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Sorry, that was dense of me.
I was thinking she was teaching Him his reading, didn't pay attention; she was teaching Him the Scriptures?
Imagine that.
ANYhow...
Praise God for His Son!
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addressed, yes, but not satisfactorily, I think. Whether or not the error is innocous or not, Mary teaching scripture to Jesus is error. It would not happen.This was all addressed earlier in the thread and shown to be a none issue . . ..
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addressed, yes, but not satisfactorily, I think. Whether or not the error is innocous or not, Mary teaching scripture to Jesus is error. It would not happen.
understand if fully. however, showing Mary teaching Christ symbolically would be WORSE, not better, IMHO.
OK . . now I know this is not a thread in which answers were seriously sought . . .
When the OP rejects the simple and plain answer in favor of his own ideas, then there is no point in continuing this thread . . it is indeed a slam fest against Catholics . . and that is what it appears to be if our simple answers are going to be thrown back in our faces like that . .
What part of "symbolic" rather than "literal" representation didn't you understand UB?
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understand if fully. however, showing Mary teaching Christ symbolically would be WORSE, not better, IMHO.
BTW, just because we don't see eye to eye, doesn't mean I'm slamming you, or your faith. I often wonder why the RC's are so defensive... That's a matter for another thread though.
Hi. Well the Jews do seem to favor Esther in the OC a lot.How would you reprensent the teaching all mothers gave their young children UB? Do you think that mothers didn't teach their young children while the father was engaged in earning a living? Do you think that mothers didn't teach their children the basics of the Jewish faith from their earliest days?
surly you jest.understand if fully. however, showing Mary teaching Christ symbolically would be WORSE, not better, IMHO.
BTW, just because we don't see eye to eye, doesn't mean I'm slamming you, or your faith. I often wonder why the RC's are so defensive... That's a matter for another thread though.
rosie, you are being honest and I appreciate that.This is what I posted awhile back...why can't we believe Catholics when they say they don't worship statues, or saints or Mary? Ok, to many it may look that way, simply because we do not practice this.
But we do NOT know the hearts of people who do this. We do NOT know exactly why they are doing this. The Catholic posters on this board have stated over and over they do not worship these statues or the people they represent. So, why do we continue arguing that they are?
I can understand why some of the posters have gotten upset and may come across as angry. They probably get tired of being told over and over that what they are doing is wrong. They are tired of being misunderstood when they have tried to explain over and over.
Maybe we all need to try to look at things from the other persons perspective before posting?
Hi. So a saint has to die first before you genuflect to honor them? How is one judged a saint to get this "honor"? Just curiousWe do not worship the saints, we do not bow down to them. We genuflect in honor of who they were/are in heaven.
no, I don't.surly you jest.
All;Hi. So a saint has to die first before you genuflect to honor them? How is one judged a saint to get this "honor"? Just curious
Hi. That isn't what I was asking about. How are ones picked to have an Icon made ofWe do not worship saints, we do not worship Mary. We worship God alone and I am sorry if this is not understood properly or if it is a reality that can not be accepted but it's the truth. We don't.
I know, i don't know how your quote got in there.
I know... defending oneself against slander is not rude. It's just.“They don't want peace..they want to be right and rude. And people wonder why I don't want anything to do with their believes”
This page got rough, people said remarks like “I can not agree with anything that put angels or saints above God” and things to the effect of the Catholic Church is going to abandon God altogether. This started off as to why this one little store had some funny statues, it got turned into a iconoclast war, and it was not the Catholics who steered the conversation away from the original purpose. People are saying we do not really worship God and we are called rude when we defend ourselves.
The statues in church are devotional tools to draw our minds to Christ or to meditate on the lives of the saints, if the next thing you have to say is “well I use the Bible” you can just not say it because ALL CHRISTIANS USE THE BIBLE, I know you use the Bible, I use the Bible. The Catholics and the Orthodox really are Bible believing Christians and to say a thing like “well you use statues and I use the Bible” is a false comparison. I better comparison would be “you use statues and I use a plain cross or nails” or whatever you use to help you focus on God when your not using the Bible. I am glad how only a few people got upset over the Peter=Jupiter thing but when someone says something “rude” there are always enough people to correct error. I for one am really mad right now, and I am not ashamed of it at all, ridicules claims have been taken seriously and treated like a valid reason for concern. It is a sad thing that I have to respond to something as silly as Peter=Jupiter, it is personally demeaning, but such a bold face lie can not go unchallenged.
And rude ones at that... Well not you, your're patient and kind. lol.If we really did worship wood, paint and stone (or the prototypes depicted), why would we deny it ? It's not like iconoclasts are God's policemen who will arrest us and we will go to jail
This is why it is so offensive, first we are accused of something we do not do, and then on top of that we are implicitly made out to be liars.
Then you don't have to do it. This is not a doctrine in the Church to do it. It's a devotional practice.I do not myself have a problem with having a statue.. I do though have a problem with people talking to them. Bowing to them. Kissing their feet. Dressing them up. Carrying them around the streets as if they are to be something to admire.. This is where I have a problem..
yep.... I can't really control what other people do.Surly you had to see this coming.
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