Stop Normalizing Trump

[rturner76]

Sane-washing, I don't even know it's a word.

Maybe it's something like fact-checking that damages the Trump Party. That is if anyone can tell the difference between a "fact" and "the truth."

 

[childeye 2]

That's exactly what Democrats did after the elections of 2000, 2004 and 2016.

Al Gore certified his own loss, so no. And Hillary got the actual valid electors to switch their votes, so she didn't create fake electors. And I don't recall any issue in 2004.

 

[Aldebaran]

I don't deny Hillary or Stacey believed they would have won if it had not been for the Russian interference, or James Comey, and in Stacy Abrams' case, voter suppression. So that's a strawman argument.

Now you're promoting a Russian conspiracy theory.

But they didn't create slates of false electors and try to get their vice president to reject the votes. And concerning that, I'm just repeating what Trump said at the ellipse and what Pence said in public.

You're just repeating lots of things that support your own opinion.

 

[childeye 2]

You're simply repeating misinformation. Read this:
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump’s defense attorney says the former president never asked Mike Pence to overturn the will of the voters in the 2020 election, but only wanted the former vice president to “pause” the certification of votes to allow states to investigate his claims of election fraud."

Pence, Trump lawyer clash over what Trump told his vice president ahead of Jan. 6

Donald Trump's defense attorney says the former president never asked Mike Pence to overturn the will of the voters in the 2020 election. Pence rejected that account Sunday, saying that on Jan. 5, Trump's attorneys told him, "We want you to reject votes outright."

www.pbs.org

You're simply repeating leftist propaganda.

I'm just repeating what Trump and Pence said. I've heard the description that Trump only wanted to pause the certification so he could get his cases heard. That doesn't change the fact that he created fake electors.

 

[childeye 2]

Now you're promoting a Russian conspiracy theory.

Nope, just stating why Hillary believes she lost. It's also true that three separate official government investigations found there was Russian interference that tried to hurt Hillary.

You're just repeating lots of things that support your own opinion.

I just want to state facts and learn from them. Have you seen Rusty Bowers' testimony or heard the Steve Bannon audio?

 

[Chesterton]

Al Gore certified his own loss, so no. And Hillary got the actual valid electors to switch their votes, so she didn't create fake electors. And I don't recall any issue in 2004.

You don't recall any issue in 2004. I think I'll end this friendly by mentioning something we agree on - I would love you to debate Larry Elders.

 

[rambot]

I just want to state facts and learn from them. Have you seen Rusty Bowers' testimony or heard the Steve Bannon audio?

The critique of "you are just repeating facts that support your opinion" seems....strange.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

you believe Pence instead of Trump

You seem so far down the Trump abyss of lies that you are now unreachable.

Come up for some air.

 

[childeye 2]

The critique of "you are just repeating facts that support your opinion" seems....strange.

I agree an opinion can be formed on facts, but there is a mountain of facts proving Trump wanted fake electors appointed who would say he won the election, and I have not seen any evidence presented proving the election was fraudulent. That's not an opinion.

 

[FireDragon76]

And judge someone as being one.
How about not judging people you don't know?

I judge people by the measure by which I wished to be judged. Last time I checked, nobody ever accused me of being a pathological narcissist.

 

[Astrid]

With the number of Americans now claiming
to be species, gender and race that they are not
it is normal that your Kamala claims to be
“black” tho she cannot demonstrate it beyond a photo
posing with someone presented as a grandmother who died before she was born.

Theres precedent, another candidate for president falsely claimed
Native American ancestry.

 

[rambot]

it is normal that your Kamala claims to be
“black” tho she cannot demonstrate it beyond a photo
posing with someone presented as a grandmother who died before she was born.
.

You can't accept that she's black?

This is BEST reasoning you can present?

This post is making a scraping sound...

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm just repeating what Trump and Pence said. I've heard the description that Trump only wanted to pause the certification so he could get his cases heard. That doesn't change the fact that he created fake electors.

You repeat things. Are you attempting to make a point by doing so?
Keep in mind while quoting Pence, as if he's suddenly so great of a truth teller, he was originally hated by the Left even more than Trump:

The Danger of President Pence

Trump’s critics yearn for his exit. But Mike Pence, the corporate right’s inside man, poses his own risks.

www.newyorker.com

President Mike Pence Would Be Worse Than Trump

The former vice-president is attempting to bolster his chances in 2024, but Democrats would be wise to beware any attempt to rehabilitate his image.

nymag.com

But now he's held up as some sort of hero by the Left. Interesting.

 

[Aldebaran]

You seem so far down the Trump abyss of lies that you are now unreachable.

Come up for some air.

President Mike Pence Would Be Worse Than Trump

The former vice-president is attempting to bolster his chances in 2024, but Democrats would be wise to beware any attempt to rehabilitate his image.

nymag.com

Does this bring back memories?

 

[childeye 2]

You repeat things. Are you attempting to make a point by doing so?

I'm usually having to point out basic facts repeatedly because they are ignored.

But now he's held up as some sort of hero by the Left. Interesting.

I think he can be seen bending for Trump over the years, but he ended up doing the right thing in the end. Whereas Liz Cheney was more a call them as she saw them straight shooter.

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm usually having to point out basic facts repeatedly because they are ignored.

You repeat what people say, but then you judge people unfairly. That's not repeating facts.

I think he can be seen bending for Trump over the years, but he ended up doing the right thing in the end. Whereas Liz Cheney was more a call them as she saw them straight shooter.

And was easily voted out of office.
Clearly, she didn't represent the public she was supposed to serve.

 

[childeye 2]

You repeat what people say, but then you judge people unfairly. That's not repeating facts.

I have no idea what you're referring to when you say I judge people unfairly, you need to give an example for me to respond to, otherwise it's just another blank assertion. How many times have I repeatedly said that to you?

And was easily voted out of office.
Clearly, she didn't represent the public she was supposed to serve.

You mean serve Trump. He wanted Pence to overturn the legitimate vote of the American people.

Trump 7:01 PM, January 30, 2022:
If the Vice President (Mike Pence) had “absolutely no right” to change the Presidential Election results in the Senate, despite fraud and many other irregularities, how come the Democrats and RINO Republicans, like Wacky Susan Collins, are desperately trying to pass legislation that will not allow the Vice President to change the results of the election? Actually, what they are saying, is that Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome, and they now want to take that right away. Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

President Mike Pence Would Be Worse Than Trump

The former vice-president is attempting to bolster his chances in 2024, but Democrats would be wise to beware any attempt to rehabilitate his image.

nymag.com

Does this bring back memories?

" Trump was their pawn; Pence would be a true king. Trump was a relatively weak president, unfocused and unable to aggressively implement much in the way of reactionary policy. Despite commanding significant majorities in the House and Senate, his White House could not force through a repeal of Obamacare, something Republicans had been campaigning on for much of the decade. Rather than radically realign politics, as Reagan did when he blasted away at the New Deal consensus, Trump flailed from crisis to crisis, rarely achieving any kind of far-reaching executive agenda.

" Trump is a danger because he undermines faith in democracy, he lies repeatedly, and he is extraordinarily reckless. But it’s important to remember that Republican competency does not guarantee any kind of safety or security for anyone, in America or abroad."

All from the article you posted. If you stand by it vote Harris.

 

[rambot]

But now he's held up as some sort of hero by the Left. InInteresting.

When someone in Trump's administration breaks from him and does the thing the constitution requires him to do, it will earn some praise.

I see doing the right thing illicits skepticism from you... Interesting.

 

[Aldebaran]

" Trump was their pawn; Pence would be a true king. Trump was a relatively weak president, unfocused and unable to aggressively implement much in the way of reactionary policy. Despite commanding significant majorities in the House and Senate, his White House could not force through a repeal of Obamacare, something Republicans had been campaigning on for much of the decade. Rather than radically realign politics, as Reagan did when he blasted away at the New Deal consensus, Trump flailed from crisis to crisis, rarely achieving any kind of far-reaching executive agenda.

" Trump is a danger because he undermines faith in democracy, he lies repeatedly, and he is extraordinarily reckless. But it’s important to remember that Republican competency does not guarantee any kind of safety or security for anyone, in America or abroad."

All from the article you posted. If you stand by it vote Harris.

I notice you miss the entire point of the article. Did you miss the headline too?