STILL no evidence FOR creation/ID

[Speedwell]

The problem with this statement from a Christian perspective is that the Bible is a unique book. Its words are not just human words, but God's words. So while the propositions of every other book are open to question, the Bible has inherent authority because it is the Word of God. Do you deny the authority of Scripture?

No. I reject certain shallow and theologically unsatisfactory interpretations of it. The authority of scripture rests on its divine inspiration, not on any particular genre determination.

 

[Alpha.Omega]

What an offensive and arrogant suggestion.

why is this?

 

[Tree of Life]

No. I reject certain shallow and theologically unsatisfactory interpretations of it. The authority of scripture rests on its divine inspiration, not on any particular genre determination.

True. Simply affirming the authority of Scripture does not mean a particular interpretation is authoritative. What do you do with Genesis 1?

 

[Alpha.Omega]

No. I reject certain shallow and theologically unsatisfactory interpretations of it. The authority of scripture rests on its divine inspiration, not on any particular genre determination.

do YOU 100% believe in Genesis 1:1?

 

[Alpha.Omega]

What an offensive and arrogant suggestion.

These are YOUR words: "The Bible is no more evidence of creationism than Origin of Species is evidence of evolution"

THIS, is highly arrogant and offensive!

 

[Speedwell]

do YOU 100% believe in Genesis 1:1?

That it is 100% accurate literal history? That God intended it to be 100% accurate literal history? Certainly not. I think that is arrant nonsense.

Must I believe that in order to be saved?

 

[Speedwell]

why is this?

It is typical of the creationist attitude to their fellow Christians "Either Genesis is literally true or it's trash and Jesus died for nothing, so you're gong to Hell despite your faith in Christ, neener, neener."

People sometimes ask me why I "side with atheists" in forums like this. Posts like yours and the attitude they represent are the reason.

 

[tas8831]

You saying that the God of the Holy Bible is a liar?

It could be that His scribes were imperfect.

 

[tas8831]

you have still not shown your evidence for a non Creation beginning to the universe? "NO Evidence?"

Burden shifting fallacy.

And besides, evolution is not about the beginning of the universe.

 

[Alpha.Omega]

Burden shifting fallacy.

And besides, evolution is not about the beginning of the universe.

so how did it all start?

 

[Alpha.Omega]

It could be that His scribes were imperfect.

The Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, is θεόπνευστος

 

[tas8831]

so how did it all start?

I really don't care, but if this diversionary tactic is your way of admitting that you nothing to offer in terms of real evidence that Man was made from Dust, then I accept this and you are free to move along.

 

[tas8831]

The Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, is θεόπνευστος

Unsupported assertions are dismissed.

Concession accepted.

 

[Alpha.Omega]

I really don't care, but if this diversionary tactic is your way of admitting that you nothing to offer in terms of real evidence that Man was made from Dust, then I accept this and you are free to move along.

no tactic at all, I am countering your own argument, and ask for you evidence, and then I will respond.

 

[Alpha.Omega]

God started it.

avoiding what I have said!

 

[tas8831]

no tactic at all, I am countering your own argument, and ask for you evidence, and then I will respond.

So you admit to a burden shifting fallacy.

Concession accepted.

 

[Alpha.Omega]

Yes. That is what Jesus Himself taught, is it not?

Jesus Himself taught full truth in the Old Testament, as mentions Creation as FACT

 

[Alpha.Omega]

So you admit to a burden shifting fallacy.

Concession accepted.

it is very clear that you can attack and make false claims, but when challenged you make excuses!

 

[tas8831]

it is very clear that you can attack and make false claims, but when challenged you make excuses!

It is very clear that you are confabulating things about me to excuse your reliance on fallacies and diversions.

You continue to demonstrate my point. Thanks!

 

[Alpha.Omega]

It is very clear that you are confabulating things about me to excuse your reliance on fallacies and diversions.

You continue to demonstrate my point. Thanks!

Counter, IF you can, Genesis 1:1