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Yes, one can always say there are better ways to spend ones money. But I have spent a lot of money to learn things in my life and still do to this day. So personally, I think money spent to understand a topic or an issue is money well spent.

I think this money would be better spent on just learning how the opposite sex thinks instead of complaining because they don't think like you. Again, this requires that whoever actually spends some platonic time with the opposite sex just being friends and paying attention.

This is just "game playing" (not "research")...the same thing that Exit complains that all the ladies are doing to him.
 
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It took her 35 freakin days because she probably is a nice woman that doesn't like to hurt people and she's new to this since she is recently divorced. It probably took her awhile to know what to say or what to do. So when she finally realized she wasn't ready for sure, she emailed. But how many functions did you invite her to?
I invited her to 3 funtions in six weeks.The dance was on 3/17/2012. I called her on 3/18/2012,SEE? When she e-mailed me on 3/20/2012,she said that she was busy,that it was great meeting me, and that we could go out sometime in April. When she changed her mind after she left that dance on 3/17/2012,she could have told me that on 3/20/2012 when she first e-mailed me.

If I am not interested in a woman,I do the ADULT thing by letting her know right away,instead of stringing her along. One time I told one lady that I would appreciate it if she did not call me anymore. I did not wait six weeks to tell her that.

Sure,if she(the lady I met on 3/17/20) would have told me that she was divorced,and not ready to get into another relationship,I would have been dissapointed,BUT I would have understood. I just hate to keep waiting,waiting,and waiting until I get an answer. That time could have been spent doing something else.
 
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She forgave him because she already loved him. Your relationship obviously had not got to the point of love. (FYI: Women will do very stupid thing when they think they love someone.)
Hmmm...you used the word stupid and woman in the SAME sentance.Those are YOUR words and not mine. :)
 
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It took her 35 freakin days because she probably is a nice woman that doesn't like to hurt people and she's new to this since she is recently divorced. It probably took her awhile to know what to say or what to do. So when she finally realized she wasn't ready for sure, she emailed. But how many functions did you invite her to?
As far as a nice woman not wanting to hurt someone is concerned.

Here is an anlaogy for you. I was a phlebotomist in the U.S. Navy.Some patients,after I would draw their blood,would tell me that they did not feel anything,or that the needle stick did not hurt that much.
You see. Most of the nerve endings are in the skin.Therefore,the FASTER you go through the skin,the LESS pain a patient will feel.If you go in SLOWLY,the patient will feel MORE pain.

Now,if a woman is not interested in me,and she tells me "NO THANKS",it will hurt,but it will be FAST,QUICK, and LESS painful. BUT,if she gives me her number anyway,hoping that I will "get the hint" in about three weeks, without returning my calls and my e-mails,it would be as if she took a big,20 gauge hypodermic needle,and stuck the needle into my arm
V-V-VERY S-S-SLOWLY!, OUCH!!!! :(

I hope that I made myself perfectly clear.:)
 
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As far as a nice woman not wanting to hurt someone is concerned.

Here is an anlaogy for you. I was a phlebotomist in the U.S. Navy.Some patients,after I would draw their blood,would tell me that they did not feel anything,or that the needle stick did not hurt that much.
You see. Most of the nerve endings are in the skin.Therefore,the FASTER you go through the skin,the LESS pain a patient will feel.If you go in SLOWLY,the patient will feel MORE pain.

Now,if a woman is not interested in me,and she tells me "NO THANKS",it will hurt,but it will be FAST,QUICK, and LESS painful. BUT,if she gives me her number anyway,hoping that I will "get the hint" in about three weeks, without returning my calls and my e-mails,it would be as if she took a big,20 gauge hypodermic needle,and stuck the needle into my arm
V-V-VERY S-S-SLOWLY!, OUCH!!!! :(

I hope that I made myself perfectly clear.:)

You are wanting all the women you meet to think like you do and get offended when they don't. Life doesn't work that way.

This lady acted like most women do. She didn't want to reject you or turn you down directly so she turned you down several times in a row hoping you'd get the hint...and you did.

(However, honestly, based on what you said, I think it took her a while to decide that she wasn't ready to date. What she said about 'not now but maybe in April' makes me think at that time she still might have had some interest but was fighting her own demons about if she was ready.)

PS...sometimes blood sticks hurt because they don't go in exactly where they are supposed to and no amount of speed or lack of it will help. If you don't want it to hurt at all, then stay away from needles.
 
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As far as a nice woman not wanting to hurt someone is concerned.

Here is an anlaogy for you. I was a phlebotomist in the U.S. Navy.Some patients,after I would draw their blood,would tell me that they did not feel anything,or that the needle stick did not hurt that much.
You see. Most of the nerve endings are in the skin.Therefore,the FASTER you go through the skin,the LESS pain a patient will feel.If you go in SLOWLY,the patient will feel MORE pain.

Now,if a woman is not interested in me,and she tells me "NO THANKS",it will hurt,but it will be FAST,QUICK, and LESS painful. BUT,if she gives me her number anyway,hoping that I will "get the hint" in about three weeks, without returning my calls and my e-mails,it would be as if she took a big,20 gauge hypodermic needle,and stuck the needle into my arm
V-V-VERY S-S-SLOWLY!, OUCH!!!! :(

I hope that I made myself perfectly clear.:)

Yeah you made yourself clear alright. Clear in the sense that only you are right (even though we know women better than you because we are women). It's not the woman's fault that your emotions jumped right in and got yourself hurt. Plus you didn't answer my question regarding what was in the email you sent her? Dodgeball much? :wave:
 
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You are wanting all the women you meet to think like you do and get offended when they don't. Life doesn't work that way.

This lady acted like most women do. She didn't want to reject you or turn you down directly so she turned you down several times in a row hoping you'd get the hint...and you did.

(However, honestly, based on what you said, I think it took her a while to decide that she wasn't ready to date. What she said about 'not now but maybe in April' makes me think at that time she still might have had some interest but was fighting her own demons about if she was ready.)

PS...sometimes blood sticks hurt because they don't go in exactly where they are supposed to and no amount of speed or lack of it will help. If you don't want it to hurt at all, then stay away from needles.

Hey,That is what I did for a living.Therefore,I KNOW what I am talking about. That as if I were to argue with an engineer,about how to build a bridge,when I do not have a degree in engineering. Therefore,I know about phlebotomy more than the average person does.
Besides,when it comes to rejections,most guys want the rejection to be quick,as to get it over with as soon as possible.

This reminds of the Tee Shirt that says" Please to me NO,BEFORE,I spend $10 bucks on drinks." :)
 
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Yeah you made yourself clear alright. Clear in the sense that only you are right (even though we know women better than you because we are women). It's not the woman's fault that your emotions jumped right in and got yourself hurt. Plus you didn't answer my question regarding what was in the email you sent her? Dodgeball much? :wave:
Dodgeball? No,I am just taking the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. :)
 
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Hey,That is what I did for a living.Therefore,I KNOW what I am talking about. That as if I were to argue with an engineer,about how to build a bridge,when I do not have a degree in engineering. Therefore,I know about phlebotomy more than the average person does.
Besides,when it comes to rejections,most guys want the rejection to be quick,as to get it over with as soon as possible.

This reminds of the Tee Shirt that says" Please to me NO,BEFORE,I spend $10 bucks on drinks." :)


Well, my expertise on this particular subject comes from sitting the donation chair to the total of giving a couple gallons of blood over the years. I always watch because I find it helps minimize the pain if I know when to expect it and can forcibly relax. However, the skill of the phlebotomist plays in to the pain issue a lot more than the speed of the stick.

(Add into this the fact that my engineering degree is BIOengineering...studying how the body functions as an engineering model...I might be able to weigh in on the bridge a bit too though.)

As for the ladies...do you really think you are so special that a woman should be able to take a look at you and talk to you a few minutes in a group session and KNOW that she want to spend the rest of her life with you? ... sometimes it takes some thought and spending a bit of time with someone to decide that they don't think you are a match.

And to be honest, we girls talk. If you have yourself a reputation, she might be interested until she talks to a friend. If you blew off a friend once, you may be dead in the water...even of someone who actually was interested.

(She turned you down 3 times...and you feel led on? Really?)
 
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Well, my expertise on this particular subject comes from sitting the donation chair to the total of giving a couple gallons of blood over the years. I always watch because I find it helps minimize the pain if I know when to expect it and can forcibly relax. However, the skill of the phlebotomist plays in to the pain issue a lot more than the speed of the stick.

(Add into this the fact that my engineering degree is BIOengineering...studying how the body functions as an engineering model...I might be able to weigh in on the bridge a bit too though.)

As for the ladies...do you really think you are so special that a woman should be able to take a look at you and talk to you a few minutes in a group session and KNOW that she want to spend the rest of her life with you? ... sometimes it takes some thought and spending a bit of time with someone to decide that they don't think you are a match.

And to be honest, we girls talk. If you have yourself a reputation, she might be interested until she talks to a friend. If you blew off a friend once, you may be dead in the water...even of someone who actually was interested.

(She turned you down 3 times...and you feel led on? Really?)
Well,ALL of the women,whom I came in contact with at those dances,have been treated well by me. Even this one very heavy set woman,who is not my type,once asked me to dance. I did not turn my nose up at her. I danced with her. I did not turn her down. I have been a complete gemtleman to ALL of the ladies there. I have been going to those dances for about five years.
 
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Good...then you should be good here.

And always be nice to the outgoing big ladies because for some reason they tend to have the most female friends...and tend to be very opinionated and willing to tell anyone. Just a FYI. <wink>

Thanks a whole lot for the info. I will definately keep that in mind,and pass it on to a male friend of mine.

He has never been married,nor had a girlfriend,and he is 45 years old. He tells me that he always avoid talking to heavy set women. He is angry with the fact,that at one time,while pointing to a heavy set woman;some guy told him," M.....that is the ONLY kind of woman who is ever going to accept you.That is the best that you will ever get"(is a heavy set woman).
I reassured him that he is not destined to be with a certain type of woman, that he should not be afraid to ask ANY woman to dance,and to not take rejection personally.(on the dance floor)
 
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Wow exit, if only you could take your own advice and not take rejection personally IRL. :cool:
Again,Michelle,you fail to get my point. I CAN take rejection well,as long as it is QUICK and FAST!. When rejection is SLOW,THEN and only then,it is painful.
Do you remember that old line in the Western Movies?
The line went like this:

"We're going to kill you,Sheriff,and we're gonna kill you S-S-SLOW!"

For example,when a rancher has to put down a horse.The horse is shot in the head. It is far less painful than shooting the horse four times in the gut,allowing the horse to SLOWLY bleed to death.
 
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Again,Michelle,you fail to get my point. I CAN take rejection well,as long as it is QUICK and FAST!. When rejection is SLOW,THEN and only then,it is painful.
Do you remember that old line in the Western Movies?
The line went like this:

"We're going to kill you,Sheriff,and we're gonna kill you S-S-SLOW!"

For example,when a rancher has to put down a horse.The horse is shot in the head. It is far less painful than shooting the horse four times in the gut,allowing the horse to SLOWLY bleed to death.

That's what you say, but not what you do. Again, JMO, but if you're right then how's that workin for ya? :wave:I mean the last gal you asked her to what 3 functions? I personally would have got the "hint" after 2 turn downs, but that's just me, and then you get all mad about it and you don't really know or understand where the woman is coming from, furthermore IDK you care where she's coming from, you are most concerned with the fact that she let you simmer for 35 days (or was it 35 freakin days :D) so......and even after we tell you hey it might not be you, it might be her did you feel compassion for her and move on? nope instead you continued to rant about how you want to be rejected fast instead of slow. :doh:
 
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That's what you say, but not what you do. Again, JMO, but if you're right then how's that workin for ya? :wave:I mean the last gal you asked her to what 3 functions? I personally would have got the "hint" after 2 turn downs, but that's just me, and then you get all mad about it and you don't really know or understand where the woman is coming from, furthermore IDK you care where she's coming from, you are most concerned with the fact that she let you simmer for 35 days (or was it 35 freakin days :D) so......and even after we tell you hey it might not be you, it might be her did you feel compassion for her and move on? nope instead you continued to rant about how you want to be rejected fast instead of slow. :doh:

I have moved on.I have not called nor have I e-mailed her.If she had told me that she just got divorced and is "gun shy",I would have understood and would have left her alone. However,I am not a mind reader. Sometimes,women expect a man to read her mind. Life does not work that way.
If I still had that Michael Jackson albumn,I would have played that song,"She's Out of My Life.", maybe cried,and forgot about her.
All of my co-workers,females as well as males,whom I told about her, agreed with me. They all agreed that 40 to 50 year olds should have the guts to say what is on their minds.

It is interesting. I read that the average woman speaks about 25,000 words a day. The average man speaks about 15,000 words a day. IF a woman is SO much superior,verbally,than a man,why is it that it is SO hard for her to say just five words,out of the 25,000 words that she has in her arsenal? Those words are,"I'm NOT interested in you!"
They all agreed that doing something fast is far better than slowly,emotionally,torturing someone.
Did you,by any chance went to the Marquis De Sade School of Dating? :)

My point was,that I would rather be rejected fast by ANYBODY,not just her! I am an actor.I am used to rejection! After an audtition,they let us know within ONE week,if we got the part or not.We are not kept hanging for three weeks.
 
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Well I'm really not sure what you meant by your Marquis de Sade comment, but whatever. All we are trying to do is HELP you, but instead you read my response, throw out some obscure negative comment and argue that you are right. Even IF you are right, SO WHAT! And BTW there are plenty of men that tell women "I'll call you" and never do, so why don't THEY man up and let the woman know right off the bat? And in case you are wondering, that hasn't happened to me soo.....so you can continue to argue or say I don't get your point, or WHATEVER!
My advice is take it or leave it, I don't have a dog in this race (thankfully) but unless and until you change your behavior you will not find that woman you are looking for so....ball is in your court :wave:
 
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Well I'm really not sure what you meant by your Marquis de Sade comment, but whatever. All we are trying to do is HELP you, but instead you read my response, throw out some obscure negative comment and argue that you are right. Even IF you are right, SO WHAT! And BTW there are plenty of men that tell women "I'll call you" and never do, so why don't THEY man up and let the woman know right off the bat? And in case you are wondering, that hasn't happened to me soo.....so you can continue to argue or say I don't get your point, or WHATEVER!
My advice is take it or leave it, I don't have a dog in this race (thankfully) but unless and until you change your behavior you will not find that woman you are looking for so....ball is in your court :wave:
You are so right Michelle. A man,who is NOT interested in a woman,should not say that he will call her. He should MAN UP! He should TELL her that he is no longer interested in her.

We get the word "SADIST", which is a person who enjoys seeing a person in pain,or is one who enjoys inflicting pain on others,from the Count Marqius de SADE. We also get the word "SADISTIC",which describes someone who is a sadist. The Marquis De Sade tied women up and tortured them in France,during the 1800's
 
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