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Suicide is a sin that cannot be forgiven?

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Correct, suicide is indeed an unpardonable sin. One of God's 10 commandments is that we should not kill *EXODUS 20:13. This includes ourselves. When we sin or break God's commandments when we are alive we can always seek God in repentance and forgiveness for our sins as we have faith in God's WORD. You cannot do this once you have killed yourself.

We are not our own we are brought with a price.

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17
[16], Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? [17], If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

SO Jesus' Blood is not strong enough to cleanse us for all unrighteousness and sin? It is too weak to cover our own murder?

What if you forget to confess a sin from last tuesday... then we are doomed?....

What if we said a bad word while driving and get in an accident and died... then we are doomed?

Sounds like we are saying Jesus life, death and resurrection was worth little.

Please provide a bible verse that says suicide is unpardonable. The bible is clear on what makes someone damnable.
 
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Actually Jesus said no one can snatch them (His sheep) from my hand. This doesn’t mean that a person can’t lose their salvation. If someone willingly turns away from God they are not being snatched out of His hand. They’ve basically jumped to their own death. The parable is explaining that no outside force can take away our salvation but we can surely choose to turn away from God at anytime we choose. That would be spiritual suicide which will not be forgiven unless the person repents before it’s too late. Either before they die or before judgement day comes.

I don’t believe someone can lose their salvation. Second, suicide is often an act of desperation committed by someone whose mind is sick. The mind becomes ill. Just like the body.

Depression can make a person feel abandoned by God. So in this scenario it is not a person waking away from God, but a person believing God does not care about them which may appear to an outsider as walking away.

I believe God understands mental illness. I really don’t feel like going over my position on this again. Take a look at some of my posts in this thread if you want a more in depth answer.
 
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There is a difference between worldly sorrow and Godly sorrow.
2 Corinthians 7:10
"Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death."

Scripture never attributes Judas as someone who dies with Godly sorrow (Acts 1:15-25).
In fact it's quite the opposite, Judas is ascribed as someone who due to his wickedness, is now getting what he deserved ... "left to go where he belongs.” …aka hell.


In Hell there grew a Judas Tree
Where Judas hanged and died
Because he could not bear to see
His master crucified
Our Lord descended into Hell
And found his Judas there
For ever haning on the tree
Grown from his own despair
So Jesus cut his Judas down
And took him in his arms
"It was for this I came" he said
"And not to do you harm
My Father gave me twelve good men
And all of them I kept
Though one betrayed and one denied
Some fled and others slept
In three days' time I must return
To make the others glad
But first I had to come to Hell
And share the death you had
My tree will grow in place of yours
Its roots lie here as well
There is no final victory
Without this soul from Hell"
So when we all condemned him
As of every traitor worst
Remember that of all his men
Our Lord forgave him first

D. Ruth Etchells
 
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GOD'S 6TH COMMANDMENT

EXODUS 20:13. Thou shalt not kill.

Breaking any of God's commandments is sin *JAMES 2:10-11. The wages of sin is death ROMANS 6:23. How are you going to seek God's forgiveness for the sin of killing yourself once you have died?

We are not our own we are brought with a price.

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17
[16], Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? [17], If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

Where does the Bible say only confessed sins are forgiven? If a Christian is in a car crash and his last word is a curse word said in fear and he dies. Is he condemned to the lake of fire?
 
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I don’t believe someone can lose their salvation. Second, suicide is often an act of desperation committed by someone whose mind is sick. The mind becomes ill. Just like the body.

I believe God understands this. I really don’t feel like going over my position on this again. Take a look at some of my posts in this thread if you want a more in depth answer.

Bless you friend. Can you please explain your interpretation of John 15:1-10?
 
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I don’t believe someone can lose their salvation. Second, suicide is often an act of desperation committed by someone whose mind is sick. The mind becomes ill. Just like the body.

Depression can make a person feel abandoned by God. So in this scenario it is not a person waking away from God, but a person believing God does not care about them which may appear to an outsider as walking away.

I believe God understands mental illness. I really don’t feel like going over my position on this again. Take a look at some of my posts in this thread if you want a more in depth answer.

I agree with you that suicide is not an unforgivable sin. There is only one unforgivable sin and it is not suicide. Jesus said all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven except to sin against the Holy Spirit which is to live without ever having come to Christ.
 
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Bless you friend. Can you please explain your interpretation of John 15:1-10?

Someone else can. I don’t feel up to it. You can’t lose something that you can’t earn.

I am so glad I don’t subscribe to the belief one can lose their salvation. I rest in Christ and His finished work. Period.
 
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Someone else can. I don’t feel up to it. You can’t lose something that you can’t earn.

I am so glad I don’t subscribe to the belief one can lose their salvation. I rest in Christ and His finished work. Period.

Just please consider these verses friend. It’s not about works or earning salvation. It’s about devotion to God. God bless
 
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Just please consider these verses friend. It’s not about works or earning salvation. It’s about devotion to God. God bless

God will not abandon someone because they aren’t devoted enough. It’s about what He did. Not anything we do.

Thank you for being kind in your message.
 
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God will not abandon someone because they aren’t devoted enough. It’s about what He did. Not anything we do.

Thank you for being kind in your message.

I know there’s way too much attacking going on here. I don’t want to play into that kind of behavior. ;)
 
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When the Las Vegas shooting happened and all those people were killed many of them died having just committed a sin without the chance to confess it.

We are constantly committing sins in our life. But as followers of Christ having been saved and asking to be covered by Jesus blood our sins do not keep us out of heaven. We are to confess our sins daily and repent to live God honoring lives, but if we die before confessing our sins of the day it does not mean we are no longer saved. We are covered by the blood of Jesus and our names are in the Lambs book of Life regardless.

Sin is sin no greater than each other. So if I die having just lied, or killing myself it is still sin against God. But it will be forgiven because I am His child.

John 10:29
29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
 
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Actually Jesus said no one can snatch them (His sheep) from my hand. This doesn’t mean that a person can’t lose their salvation.

His sheep are His sheep and he will not lose one. The true sheep will stay in the flock. Examine yourselves. Finish the good race. Yes, those are the true sheep.

Goats are not much different. Our goats know where they belong and exactly who they belong to.

Different terms are used for similar groupings in other species; in the case of birds, for example, the word is flocking, but flock may also be used, in certain instances, for mammals, particularly sheep or goats.

M-Bob
 
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Sorry if I have not responded to everyone here if you have posted to me. If you would like to PM me happy to talk about it further if you would like to continue the discussion. This is the last one for me. As I believe I have done my duty of LOVE and provided scripture to show that suicide is indeed sin and an unpardonable sin at that. Repeating these scriptures I believe will not change the opinions of others here so is not in anyones interest.
SO Jesus' Blood is not strong enough to cleanse us for all unrighteousness and sin? It is too weak to cover our own murder?
Why would you think that when God's WORD says..

1 JOHN 1:9 [9], If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

PROVERBS 28:13 [13], He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whosoever confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy.

How are you going to confess your sins after you have killed yourself?
What if you forget to confess a sin from last tuesday... then we are doomed?....What if we said a bad word while driving and get in an accident and died... then we are doomed?
Your talking hypertheticals. Since we were not there and only Jesus knows the heart, let him be the judge. There is no free passes for sin however and for all those who knowingly practice it without seeking God in repentance, confesssion and forgiveness through faith. *HEBREWS 10:26-27
Sounds like we are saying Jesus life, death and resurrection was worth little.
Not at all. Where have I said any such thing? God's WORD makes it very clear however that those who continue in KNOWN unrepentant sin do not enter the kingdom of heaven neither do they know God *1 JOHN 2:3-4; HEBREWS 10:26-27; ROMANS 2:12-13; HEBREWS 6:4-8. There is no free passes for sin. The wages of sin is death to all those who reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.
Please provide a bible verse that says suicide is unpardonable. The bible is clear on what makes someone damnable.

Ok...

EXODUS 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. [6TH COMMANDMENT of the 10 COMMANDMENTS]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17 [16], Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? [17], If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

If you kill yourself how are you going to seek God's forgiveness once your dead?

Now please show me a scripture that says suicide is not a sin and can be forgiven?

God bless all...
 
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His sheep are His sheep and he will not lose one. The true sheep will stay in the flock. Examine yourselves. Finish the good race. Yes, those are the true sheep.

Goats are not much different. Our goats know where they belong and exactly who they belong to.

Different terms are used for similar groupings in other species; in the case of birds, for example, the word is flocking, but flock may also be used, in certain instances, for mammals, particularly sheep or goats.

M-Bob

I agree to an extent. That’s basically like saying those who are written in the book of life will never be blotted out. I completely agree. But who really knows who is written in the book of life? When I say a person can lose their salvation I mean a person could be on the right path to salvation but veer off course or turn away from God completely and that person will not be saved just because he believes or he was baptized or he once walked in the Spirit. We must abide and endure to the end to be victorious. Would you agree brother Bob?
 
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Of course suicide is an unforgiveable sin. How can you seek God's forgiveness once you have killed yourself when one of the 10 commandments is thou shalt not kill

Those who are in Jesus are forgiven past present future sin.
 
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Sorry if I have not responded to everyone here if you have posted to me. If you would like to PM me happy to talk about it further if you would like to continue the discussion. This is the last one for me. As I believe I have done my duty of LOVE and provided scripture to show that suicide is indeed sin and an unpardonable sin at that. Repeating these scriptures I believe will not change the opinions of others here so is not in anyones interest.

Why would you think that when God's WORD says..

1 JOHN 1:9 [9], If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

PROVERBS 28:13 [13], He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whosoever confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy.

How are you going to confess your sins after you have killed yourself?

Your talking hypertheticals. Since we were not there and only Jesus knows the heart, let him be the judge. There is no free passes for sin however and for all those who knowingly practice it without seeking God in repentance, confesssion and forgiveness through faith. *HEBREWS 10:26-27

Not at all. Where have I said any such thing? God's WORD makes it very clear however that those who continue in KNOWN unrepentant sin do not enter the kingdom of heaven neither do they know God *1 JOHN 2:3-4; HEBREWS 10:26-27; ROMANS 2:12-13; HEBREWS 6:4-8. There is no free passes for sin. The wages of sin is death to all those who reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.


Ok...

EXODUS 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. [6TH COMMANDMENT of the 10 COMMANDMENTS]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17 [16], Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? [17], If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

If you kill yourself how are you going to seek God's forgiveness once your dead?

Now please show me a scripture that says suicide is not a sin and can be forgiven?

God bless all...

Where do the scriptures say unconfessed sins will not be forgiven?
 
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Where does the Bible say only confessed sins are forgiven? If a Christian is in a car crash and his last word is a curse word said in fear and he dies. Is he condemned to the lake of fire?

That is exactly what I said :)
 
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