Starting a writing/book...?

[Neogaia777]

But it wasn't a tragedy, because it wasn't the end. It wasn't unexpected or unavoidable.
It was his plan, it was foretold in the Scriptures, it was his will to reconcile all to himself through the death of his Son. Jesus deliberately went to Jerusalem, knowing what was going to happen. He predicted his death, betrayal and Peter's denial. In John 13:1 we are told that "Jesus, knowing that the hour had come for him to leave this world ....."
God knew about the resurrection.

Sorry, but you seem to be presenting yourself as an authority on God's pain, and talk about some of us not knowing him. With respect, you're not even sure whether to write "Him" or "them."

"Him" in that reply is referring to God the Spirit, and (Them) in parentheses is referring to all three members of the Trinity.

I said what I said, and it is very, very correct, and I'm sorry if you refuse to acknowledge it or understand it.

God Bless.

 

[Neogaia777]

@Neogaia777

As touching upon the theology side of your writing:

Well, you said [about God], I quote:

“The one thing He was limited by however, ​

was His ability to show Himself to others inside ​

this universe without others,“ Quote by Neogaia777.​

While God did not always reveal Himself fully throughout the Bible,
nowhere does Scripture say that God was limited in showing Himself.
That’s your own thinking and not the Bible.

Luke 1:37 says,

“For with God nothing shall be impossible.”​

In fact, at the end in Revelation, we learn how the Lamb will be the light thereof.

Revelation 21:23 says,

“And the city had no need of the sun,​

neither of the moon, to shine in it: for​

the glory of God did lighten it,​

and the Lamb is the light thereof.”​

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So God clearly is not limited as you say here.
The Lamb (GOD) will be the light to all people in the end.

You also said, I quote:

”So, this one was put into place as ​

being God of this Sol solar system and this earth,“​

Quote by: Neogaia777​

This is suggesting that you believe that some entity of some kind was placed into power of control as God of our universe and Earth whereas such an entity did not have such a power or control before. This is suggestive that they were not God before or at least they were not God in power before the creation.

Christians are monotheists.
Monotheism is the belief in one God.
There is only one God according to Scripture.
This one God has always existed from eternity’s past,
and He will abide forever into the future for all eternity.

Psalms 90:2 says,

“…from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.”​

So there never would have been a point in time that the Lord our God would one day become in power to having the universe.
God always eternally had power to create the universe and He always was sovereign over everything else.

Yes, this one God also exists as three distinct persons (i.e. the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost - 1 John 5:7).
While God exists as three distinct persons, He is one God in substance.
He is not three gods in unity (like in the sense of a family). That would be Tritheism, which is false.
Neither are the three persons of the Trinity or Godhead not distinct, either (Whereby God just puts on a mask or pretends to be different persons), either. That would be Modalism, which is also false.

To learn more about God’s nature or the Trinity (Godhead) with Scripture, see this thread here:

Does God have a God? Explaining John 20:17 in Defense of the Trinity.

"Jesus saith unto her, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."" (John 20:17). Is Jesus (Who is God) really saying He has a God? In other words, does God have a God...

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You also said, I quote:

”This one would also have a youth, ​

and would eventually become old,”​

Quote by: Neogaia777​

This is suggestive that you are talking about Jesus Christ.
However, while it may not have been your intention, the wording here suggests that you are claiming that Jesus grew up to be an old man (like an old man who looks like he is in his 80’s or 90’s). It would be more accurate to say that he had grown from being a baby to be a man or an adult. So clarity of information is important to not confuse your readers.

Anyways, I am not going to dissect everything you wrote. But so far, you have appeared to have gone beyond what is written in the Bible.

But I would encourage you that you should not go beyond what is written in God’s Word.
The Bible does not need to be re-written.

But it would caution you against trying to re-write your own odd version or thoughts about God that are clearly not Biblical.

I apologize for some of my wordings, but I am trying to make it easy enough for a child (or someone unfamiliar or unlearned) to understand, etc. But I will make just a few quick edits/adjustments, see if you can catch them when I do, and maybe they will help you understand.

God Bless.

 

[Strong in Him]

To you maybe.

God Bless.

Maybe to others too.
And if you are writing a book which you would hope/expect people to buy, that's kind of important. Assuming, of course, that it were to get published.

 

[Strong in Him]

"Him" in that reply is referring to God the Spirit, and (Them) in parentheses is referring to all three members of the Trinity.

I said what I said, and it is very, very correct, and I'm sorry if you refuse to acknowledge it or understand it.

God Bless.

There is ONE God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
The Father is God
The Son is God
The Spirit is God.
HE is ONE.

 

[Neogaia777]

Maybe to others too.
And if you are writing a book which you would hope/expect people to buy, that's kind of important. Assuming, of course, that it were to get published.

First off, I don't care about the money, or really even if it does get published or not really, but I might make a few attempts, or try, once it is complete, or is finished, that is, etc.

And secondly, I think it may have a certain market maybe, although maybe not to certain kinds of pagans like you maybe, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.

 

[Strong in Him]

First off, I don't care about the money, or really even if it does get published or not really, but I might make a few attempts, or try, once it is complete, or it is finished, that is, etc.

And secondly, I think it may have a certain market maybe, although maybe not to certain kinds of pagans like you maybe, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.

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Well as you stated in your first post that you didn't want your theology questioned, and as you have now, wrongly, judged me to be a pagan, I think this conversation is at an end.
I never mentioned money, nor said that you wanted it, but publication would give you a wider audience. Assuming that any editors read it, understand it and think it is worthy of it.

 

[Neogaia777]

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Well as you stated in your first post that you didn't want your theology questioned, and as you have now, wrongly, judged me to be a pagan, I think this conversation is at an end.
I never mentioned money, nor said that you wanted it, but publication would give you a wider audience. Assuming that any editors read it, understand it and think it is worthy of it.

I think I actually said that if it was questioned that I would respond or defend it viciously, or else not respond or reply at all, and that is what I actually said actually, etc. And this is due to my already knowing how correct it is, and my already knowing how viciously I can defend it, as I've already been around these mulberry bushes many, many, many times before, etc. But I guess you can think I said something else if you want. But the only reason I didn't want to get into it/that, or do that, is only because I don't really like doing that anymore, etc. As the fact that I am still capable of it is enough, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.

 

[Strong in Him]

I think I actually said that if it was questioned that I would respond or defend it viciously, or else not respond or reply at all, and that is what I actually said actually, etc.

Yes, you probably did - although you now seem to have edited that bit. You also said that you were not going to ALLOW anyone to challenge your basic theology - which you can't prevent from happening on a public forum, unless you start a blog.

As I said, better that we challenge it that some editor, publisher or theologian. Though it sounds as though you already know that you are right and they are wrong.

 

[Neogaia777]

Yes, you probably did - although you now seem to have edited that bit. You also said that you were not going to ALLOW anyone to challenge your basic theology - which you can't prevent from happening on a public forum, unless you start a blog.

As I said, better that we challenge it that some editor, publisher or theologian. Though it sounds as though you already know that you are right and they are wrong.

Well, what I actually meant is I would defend it, if I had to, or else not reply or respond at all, as I don't like doing it, etc.

Do you know how long, and how many postings I have done on this forum?

Anyway, you guys have just about as much to do with this as I do, as you helped shape it just about as much as I do, or did or do, as well, etc.

And also God I do fully believe as well, etc. Because He has most definitely helped shape it over the years as well, etc.

God Bless.

 

[Strong in Him]

Well, what I actually meant is I would defend it, if I had to, or else not reply or respond at all, as I don't like doing it, etc.

Do you know how long, and how many postings I have done on this forum?

Anyway, you guys have just about as much to do with this as I do, etc.

God Bless.

Sorry, but there's something wrong if you write something but then can't, or won't, defend it if challenged.
If you don't like responding to criticism, that's hard on your readers; who might, after a while, think "why should I bother?" If you believe in what you are writing you should want people to read it. And if you believe it is the truth, you have nothing to fear from criticism/challenge. If you keep coming up against challenge/contradiction/criticism, that rather suggests that you are going wrong somewhere. And this is in the "Controversial Theology" section, so what do you expect?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

@Neogaia777

As for the writing side of your work:

Well, what you have written is more like a summary of what you think the Bible says, and it is not really a book or a storyline.

Now, if you want to create a unique fictional story about the God of the Bible which takes place in non-biblical history or in recent history, or the present that is fine. Check out the films Time Changer, Polycarp, and the Redemption of Henry Myers (For starters) to get an idea of what a good Christian storyline is like.

Try practicing writing out a good Christian movie you have seen. Better yet, try looking at book adaptations of movies and try to re-write them to be better. They describe the setting and environment of things making the reader feel like they are inside the story and experiencing it like they would a movie (But it is with words).

Being a good writer is about knowing how to:

#1. Listen, and read properly.
#2. Communicate a story well.
#3. Communicate characters properly that feel real.
#4. Create a story and characters that are both exciting and interesting.

I would take some writing courses on Udemy.

While your goal may not be to write screenplays for movies, I would still highly recommend two screen writing books to get an idea of the important things involved in the basics of writing.

Recommended books:

#1. How to write a movie in 21 days (Book).
#2. Screenplay: The Foundations of Screenwriting.

One of the major things I learned is that you need to have three acts in your overall storyline.
Each of those acts has to end with an act ending theme or point that are all related. Each of these story acts has a purpose in the story. A good book will want your reader on the edge of their seat wanting to read more.

As for your lack of paragraphs:

While paragraphing in fictional writing is slightly different in paragraphs in regular writings, you should first know the basics of paragraphs rules before you write any book.

While there are more advanced techniques in fictional paragraphing, here are some basics in how to paragraph when you write a fictIonal story.

As for character and dialogue:

Writing convincing dialogue of your characters is a lot of study and work, too.
You need to have a bio for each of your characters with background information.
The best way to show a person’s personality is not them telling you their feelings by dialogue but by showing them by their actions or emotions. Try basing your characters off real people you know but do try to alter them slightly. Meaning, alter their name, appearance, and character slightly (So as not to disrespect them).

I would also get a program called, “Grammarly.”
It will help to correct your grammar.
If you use it on your mobile device, it is very glitchy in its corrections.
So I would not use it with a tablet or smartphone.
This program works best with a real computer or MAC using “Google Docs.”

But I would study the following topics before you write any book.

#1. Fiction Writing (Search, “How to write fiction novels“ on YouTube and watch at least 50 videos and take notes).
#2. How to properly read (See this video here).
#3. How to communicate to others (See this video here, and here).
#4. How to properly listen (See this video here).

May this information bless you.

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[Neogaia777]

@Neogaia777

As for the writing side of your work:

Well, what you have written is more like a summary of what you think the Bible says, and it is not really a book or a storyline.

Now, if you want to create a unique fictional story about the God of the Bible which takes place in non-biblical history or in recent history, or the present that is fine. Check out the films Time Changer, Polycarp, and the Redemption of Henry Myers (For starters) to get an idea of what a good Christian storyline is like.

Try practicing writing out a Christian good movie you have seen. Better yet, try looking at book adaptations of movies and try to re-write them to be better. They describe the setting and environment of things making the reader feel like they are inside the story and experiencing it like they would a movie (But it is with words).

Being a good writer is about knowing how to:

#1. Listen, and read properly.
#2. Communicate a story well.
#3. Communicate characters properly that feel real.
#4. Create a story and characters that are both exciting and interesting.

I would take some writing courses on Udemy.

While your goal may not be to write screenplays for movies, I would still highly recommend two screen writing books to get an idea of the important things involved in the basics of writing.

Recommended books:

#1. How to write a movie in 21 days (Book).
#2. Screenplay: The Foundations of Screenwriting.

One of the major things I learned is that you need to have three acts in your overall storyline.
Each of those acts has to end with an act ending theme or point that are all related. Each of these story acts has a purpose in the story.
A good book will want your reader on the edge of their seat wanting to read more.

As for your lack of paragraphs:

While paragraphing in fictional writing is slightly different in paragraphs in regular writings, you should first know the basics of paragraphs rules before you write any book.

While there are more advanced techniques in fictional paragraphing, here are some basics in how to paragraph when you write a fictIonal story.

As for character and dialogue:

Also, writing convincing dialogue of your characters is a lot of study and work, too.
You need to have a bio for each of your characters with background information.
The best way to show a person’s personality is not them telling you their feelings but by showing them by their actions or emotions.
Try basing your characters off real people you know but do try to alter them slightly. Meaning, alter their name, appearance, and character slightly (So as not to disrespect them).

I would also get a program called, “Grammarly.”
It will help to correct your grammar.
If you use it on your mobile device, it is very glitchy in its corrections.
So I would not use it with a tablet or smartphone.
This program works best with a real computer or MAC using “Google Docs.”

But I would study the following topics before you write any book.

#1. Fiction Writing.
#2. How to properly read (See this video here).
#3. How to communicate to others (See this video here, and here).
#4. How to properly listen (See this video here).

May this information bless you.

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I will look into it, but I plan on getting it all in there, and down first, before going back and doing any major editing, and there will probably be many, many things I will need to look into about it after that.

Thanks.

God Bless.

 

[Strong in Him]

I will look into it, but I plan on getting it all in there, and down first, before going back and doing any major editing, and there will probably be many, many things I will need to look into about it after that.

Yes, I've just done an online course about writing a book - and the advice was definitely "get it down first, then edit. If you edit as you go along, you will probably get distracted/bogged down and never finish it."
Then when you've edited it yourself, give it to others for feedback.

 

[Neogaia777]

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Sorry, but there's something wrong if you write something but then can't, or won't, defend it if challenged.
If you don't like responding to criticism, that's hard on your readers; who might, after a while, think "why should I bother?" If you believe in what you are writing you should want people to read it. And if you believe it is the truth, you have nothing to fear from criticism/challenge. If you keep coming up against challenge/contradiction/criticism, that rather suggests that you are going wrong somewhere. And this is in the "Controversial Theology" section, so what do you expect?

I get tired, really don't want to argue, and do sometimes think it is a complete waste of time.

I already know my "theology" (or whatever) is correct, and have very little to prove beyond wanting to know what I might need to edit, or improve about this right now, and all else has now really become to me really, a complete waste of time, so...

Anyway, I have moved away from being on here a lot already or lately because of this, and while I have been away I have started working on this, and just thought I'd come on here to see what people think/thought, but not just to argue, because that to me now has become a complete waste of time.

God Bless.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I will look into it, but I plan on getting it all in there, and down first, before going back and doing any major editing, and there will probably be many, many things I will need to look into about it after that.

Thanks.

God Bless.

I am not sure you understood me. I would not go with the current writing you have. I would trash it and start brand new on an actual real storyline that sounds like an actual novel. I would also not write in the setting of bible history because that can appear like one is adding to God’s Word. But if you write after the time the Bible is complete, that is another matter. Otherwise you are doing the same wrong thing that the Chosen TV Series is doing. Try to avoid in altering the Bible in any way. If you say something theological, make sure it is straight from a direct quote from the Bible and not your own thoughts or thinking.

 

[Neogaia777]

Yes, I've just done an online course about writing a book - and the advice was definitely "get it down first, then edit. If you edit as you go along, you will probably get distracted/bogged down and never finish it."
Then when you've edited it yourself, give it to others for feedback.

Thanks, and thank you, and I really do mean that.

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

I am not sure you understood me. I would not go with the current writing you have. I would trash it and start brand new on an actual real storyline that sounds like an actual novel. I would also not write in the setting of bible history because that can appear like one is adding to God’s Word. But if you write after the time the Bible is complete, that is another matter. Otherwise you are doing the same wrong thing that the Chosen TV Series is doing. Try to avoid in altering the Bible in any way. If you say something theological, make sure it is straight from a direct quote from the Bible and not your own thoughts or thinking.

I'll consider it.

God Bless.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

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I get tired, really don't want to argue, and do sometimes think it is a complete waste of time.

I already know my "theology" (or whatever) is correct, and have very little to prove beyond wanting to know what I might need to edit, or improve about this right now, and all else has now really become to me really, a complete waste of time, so...

Anyway, I have moved away from being on here a lot already or lately because of this, and while I have been away I have started working on this, and just thought I'd come on here to see what people think/thought, but not just to argue, because that to me now has become a complete waste of time.

God Bless.

You said God is limited in showing Himself. Yet, we know this is not true because the Lamb will forever be the light to His people in the End. You could say God appeared to limit His appearances at time in the Old Testament. That would be more accurate to say.
So you have to learn to communicate what the Bible actually says properly. This is something that you should learn to master first before tackling any kind of Christian writing project. If we cannot accurately convey the truth of the Bible, then any book attempt will fail or at the least it will fail to express what the Bible actually says.

I am not trying to discourage you, I am just saying that certain things need to happen first before we move on to the next steps.

 

[Neogaia777]

You said God is limited in showing Himself. Yet, we know this is not true because the Lamb will forever be the light to His people in the End. You could say God appeared to limit His appearances at time in the Old Testament. That would be more accurate to say.
So you have to learn to communicate what the Bible actually says properly. This is something that you should learn to master first before tackling any kind of Christian writing project. If we cannot accurately convey the truth of the Bible, then any book attempt will fail or at the least it will fail to express what the Bible actually says.

I am not trying to discourage you, I am just saying that certain things need to happen first before we move on to the next steps.

In Heaven, and at, or after the very, very end, this is true, the Lamb (Jesus) will be, or will become a light to all His people forever there, at, or after that time, etc. But aren't you at all interested in everything that is, was, and will forever be in-between? Because I am, etc. And I have not even begun with any of that yet, and you are judging a thing way, way, way before, or way, way, way ahead of it's time, etc.

Also, my target audience here may not be most Christians maybe as well. And so I think you might need to consider that also, etc.

And beyond that, I really don't want to argue on here right now, etc.

God Bless.

 

[Strong in Him]

I get tired, really don't want to argue, and do sometimes think it is a complete waste of time.

I already know my "theology" (or whatever) is correct, and have very little to prove beyond wanting to know what I might need to edit, or improve about this right now, and all else has now really become to me really, a complete waste of time, so...

Anyway, I have moved away from being on here a lot already or lately because of this, and while I have been away I have started working on this, and just thought I'd come on here to see what people think/thought, but not just to argue, because that to me now has become a complete waste of time.

Yes, but some people are telling you that your theology is incorrect.
And I believe that you said that if someone else told you this, you'd tell them they were wrong and ignore them.

So I'm afraid that it probably is a waste of time.
Yes, we can have discussions about writing and style of, but if you are adamant that you are right and everyone else is wrong - what is the point?