Sweden Raises the Age of Retirement to Pay for Migrant Welfare.

[Terminal_Marxicity]

Propably barbecue accidents.

#LastNightInSwedenRussiansHackedMyBBQGrill

 

[Jimmy D]

Mmmm, this thread reminds me of something.....

"By the late 1930s, the increasingly fanatical tone of Nazi propaganda reflected the growing radicalisation of the regime's anti-Semitic policies. The Jewish stereotypes shown in such propaganda served to reinforce anxieties about modern developments in political and economic life, without bothering to question the reality of the Jewish role in German society."

 

[Terminal_Marxicity]

Mmmm, this thread reminds me of something.....

"By the late 1930s, the increasingly fanatical tone of Nazi propaganda reflected the growing radicalisation of the regime's anti-Semitic policies. The Jewish stereotypes shown in such propaganda served to reinforce anxieties about modern developments in political and economic life, without bothering to question the reality of the Jewish role in German society."

Hey, made it all the way to second page before our first Godwin. Color me pleasantly surprised.

 

[Jimmy D]

Hey, made it all the way to second page before our first Godwin. Color me pleasantly surprised.

Don't mention it.

I think that when we've got right-wing bigots doing their best to demonize a section of society it's a relevant parallel to draw.

 

[brinny]

Oh dear... I've just seen your list of "Mohammedan" sex crimes link.

Firstly, they're Muslims, not mohammedan. They're also human - and as liable to breaking the law as anyone from our own countries. The overwealming majority of Muslims are kind and peace loving people. I work with 3 of them, and have a good Muslim friend. So yes, I know this first hand.

Might be worth posting a list of "Christian" criminals for comparison.

Would you prefer "Islamists"?

 

[Terminal_Marxicity]

Don't mention it.

I think that when we've got right-wing bigots doing their best to demonize a section of society it's a relevant parallel to draw.

It might be more helpful to make a relevant counter argument incorporating facts, evidence, reason, logic, etc.

But in absence of any of those, scream Nazi and moralize.

 

[Jimmy D]

It might be more helpful to make a relevant counter argument incorporating facts, evidence, reason, logic, etc.

But in absence of any of those, scream Nazi and moralize.

Why would you change your mind?

I've already seen how you dismiss any European posters who try to explain to you that you are misrepresenting the situation in their own countries.

You carry on chief, you're entitled to your views.

 

[DW1980]

Would you prefer "Islamists"?

Actually yes. Don't forget that there are "Christian" terrorists too, and we like to keep our distance from them. Just as Muslims decry violence committed by islamists.

 

[brinny]

Actually yes. Don't forget that there are "Christian" terrorists too, and we like to keep our distance from them. Just as Muslims decry violence committed by islamists.

"Christian" terrorists, eh?

Chopping off heads and putting women in steel cages and setting them on fire in these steel cages for not being the Islamists "sex slaves", are they?

And how about the female FGM, eh?

That happening too?

Pray tell, where are these "Christian" terrorists?

 

[KCfromNC]

Would you prefer "Islamists"?

Guess we have to add Christianityists to the list in addition to Jesusedan.

 

[DW1980]

It might be more helpful to make a relevant counter argument incorporating facts, evidence, reason, logic, etc.

But in absence of any of those, scream Nazi and moralize.

Can I make a suggestion? Rather than pointing at Europe, consider how we see the US? I'm deliberately exaggerating and stereotyping - to make a point. Please take this as tongue in cheek. The Americans I've met so far have been lovely people. (Just to be clear!)

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You have a population that seems obsessed with having guns, yet cannot fathom why you have so many mass shootings and gun crime. You execute so many people that you're right up there with Iran, China and Saudi Arabia. You have a president who seems hell bent on bizzare policies. The wall for example, or retweeting far right propaganda (Britain First). You have a government insisting on repealing legislation that provides millions of your citizens of healthcare - and a working policy whereby the average American is lucky to get 10 days holiday a year, but the legal minimum is 0 and far weaker workers rights than most western countries.

So maybe before telling Europe what's wrong, put your own house in order?
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Do you see how easy it is to take what might be perfectly valid criticism and use it to stereotype a whole nation? Just as easy with Muslims, or any other group. And just as wrong.

 

[Terminal_Marxicity]

Guess we have to add Christianityists to the list in addition to Jesusedan.

These are serious issues. Would you like to discuss them seriously?

 

[Terminal_Marxicity]

Can I make a suggestion? Rather than pointing at Europe, consider how we see the US? I'm deliberately exaggerating and stereotyping - to make a point. Please take this as tongue in cheek. The Americans I've met so far have been lovely people. (Just to be clear!)

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You have a population that seems obsessed with having guns, yet cannot fathom why you have so many mass shootings and gun crime. You execute so many people that you're right up there with Iran, China and Saudi Arabia. You have a president who seems hell bent on bizzare policies. The wall for example, or retweeting far right propaganda (Britain First). You have a government insisting on repealing legislation that provides millions of your citizens of healthcare - and a working policy whereby the average American is lucky to get 10 days holiday a year, but the legal minimum is 0 and far weaker workers rights than most western countries.

So maybe before telling Europe what's wrong, put your own house in order?
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Do you see how easy it is to take what might be perfectly valid criticism and use it to stereotype a whole nation? Just as easy with Muslims, or any other group. And just as wrong.

Not trying to tell you what to do so much as point to you as an example to learn from so we don't make the same mistakes. Yes, we have issues. Adding muslims to the mix only makes things more volatile.

 

[DW1980]

"Christian" terrorists, eh?

Chopping off heads and putting women in steel cages and setting them on fire in these steel cages for not being the Islamists "sex slaves", are they?

And how about the female FGM, eh?

That happening too?

Pray tell, where are these "Christian" terrorists?

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia

 

[brinny]

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia

Thank you for the link.

However would you be so kind as to address what i posted to you, in your own words.

I would most appreciate it.

Thank you kindly.

 

[DW1980]

Not trying to tell you what to do so much as point to you as an example to learn from so we don't make the same mistakes. Yes, we have issues. Adding muslims to the mix only makes things more volatile.

I just think you're missing the point, the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people. They're not the problem. Don't get me wrong, Islam is not good, it's an affront to God. So our response should be to reach out to them.

 

[brinny]

I just think you're missing the point, the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people. They're not the problem. Don't get me wrong, Islam is not good, it's an affront to God. So our response should be to reach out to them.

Our response, should of course, include defending those in harm's way from Islamists, don't you agree?

It is written in the book of Isaiah (amongst other books in the Bible), isn't it?

 

[Terminal_Marxicity]

I just think you're missing the point, the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people. They're not the problem. Don't get me wrong, Islam is not good, it's an affront to God. So our response should be to reach out to them.

Outside of sheer repetition, what reason do you have to believe most muslims are inherently peaceful people?

 

[KCfromNC]

These are serious issues. Would you like to discuss them seriously?

I tried. You never explained why the title of your OP doesn't seem to be supported by any of the sources you mention in the OP itself. That's not the actions of someone looking for a serious discussion.

 

[KCfromNC]

Outside of sheer repetition, what reason do you have to believe most muslims are inherently peaceful people?

For me, it is the fact that there are a billion and a half of them and no world wars currently being waged by a horde of them. You know, silly facts like that.