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Catholics in general are/should be particular, as the Douay-Rheims is the approved English translationGoodness! You Mohylite Catholics are particular, aren't you?
Catholics in general are/should be particular, as the Douay-Rheims is the approved English translation
Catholics in general are/should be particular, as the Douay-Rheims is the approved English translation
Those who do not use the Douay-Rheims risk the absence of full enlightenment on the Scriptures; to use any translation not based solely on the Vulgate is not understanding the Catholic Scriptures, but only understanding the interpolation of it by after-the-fact scholars.Archdiocese of Mohileff
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Read my contra Atkin on this here: RSV Bible (#1) and here RSV Bible (#2)Uncomfortable Facts about the Douay-Rheims
Following the forced conversion of England to Protestantism and the subsequent persecution and martyrdom of Catholics in that country, many Englishmen fled to t...www.catholic.com
The Bible is the Motor Manual of life.Likewise I am strict Douay-Rheims only, but that does not mean that our understanding is limited.
Those who do not use the Douay-Rheims risk the absence of full enlightenment on the Scriptures; to use any translation not based solely on the Vulgate is not understanding the Catholic Scriptures, but only understanding the interpolation of it by after-the-fact scholars.
Read my contra Atkin on this here: RSV Bible (#1) and here RSV Bible (#2)
No it isn't.The motion of satellites is explained by acknowledging that the universe rotates around a stationary Earth; satellites do not 'orbit' the Earth in the heliocentric sense but are carried by the dynamic framework of the rotating universe.
The standard orbital mechanics equations (all of them) do not include any terms about the universe spinning. You might understand that if you'd ever seen one.Just use standard orbital mechanics equations to account for the relative motion of objects within a universe revolving around the Earth, but note that the centripetal force required is supplied by the effects of the universe's rotation, not by the Earth's gravitational pull alone
It might not be the worst idea to stop discussing real things with teenagers with Reality Denial Syndrome.Id stop and recognize your use of the appeal to authority fallacy before saying anything more, and frame it in a respectful, Christian way.
A fantastic response! From "show the formula" to "nuh uh."No it isn't.
Just as an example, NASA understands that both orbital mechanics models are equivalent, mathematically and geometrically. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory employs the Earth-Centered Inertial frame (ECI) for probes sent out near the Earth (as does NASA and the GPS), but, according to Ruyong Wang and Ronald Hatch, two former government satellite engineers, “the Jet Propulsion Lab…because of historical reasons, does the entire computation in the ECI frame.”The standard orbital mechanics equations (all of them) do not include any terms about the universe spinning. You might understand that if you'd ever seen one.
So you're appealing to my age as an excuse? That is very childish for someone who taught astronomy, especially when you are speaking to a person decades younger than you.It might not be the worst idea to stop discussing real things with teenagers with Reality Denial Syndrome.
I have shown you respect, though it seems you are the one who needs to be told "other people know things you don't", since you seem to immediately dismiss any idea contrary to yours, and dismissed my beliefs based solely on my age. Sad. Have respect for those around you, even if they disagree with you.As for respect, if you'd show some, you might get some. Other people know things you don't.
No, that is not what Mohylite Catholicism is. Good find, though!So, in your personal Christian identity, is the following article below relevant to what you've termed as "Mohylite Catholicism"? Or is your identification emerging from some other movement in Catholicism?
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You claim those expressions exist. Prove it! Post some equations or stop making claims contrary to standard understandings of things.The motion of satellites is explained by acknowledging that the universe rotates around a stationary Earth; satellites do not 'orbit' the Earth in the heliocentric sense but are carried by the dynamic framework of the rotating universe.
Just use standard orbital mechanics equations to account for the relative motion of objects within a universe revolving around the Earth, but note that the centripetal force required is supplied by the effects of the universe's rotation, not by the Earth's gravitational pull alone
I'm not a Christian and I will not pretend to be one.Id stop and recognize your use of the appeal to authority fallacy before saying anything more, and frame it in a respectful, Christian way.
And that Adam spoke the same English as the King James Bible was written in.What do you say to those Christians such as @AV1611VET who are strict King James only?
Apologies if this is poorly worded, but:You claim those expressions exist. Prove it! Post some equations or stop making claims contrary to standard understandings of things.
Hoyle admits that the stars affect what occurs in our Sun-Earth system, which is not hard to understand since, in his system, the sun is revolving around the Milky Way at a speed of about 500,000 miles per hour (which is about eight times faster than he believes the Earth is revolving around the sun). If the sun must travel so fast in order to equal the Milky Way’s pull toward the center, then it can be safely said that the mass of stars at the core of the galaxy have a great effect on the sun, and in turn, a great effect on the planets going around the sun. Hoyle, for simplicity’s sake, confined his example to “a star…moderately close to the solar system,” but in reality, there are billions of stars in the universe; and each one, however small, has an effect on our sun-Earth system. As such, the stars must be strategically placed in the universe in order to allow the proper balance of forces to be maintained in the sun-Earth system. No doubt this is implied in such Scriptural passages as Psalm 147:4 [146:4]: “He determines the number of the stars, he gives to all of them their names,” or Isaiah 40:26: “Lift up your eyes on high and see who has created these stars. He who brings out their host by number, He calls them all by name; by the greatness of His might, and by the strength of his power, not one is missing.”"Consider the well-known Newtonian equation: mass x acceleration = force. The mass for any particular body is intended to be always the same, independent of where the body is situated or of how it is moving. Suppose we describe the position of a body as a function of time in some given reference frame, and suppose we know the mass. Then, provided we also have explicit knowledge of the force acting on the body, Newton’s equation gives us its acceleration. Determining the motion from there on is simply a mathematical problem – in technical terms we have to integrate the above equation. This procedure, which forms the basis of Newtonian mechanics, fails unless we know the force explicitly. In the Newtonian theory of the planetary motions, the theory leading to the basic ellipse from which we worked in Chapter IV, the force is taken to be given by the well-known inverse law: Two masses, m₁ and m₂ , distance r apart, attract each other with a forcewhere G is a numerical constant. The force is directed along the line joining the bodies. Now comes the critical question: In what frame of reference is this law considered to operate? In the solar system we cannot consider the inverse-square law to operate both in the situation in which the Sun is taken as the center and in that in which the Earth is taken as the center, because Newton’s equation would then lead to contradictory results. We should find a planet following a different orbit according to which center we chose, and a body cannot follow two paths (at any rate not in classical physics). It follows that in order to use the inverse-square law in a constructive way we must make a definite choice of center. The situation which now emerges is that to obtain results that agree with observation we must choose the Sun as the center. If the Earth were chosen instead, some law of force other than the inverse-square law would be needed to give motion that agreed with observation. Although in the nineteenth century this argument was believed to be a satisfactory justification of the heliocentric theory, one found causes for disquiet if one looked into it a little more carefully. When we seek to improve on the accuracy of calculation by including mutual gravitational interactions between planets, we find – again in order to calculate correctly – that the center of the solar system must be placed at an abstract point known as the “center of mass,” which is displaced quite appreciably from the center of the Sun. And if we imagine a star to pass moderately close to the solar system, in order to calculate the perturbing effect correctly, again using the inverse-square rule, it could be essential to use a “center of mass” which included the star. The “center” in this case would lie even farther away from the center of the Sun. It appears, then, that the “center” to be used for any set of bodies depends on the way in which the local system is considered to be isolated from the universe as a whole. If a new body is added to the set from outside, or if a body is taken away, the “center” changes." (Hoyle, Nicolaus Copernicus: An Essay on His Life and Work, p. 83-85.)
Well, ill be the first to call out that this is a terrible mentality: You MUST balance the fluids, its the standard understanding! Nothing else could be right! (but, it wasn't right, was it?)Post some equations or stop making claims contrary to standard understandings of things.
That you don't know the difference between reference frames and "the universe rotates" illustrates your unfamiliarity with these topics.A fantastic response! From "show the formula" to "nuh uh."
Just as an example, NASA understands that both orbital mechanics models are equivalent, mathematically and geometrically. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory employs the Earth-Centered Inertial frame (ECI) for probes sent out near the Earth (as does NASA and the GPS), but, according to Ruyong Wang and Ronald Hatch, two former government satellite engineers, “the Jet Propulsion Lab…because of historical reasons, does the entire computation in the ECI frame.”
Your position is nonsense, as I already stated.Also, I don't know if your trying to defame my position with rude comments, but you lost the argument once you began to undermine the person behind the position, not the position itself.
No, I think you should grow up and realize you know almost nothing. It is true of most 18 year olds.So you're appealing to my age as an excuse? That is very childish for someone who taught astronomy, especially when you are speaking to a person decades younger than you.
I have shown you respect, though it seems you are the one who needs to be told "other people know things you don't", since you seem to immediately dismiss any idea contrary to yours, and dismissed my beliefs based solely on my age. Sad. Have respect for those around you, even if they disagree with you.
You can believe my position is nonsense, but why are you appealing to my age? It is not necessary, if my position is nonsense, then no personal comments need to be made to dismiss it, it should be readily apparent. I apologize if I sounded defensive, but would you do me the courtesy to apologize as well?Your position is nonsense, as I already stated.
No, I think you should grow up and realize you know almost nothing. It is true of most 18 year olds.
Who wrote this?Hoyle admits that the stars affect what occurs in our Sun-Earth system, which is not hard to understand since, in his system, the sun is revolving around the Milky Way at a speed of about 500,000 miles per hour (which is about eight times faster than he believes the Earth is revolving around the sun). If the sun must travel so fast in order to equal the Milky Way’s pull toward the center, then it can be safely said that the mass of stars at the core of the galaxy have a great effect on the sun, and in turn, a great effect on the planets going around the sun. Hoyle, for simplicity’s sake, confined his example to “a star…moderately close to the solar system,” but in reality, there are billions of stars in the universe; and each one, however small, has an effect on our sun-Earth system. As such, the stars must be strategically placed in the universe in order to allow the proper balance of forces to be maintained in the sun-Earth system. No doubt this is implied in such Scriptural passages as Psalm 147:4 [146:4]: “He determines the number of the stars, he gives to all of them their names,” or Isaiah 40:26: “Lift up your eyes on high and see who has created these stars. He who brings out their host by number, He calls them all by name; by the greatness of His might, and by the strength of his power, not one is missing.”
We can draw two more points from the foregoing information. First, since the stars produce forces affecting our sun-Earth system, then it would be logical to conclude that the forces we experience in our locale are, in part, a product of the conglomeration of stellar forces acting upon us. This means that such things as the inverse-square law, centrifugal force, Coriolis force, and any other force or momentum we calculate on Earth must in part be a result of the forces surrounding us from the universe. As Misner, Thorne and Wheeler have stated it: “Mass there governs inertia here” (Gravitation, pp. 543, 546-47, 549. That is, the mass of the stars governs inertia on Earth). For example, although the inverse-square law is normally understood as being the ratio of the mass to the distance of two or more local objects (e.g., sun and Earth), in reality, the formulaimplicitly includes the mass, force, and distance of all the universe’s stars, as well as the objects in the immediate locale under consideration. A simple way to understand this is: if the universe did not have stars, then would be inaccurate and need to be revised. As Hoyle has noted, even one close star can affect the “center of mass” in our sun-Earth system, thus it is just a matter of understanding the effect of the billions of stars in the universe and applying it to the phenomena of gravity and inertia.
Consequently, modern science is unable to refute the proposition that formulais a product of both the local and the non-local systems due to the fact that it is not been able to explain the cause of gravity. Although the components of appear as if the force of gravity is merely a ratio of mass to distance of the local bodies, since modern science has no explanation for what actually causes gravity and can only tell us that the force increases or decreases depending on mass and distance, it is at a loss to discount the rest of the universe as being an integral part of what causes the increase or decrease of the gravitational force. For example, the two local bodies may merely be disturbances in a sea of gravitational force emanating from the remote regions of the universe that we, in turn, conveniently measure by the formula and which modern science, without knowing any differently, attributes only to the interaction between the two bodies in our local system.
Another facet of the principle that Hoyle brings out regarding the “center of mass” (also known as a “barycenter”) and how it is affected by the stars is that, since, as we stipulated, the stars are precisely numbered and strategically placed in the universe (which coincides with the fact that, according to Genesis 1:1-2, the Earth was the first strategically placed object in the universe), then it follows that this precise alignment of the stars would be in a counterbalancing formation against our sun and planets, situated in such a way as to make Earth the immovable barycenter of the universe. Accordingly, such passages as Job 26:9 [26:7]: “He…hangs the Earth upon nothing,” which indicates that the Earth is suspended in space and not supported in any sense by any other celestial body, would be precisely the case if the Earth were the “center of mass” for the universe. If a hole could be dug to the center of the Earth, the above circumstance would be analogous to placing a baseball at the center where it would be suspended weightless and motionless. Yet gyroscopic laws show that any force that attempts to move the barycenter will be resisted by the entire system, and analogously the Earth will resist any force against it with the help of the entire universe. Just as a small gyroscope will keep a huge oil tanker afloat across the ocean without swaying, so the universe in rotation does the same with the center of mass, the Earth (Charles W. Misner, Kip S. Thorne and John A. Wheeler, Gravitation, New York: W. H. Freeman, 1973, pp. 1117-1119. Misner, et al, already stated much earlier in their book that the CMB had the precise form and intensity expected if Earth were the centerpiece of a blackbody cavity (Gravitation, pp. 764-797). The logical conclusion should have been that the Earth is in the center of the universe and the universe is closed).
Anaximander (d. 547 B.C.) held to the same idea: “The Earth…is held up by nothing, but remains stationary owing to the fact that it is equally distant from all other things” (As obtained from Aristotle’s De Caelo, 295b32, cited in Popper’s Conjectures and Refutations, p. 138. Anaximander, however, understood the Earth to be in the shape of a drum rather than a globe).
Does it matter? Could you respond to #2,321?Who wrote this?
It does matter. I see no point in wasting my time with a point by point refutation to someone that is just block quoting it. Block quotes do not require understanding to make.Does it matter?
I will consider it.Could you respond to #2,321?
That first equation can be derived from mv^2/r, using v = rw, hence m(rw)^2/r = mw^2r, which is actually the "centrifugal" force as implied by the subscript, but missing the factor 1/2, and is directed perpendicular to the surface.The rotation imparts forces to objects near the Earth, analogous to the Coriolis (, where m is the satellite’s mass, ωᵤ is the angular velocity of the universe, and r is the radial distance from the Earth’s center) and centrifugal ( , where vᵣ is the radial velocity of the satellite) effects experienced in a rotating reference frame.
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