Stop sinning #2

[Behold]

All i am asking is if you sin? Do you?

There is no sin found in Christ.
There is no sin found in the "righteousness of God, in Christ", and there is no sin found in "the Gift of Righteousness"....So, i have all that, as all believers do, so, to have that is to be no longer under the dominion of the Law.
What do you think that means?
So, unless you understand all this, you can't understand why your question is not related to a born again Christian.
Learn something about Grace and then you won't be asking what isn't possible.

 

[pescador]

So, to be clear, yes or no, do you sin?

Why are you asking the same question multiple times?

Perhaps you haven't read Romans 8, 1-4: "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the life-giving Spirit in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, so that the righteous requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."

Is there something you don't understand about these words? I feel badly that you still believe in sin -> repentance -> sin -> repentance -> sin -> repentance ad infinitum.

 

[Lost4words]

There is no sin found in Christ.
There is no sin found in the "righteousness of God, in Christ", and there is no sin found in "the Gift of Righteousness"....So, i have all that, as all believers do, so, to have that is to be no longer under the dominion of the Law.
What do you think that means?
So, unless you understand all this, you can't understand why your question is not related to a born again Christian.
Learn something about Grace and then you won't be asking what isn't possible.

You cant say if you sin or not then?

I sin occasionally. I may curse, or have a bad thought, or gossip or offend etc etc etc etc...

When i do, i ask God to forgive me, i repent. I am sorrowful for my sin/s. I dont brush them away thinking its all taken care of my friend.

 

[Behold]

There is a false teaching in some churches that there is no debt for sin, and that Jesus paid it all back on the cross..

Read Colossians 2:13.

"All" sin is gone, its ALL been dealt with by the Cross".

You have been deceived into believing that you "clean yourself" by repenting.
Or that God "re-cleans" you, when you repent.
He does not.
The Cross is a one time sacrifice for the sin of the World.
Its an Eternal Redemption, that Jesus gained, that He accomplished.
Once it's applied, you are forever more made "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That is the "new Birth", the "new Creation IN CHRIST">
You have no idea about this, and are teaching self saving Legalism.
You are teaching self redemption, which denies the Cross and Rejects the Grace of God.

 

[Lost4words]

Why are you asking the same question multiple times?

Perhaps you haven't read Romans 8, 1-4: "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the life-giving Spirit in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, so that the righteous requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."

Is there something you don't understand about these words? I feel badly that you still believe in sin -> repentance -> sin -> repentance -> sin -> repentance ad infinitum.

Because, i am not getting a clear answer

 

[Behold]

You cant say if you sin or not then?

Read Colossians 2:13.

"All" sin is gone, its ALL been dealt with by the Cross".

You have been deceived into believing that you "clean yourself" by repenting.
Or that God "re-cleans" you, when you repent.
He does not.
The Cross is a one time sacrifice for the sin of the World.
Its an Eternal Redemption, that Jesus gained, that He accomplished.
Once it's applied, you are forever more made "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That is the "new Birth", the "new Creation IN CHRIST">
You have no idea about this, and are teaching self saving Legalism.
You are teaching self redemption, which denies the Cross and Rejects the Grace of God.

 

[Behold]

Because, i am not getting a clear answer

It just not clear to you.

 

[Lost4words]

Read Colossians 2:13.

"All" sin is gone, its ALL been dealt with by the Cross".

You have been deceived into believing that you "clean yourself" by repenting.
Or that God "re-cleans" you, when you repent.
He does not.
The Cross is a one time sacrifice for the sin of the World.
Its an Eternal Redemption, that Jesus gained, that He accomplished.
Once it's applied, you are forever more made "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That is the "new Birth", the "new Creation IN CHRIST">
You have no idea about this, and are teaching self saving Legalism.
You are teaching self redemption, which denies the Cross and Rejects the Grace of God.

Once saved, always saved is very much false.

We have to pick up our cross and follow Jesus my friend

 

[Lost4words]

It just not clear to you.

Its because you dont want to admit that we ALL sin

 

[pescador]

You cant say if you sin or not then?

I sin occasionally. I may curse, or have a bad thought, or gossip or offend etc etc etc etc...

When i do, i ask God to forgive me, i repent. I am sorrowful for my sin/s. I dont brush them away thinking its all taken care of my friend.

=> God has already forgiven you for your sins <= It has "already been taken care of" by Jesus' sacrifice. Why do you think that Jesus died if not to remove the penalty for sin?

 

[Lost4words]

=> God has already forgiven you for your sins <= It has "already been taken care of" by Jesus' sacrifice. Why do you think that Jesus died if not to remove the penalty for sin?

He died, yes, to save us from our sins. But, when we do sin, we have to repent, seek forgiveness and try our best not to sin again.

 

[Behold]

Once saved, always saved is very much false.

We have to pick up our cross and follow Jesus my friend

Jesus carried it already.
Trying to save yourself isn't going to work out for you in the end.

 

[Behold]

He died, yes, to save us from our sins. But, when we do sin, we have to repent, seek forgiveness and try our best not to sin again.

Your repenting isn't doing anything for your "sin".
All you are doing is solving your guilt trip.
Once you feel better, you think that God gave you peace.
He didn't.
He was always at Peace with you, if you are born again.
Romans 5:1

 

[pescador]

Once saved, always saved is very much false.

We have to pick up our cross and follow Jesus my friend

John 6, 38-40, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Is Jesus lying when He says that "I shall lose none of those He has given Me"?

 

[Lost4words]

Jesus carried it already.
Trying to save yourself isn't going to work out for you in the end.

He is carrying me while i carry my cross my friend.

 

[Lost4words]

Your repenting isn't doing anything for your "sin".
All you are doing is solving your guilt trip.
Once you feel better, you think that God gave you peace.
He didn't.
He was always at Peace with you, if you are born again.
Romans 5:1

God bless you

 

[Lost4words]

John 6, 38-40, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Is Jesus lying when He says that "I shall lose none of those He has given Me"?

Interpretation my friend. Interpretation.

God bless you

 

[Behold]

Interpretation my friend. Interpretation.

God bless you

Go here. :

Existing IN the Righteousness

 

[Lost4words]

Go here. :

Existing IN the Righteousness

I read it.

Its your interpretation.

I see things a bit differently.

 

[5thKingdom]

The Gospel is given, then "faith comes by HEARING and HEARING by the WORD OF GOD"... This is the Holy Spirit enlightening....and then if the person responds in FAITH, God then responds with SALVATION.

Faith is a GIFT of God.
It does not come from within a man like you pretend.
You teach a "BOASTER'S GOSPEL" that pretends that MAN
is sovereign (not God) and Man initiates salvation (not God)


Eph 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that [faith is] not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.


You are a "boaster" preaching a "BOASTER GOSPEL"
because you teach that faith comes from within a man
and God then SEES that good work and is OBLIGATED
to save the individual... that is the BROAD WAY that leads
to destruction.


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[5thKingdom]

if the person responds in FAITH, God then responds with SALVATION.

So you say that "WE HAVE TO GIVE HIM OUR FAITH"
You say that MAN initiates the salvation process,
that MAN is Sovereign in salvation.


But the Bible says that "faith" is not OURS... it is a GIFT OF GOD.
The Bible says GOD is Sovereign and GIVES FAITH to those who
He "chooses" or "elects"... not based on some "work" they do,
based ONLY on His Good Pleasure... and that is the ONLY way
to have saving FAITH... Who do we believe? You or the Bible?


Eph 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that [faith is] not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.


You are preaching the false "works gospel" called
the BOASTER'S GOSPEL.


The BOASTER'S GOSPEL says that MAN is Sovereign and
MAN initiates the salvation process by doing some good work.
(in your case the good work is to "GIVE HIM OUR FAITH")


And then, when God SEES what a good work that man has done
God is then obligated to save us. So MAN initiates the process
(Man is sovereign) and God is obligated to finish the process.


The BOASTER'S GOSPEL says "DO WHAT I DID TO BE SAVED"
If you just "do what I did" then God MUST save you from hell.
MEN have the power to MAKE God save them... just decide
to "do what I have done". And you will be saved.


Of course that is pure heresy.
And the Bible teaches no such thing.


The Bible is very clear, men are born DEAD and cannot save
themselves... any more that Lazarus could save himself.


Since the beginning of the church there have been TWO gospels.
The True Gospel teaches that all men are born spiritually DEAD
and they cannot seek God [Rom 3:10-12] NO MAN seeks God,
no, not even one.


(1) So God must "choose" or "elect" who He will have mercy on,
and (sometime during that person's life) God will "draw" that
man to Christ and Christ will lose NONE the Father gives Him.
John 6 teaches NO MAN can come to Christ unless the Father
first "draws" him and ALL MEN the Father draws "shall come"
and Jesus will lose NONE of "His Sheep". God is Sovereign.


(2) The second "works" gospel is the BOASTER'S GOSPEL it says
MAN is NOT born spiritually DEAD that man has enough life in him
to decide to do some "work" to save himself. And when God SEES
that good work that man has done... God is obligated to save him.
In the Boaster's Gospel MAN is sovereign and MAN initiates his own
salvation... that is why he can BOAST about his good decision.


While the True Gospel says NO MAN will seek God.
The Boaster's Gospel says SOME MEN will seek God.


The True Gospel says God is Sovereign and initiates salvation.
The Boaster's Gospel says Man is Sovereign and initiates the process.


One of these Gospels is the narrow way that leads to life.
One of these Gospels is the BROAD WAY leading to destruction.


The vast majority of Christians follow the Boaster Gospel.
The vast majority of Christians follow the BROAD WAY.


Because MANY are called ["called" by hearing the Gospel]
But FEW are chosen ["chosen" or "elected" to become saved]


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