understood:
We all are very demanding when it comes to scientific, natural explanations: We want to be given evidence of the causalities, the mechanisms etc.etc. before we allow a theory to have explanatory power.
Yet, once there is a phenomenon for which such an explanation is not (yet?) available, some people suddenly suspend all these demands and standards and accept a mere "God did it" as satisfactory response - as though it had any explanatory power.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I agree upon this. Secularism and atheism loses their point when you face something that cannot be explain in naturalistic or materialistic terms The so called miracles I am talking about are a thing here.

If you cannot explain something, then you cannot explain it. In what way does that justify invoking the supernatural and making pretence to knowledge?

 

[True Scotsman]

I agree upon this. Secularism and atheism loses their point when you face something that cannot be explain in naturalistic or materialistic terms The so called miracles I am talking about are a thing here.

Where is it written that we must have an explanation for everything or we "lose our point". When one uses reason exclusively, one will never know more than a tiny fraction of what's out there to know but what one knows, one knows.

 

[Wryetui]

Have you seen a dead men, in a state of putrefaction, moving? Have you ever heard where you lived a sound from the graveyard, went there, and see a coffin dripping water and mud, from inside it? Can you explain why I have seen a person with deformed legs because of gonarthrosis, praying in fron of the Theotokos icon, and then having their legs corrected right before your eyes?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Have you seen a dead men, in a state of putrefaction, moving? Have you ever heard where you lived a sound from the graveyard, went there, and see a coffin dripping water and mud, from inside it? Can you explain why I have seen a person with deformed legs because of gonarthrosis, praying in fron of the Theotokos icon, and then having their legs corrected right before your eyes?

Without knowing any further details, no, I can't explain that. Can you?