Strongs 776 erets VS Strongs 127 adamah

[joshua 1 9]

In the Bible we have two words in Hebrew: "erets" & "adamah". You can look these Hebrew words up in either of the following Bibles. So you can look at all the verses that use these words. Also we want to consider the Hebrew word "Adam". In Gen 6:13 we are told that God is going to destroy man with the earth. Now we assume that the man God is going to destroy is Adam and his descendants from the Garden of Eden. There is mention about the breath of life. Again this is a reference to Adam in the Garden of Eden. Man was destroyed because of his wickedness, corruption and violence.

Some people have a conflict with Genesis chapter six and modern science. I do not believe there is a conflict between modern science and the Bible. Or in this case the flood of Noah that we read about in Genesis chapter 6. Modern science and even the theory of evolution helps us to understand the Bible and we can understand the message God has for us in the story we read from Moses about Noah and the flood that Noah and his family survived.

Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth H776 is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. H776

Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, H776 to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth H776 shall die.

Gen 6:5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, H776 and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, H776 and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:11The earth H776 also was corrupt before God, and the earth H776 was filled with violence.

Strong's Hebrew: 120. אָדָם (adam) -- man, mankind

Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

Strong's Hebrew: 127. אֲדָמָה (adamah) -- ground, land
Strong's Hebrew: 776. אָ֫רֶץ (erets) -- earth, land

 

[AV1611VET]

In the Bible we have two words in Hebrew: "erets" & "adamah".

Funny ... I don't see them.

I see them in Strong's Concordance, but I don't see them in the Bible.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Funny ... I don't see them.

I see them in Strong's Concordance, but I don't see them in the Bible.

YOU do not have a copy of the Hebrew Bible? I gave you the links to two different reference Bibles online. The Blue Letter and Biblehub. The latter is filled with lots of different Bibles and references used to study and understand the Bible. We have lots of resources available to help us study our Bible. Also we have the computer so we can do a study very fast compared to having to look up information in books. Even Alexa can help a little but not much.

The nice thing about the concordance is we get all the passages that use the original word so we can look up the context to arrive at a better understanding of the word and how the word is used. There are some basic rules for how to understand and interpret the Bible. I am sure your pastor went to some sort of Bible school to learn how to be a pastor and he should be able to explain a lot of this to you if you have never been to any sort of a Bible college yourself. The nice thing about the Bible college I attended is that the students at the state college could take classes at the Bible college to forfill their electives. So it was very common for the students to go back and forth between the state college and the Bible college. Now more and more classes from the Bible college are offered on line for people that do not like to leave the house. Or there are classes on youtube that does not cost anything to watch on your computer.

The following is an example of a lecture at Yale University on Introduction to the Old Testament. Designed to teach the Bible to college students.

"This lecture provides an introduction to the literature of the Hebrew Bible and its structure and contents. Common misconceptions about the Bible are dispelled: the Bible is a library of books from diverse times and places rather than a single, unified book; biblical narratives contain complex themes and realistic characters and are not "pious parables" about saintly persons; the Bible is a literarily sophisticated narrative not for children; the Bible is an account of the odyssey of a people rather than a book of theology; and finally, the Bible was written by many human contributors with diverse perspectives and viewpoints."

 

[AV1611VET]

YOU do not have a copy of the Hebrew Bible?

No, I sure don't.

I gave you the links to two different reference Bibles online. The Blue Letter and Biblehub.

So?

The latter is filled with lots of different Bibles and references used to study and understand the Bible. We have lots of resources available to help us study our Bible. Also we have the computer so we can do a study very fast compared to having to look up information in books.

I'm not against Bible helps.

But when Bible helps replace the text of the Bible itself, then Bible helps can take a hike.

The nice thing about the concordance is we get all the passages that use the original word so we can look up the context to arrive at a better understanding of the word and how the word is used.

How do you know it's the original word?

Were you there, looking over the shoulders of the King James' translators?

There are some basic rules for how to understand and interpret the Bible. I am sure your pastor went to some sort of Bible school to learn how to be a pastor and he should be able to explain a lot of this to you if you have never been to any sort of a Bible college yourself.

My pastor has a Ph.D. in Theology, and a D.Div. in Divinity.

And yes, he references the Hebrew and Greek words every once in a while.

And I wish he would stop that, but it's not my place to dictate his style of preaching.

The nice thing about the Bible college I attended is that the students at the state college could take classes at the Bible college to forfill their electives. So it was very common for the students to go back and forth between the state college and the Bible college.

Are you bragging or complaining?

 

[joshua 1 9]

How do you know it's the original word?

The dead sea scrolls are the oldest copy we have of the Bible. This goes back almost 2,000 year before the King James Bible. The scribes had a procedure they followed that helped them to keep the Bible accurate and avoid any copy errors. In the 3500 year history of the Bible the KJV is fairly recent. As you know Moses did not write on clay tablets very often. Usually he used paper so we do not have any original going back to the time of Moses. Although if you can find the Ark of the Covenant that is said to contain two stone tablets with the ten commandments.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Were you there, looking over the shoulders of the King James' translators?

As I told you before, I am descended from the John Rogers that worked on the translation of the Bible before the King James people took over. So in a way I was there because my DNA was there. Or at least the original that my DNA was copied from.

Deuteronomy 7:9
"Know therefore that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God, who keeps His covenant and His loving kindness to a thousandth generation with those who love Him and keep His commandments;"

 

[joshua 1 9]

Are you bragging or complaining?

I attended the Bible college for two years and the state college for two years. That is not much to brag about. If your pastor has a Ph.D. in Theology, and a D.Div. in Divinity then I would consider that something to brag about.

 

[AV1611VET]

Although if you can find the Ark of the Covenant that is said to contain two stone tablets with the ten commandments.

Speaking of which, doesn't the "original Hebrew" have the Tabernacle being covered with antelope skins, instead of badger skins?

And the Israelites crossing the Sea of Reeds, not the Red Sea?

And the Israelites using bronze, instead of brass?

And don't 100% of scientists prefer the original Hebrew writings 2-to-1?

 

[AV1611VET]

As I told you before, I am descended from the John Rogers that worked on the translation of the Bible before the King James people took over. So in a way I was there because my DNA was there. Or at least the original that my DNA was copied from.

Were you also there when the Flood covered the whole earth?

If so, why do you prefer what scientists say about it being just a local one?

 

[AV1611VET]

I attended the Bible college for two years and the state college for two years. That is not much to brag about. If your pastor has a Ph.D. in Theology, and a D.Div. in Divinity then I would consider that something to brag about.

He asked me to stop calling him "doctor," and please refer to him as "pastor."

Something you'll NEVER hear a scientist say -- ever.

Scientists see the Bible as a pink slip.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Were you also there when the Flood covered the whole earth? If so, why do you prefer what scientists say about it being just a local one?

I have explained that many times. I believe that Noah's "world" was what we would call a bio diverse eco system. Not the whole bio sphere. This is a lot more consistent with what we read in the Bible and what we learn from the evidence that Science has gathered.

Proverebs 3 "19 The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens. 20 By His knowledge the deeps were broken up And the skies drip with dew."

God gives us wisdom, knowledge and understanding so we know the work He has done.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Were you also there when the Flood covered the whole earth?

So your point is that you were not there so you do not know? There are around 10,000 islands in the South Pacific. Each island has its own bio diverse eco system. From fossils that they find they can see that the bio diversity was establish many thousands of years ago. Long before Noah's flood. So Noah would have had to travel all over the world and pick up all the animals and then travel all over the world and take the animals back to where he got them.

There is no way all of the animals in all of the over the world traveled to Noah to get on his ark only to go back to where they came from after the flood was over. God provided that evidence for us for a reason.

We know that there are many Edens in this world. Not just the Eden we read about in the Bible. There was a Eden in the East where the main food is rice. In the middle east the main gain was wheat. In American the main grain was corn. None of this would indicate a world wide flood in the day of Noah. The evidence in the Bible simply does not support that interpretation.

 

[AV1611VET]

So your point is that you were not there so you do not know? There are around 10,000 islands in the South Pacific. Each island has its own bio diverse eco system. From fossils that they find they can see that the bio diversity was establish many thousands of years ago. Long before Noah's flood.

Before Noah's flood the earth consisted of a single landmass called "Eden."

You're buying into the lie of uniformitarianism"that scientists are feeding you.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Before Noah's flood the earth consisted of a single landmass called "Eden."

Actually you are right. Only our name today is the super continent Pangaea. Trying to explain that to the infidels though is petty much a lost cause. Noah's flood is a shadow and a type of what happened at Pangaea. That is why Moses wrote the story the way the story is written. There are at least four levels of meaning to the story. Literal, allegory, imaginative and metaphysical. That is why God is so amazing because He can work on so many levels at the same time. Yet man and his theory of evolution can only deal with two level at best if they can even do that. Of course quantum physics works on many levels at the same time. I am having a difficult time keeping up with my son because the classes they are taking at the university are so advanced.