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Yes, but some people are telling you that your theology is incorrect.
And I believe that you said that if someone else told you this, you'd tell them they were wrong and ignore them.

So I'm afraid that it probably is a waste of time.
Yes, we can have discussions about writing and style of, but if you are adamant that you are right and everyone else is wrong - what is the point?
I'd show them where they were wrong, or I might not reply at all maybe actually, is a whole lot closer to what I said, etc.

But and/or because I am quickly beginning to miss the point of showing others where they have been going wrong all of this time, etc.

God Bless!
 
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Yes, but some people are telling you that your theology is incorrect.
And I believe that you said that if someone else told you this, you'd tell them they were wrong and ignore them.

So I'm afraid that it probably is a waste of time.
Yes, we can have discussions about writing and style of, but if you are adamant that you are right and everyone else is wrong - what is the point?
So people telling me it is wrong means they are correct then? Or am I maybe missing something here maybe, etc?

God Bless.
 
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I'll consider it.

God Bless.
Well, if you want to succeed in writing, there is nothing really to consider here. Trashing your current writing is your only option unless you are just doing it as a side hobby for your own personal benefit of artistic expression with no intention of anyone else caring about it. This is not an ad hominem or an attack. I am just being honest and I know what has a chance to succeed and what will not (Unless you already have one million people following you on social media already hanging on every word you say). I also take issue with what you think the Bible says (Unless you are not effectively communicating the right words). You also do not appear to understand me when I write (even in past posts over the years). As a writer, you need to be an effective listener and understand what they are talking about (Especially when they write). If you find people confused when you write or speak, this is an indication that you need to work on basic communication skills before considering in moving on to professional writing. Again, I say this not to knock you down by any means. You can be a good writer if you truly want to be, but there is a great sacrifice involved in learning and study and getting certain basic things down first before you can achieve that goal.

There is also the problem of trying to re-write the Bible.
Don’t base any of your stories during the timeline of the Bible.
This is dangerous because it can make it appear like your adding words to the Bible (Like the Chosen TV series does).

I hope this helps.

May God bless you, as well.
 
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Well, if you want to succeed in writing, there is nothing really to consider here. Trashing your current writing is your only option unless you are just doing it as a side hobby for your own personal benefit of artistic expression or release with no intention of anyone else caring about it. This is not an ad hominem or an attack. I am just being honest and I know what has a chance to succeed and what will not (Unless you already have one million people following you on social media already hanging on every word you say). I also take issue with what you think the Bible says (Unless you are not effectively communicating the right words). You also do not appear to understand me when I write (even in past posts over the years). As a writer, you need to be an effective listener and understand what they are talking about (Especially when they write). If you find people confused when you write or speak, this is an indication that you need to work on basic communication skills before considering in moving on to professional writing. Again, I say this not to knock you down by any means. You can be a good writer if you truly want to be, but there is a great sacrifice involved in learning and study and getting certain basic things down first before you can achieve that goal.

May God bless you, as well.
Actually I'm just trying to be polite, and not argue right now, as I am probably going to stick to this subject, and finish this kind of work first, before thinking about, or considering anything else right now, but I thank you for your input anyway.

God Bless!
 
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In Heaven, and at, or after the very, very end, this is true, the Lamb (Jesus) will be, or will become a light to all His people forever there, at, or after that time, etc. But aren't you at all interested in everything that is, was, and will forever be in-between? Because I am, etc. And I have not even begun with any of that yet, and you are judging a thing way, way, way before, or way, way, way ahead of its time, etc.
But you need to communicate that fact. This was not made clear in your current writing and so people will misunderstand what you are trying to say. So you have to consider all truths when you write. You made it sound like God‘s hands were tied for all eternity in that He could not show Himself often. This is placing a restriction upon GOD that is not specifically spoken about in Scripture. You could say, that God in the Old Testament limited His appearances. That would be true. But your words did not say that.

Also, my target audience here may not be most Christians maybe as well. And so I think you might need to consider that also, etc.
If you cannot correctly communicate the truths of the Bible in the OP to Christians then how can you help unbelievers? Again, I say this not to discourage you but to help you to learn how to properly communicate. It appears you need to have basic courses on how to properly communicate and write to others so as to be understood and to convey information properly. Any professional writing project right now would be a futile effort on your part currently unless you have one million followers already on social media hanging on every word you say.
And beyond that, I really don't want to argue on here right now, etc.
I understand this is a touchy subject.
But look at the fruits of your work.
Did you get people praising you for it?
Do people say to you frequently that you are not understanding what they said?
These are signs and indications to work on your communication and listening skills in both writing and speech before one can tackle any professional writing project. You can still be a successful writer. But basic communication, reading, and listening skills needs to take place first before the writing can even happen.

God Bless.
May God bless you, as well.
 
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I also don’t think that a rewriting of the Bible in summarizing it will be a top seller unless there was some kind of ultra cool niche or medium attached. There are other books out there that summarize the Bible’s stories already.
Unless you are taking a unique approach that has never been done before, then that would be a different matter.

Again, scrap the idea of writing a storyline taking place in the Bible’s timeline.
Stick to writing fictional Christian stories that are outside the time of the Bible.
Otherwise you can fall into the danger of adding to God’s Word or in turning His truth into myths (By your own fiction).

The timeline of the Bible is a sacred time that is God’s time and story for us. We should not play games in trying to say this happened or that happened (even on a fictional basis) because that is attempting to misinform people about God’s true words.

The Chosen TV series is an abomination. Don’t be one of those kinds of people who turns the Bible into fiction.
 
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I also don’t think that a rewriting of the Bible in summarizing it will be a top seller unless there was some kind of ultra cool niche or medium attached. There are other books out there that summarize the Bible’s stories already.
Unless you are taking a unique approach that has never been done before, then that would be a different matter.

Again, scrap the idea of writing a storyline taking place in the Bible’s timeline.
Stick to writing fictional Christian stories that are outside the time of the Bible.
Otherwise you can fall into the danger of adding to God’s Word or in turning His truth into myths (By our own fiction).

The timeline of the Bible is a sacred time that is God’s time and story for us. We should not play games in trying to say this happened or that happened (even on a fictional basis) because that is attempting to misinform people about God’s true words.

The Chosen TV series is an abomination. Don’t be one of those kinds of people who turns the Bible into fiction.
I don't watch a lot of TV, and when I do I am very much highly selective about it...

I thought about watching The Chosen, saw a couple adds or previews for it, but also knew that, while it might be an intriguing perspective, that it also might distract me from what I already know about Him, and so I decided not to watch it, as I also don't think that any of them (movies or TV shows portraying Jesus) can really show the 100% real or total truth about Him anyway...

One I did really, really like that I did watch recently though was the movie "Jesus Revolution", which is not a Jesus portrayal, but is a recollection of some real or true people, and some real time historical events...

Have you seen that one yet...?

Because I think it's good, etc...

God Bless!
 
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So people telling me it is wrong means they are correct then?
It depends on what your statement is and whether or not it is Scriptural.

The crucifixion might have seemed like a tragedy, but it wasn't. It was God's plan and an amazing act of love. It was foretold in the OT.
 
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The crucifixion might have seemed like a tragedy, but it wasn't. It was God's plan and an amazing act of love. It was foretold in the OT.
It would turn out to be one of the most absolutely amazing things in all the world, and for all time, etc, but I also think you are very, very much greatly underestimating, by far, the very, very great difficulty of both God the Spirit, and God the Son, having to go through with it.

And, in my opinion, by greatly underestimating that, you have greatly underestimated, or greatly misunderstood, much, etc.

God Bless!
 
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If they were.
Having a different interpretation than you does not make someone wrong.
I'll come on here and argue certain points, or certain details, when it's all done, ok.

Will that maybe make you happy, etc?

God Bless!
 
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It would turn out to be one of the most absolutely amazing things in all the world, and for all time, etc, but I also think you are very, very much greatly underestimating, by far, the very, very great difficulty of both God the Spirit, and God the Son, having to go through with it.

And, in my opinion, by greatly underestimating that, you have greatly underestimated, or greatly misunderstood, much, etc.

God Bless!
I never said it was easy for Jesus to go through it; of course it wasn't, or he wouldn't have prayed "take this cup from me ". No one knows how much agony he went through for us.
That doesn't mean the cross was a tragedy.
We have good Friday, not tragic Friday.
 
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I never said it was easy for Jesus to go through it; of course it wasn't, or he wouldn't have prayed "take this cup from me ". No one knows how much agony he went through for us.
That doesn't mean the cross was a tragedy.
We have good Friday, not tragic Friday.
Yet you also don't know how difficult it was for God the Spirit also, and how it also affected Him afterward.

Abraham and Issac should give you a clue?

And how God the Spirit back then tried to show it to Abraham, and why it would not be His first choice in having to go through with it.

God Bless.
 
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I don't watch a lot of TV, and when I do I am very much highly selective about it...

I thought about watching The Chosen, saw a couple adds or previews for it, but also knew that, while it might be an intriguing perspective, that it also might distract me from what I already know about Him, and so I decided not to watch it, as I also don't think that any of them (movies or TV shows portraying Jesus) can really show the 100% real or total truth about Him anyway...
That’s good.


One I did really, really like that I did watch recently though was the movie "Jesus Revolution", which is not a Jesus portrayal, but is a recollection of some real or true people, and some real time historical events...

Have you seen that one yet...?

Because I think it's good, etc...

God Bless!
Chuck Smith made a false prediction that the Apocalypse would come in 1981. There are other problems involving Chuck, as well.

In either case, the movie is not telling you the whole truth (Which is scary).

To learn more about the troubling things involving Lonnie Frisbee, check out this article here:

 
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That’s good.



Chuck Smith made a false prediction that the Apocalypse would come in 1981. There are other problems involving Chuck, as well.

In either case, the movie is not telling you the whole truth (Which is scary).

To learn more about the troubling things involving Lonnie Frisbee, check out this article here:

It showed that both and/or all of them were human, and flawed, and not perfect, and that was more than enough for me, so the fact that they would also err, later on, is not all that surprising to me.

It's portrayal of the time period in question is fairly accurate I believe.

Really kind of speaks to our times, etc.

God Bless.
 
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That’s good.



Chuck Smith made a false prediction that the Apocalypse would come in 1981. There are other problems involving Chuck, as well.

In either case, the movie is not telling you the whole truth (Which is scary).

To learn more about the troubling things involving Lonnie Frisbee, check out this article here:

Just checked out your link, so you are saying Mr. Frisbee didn't have a time period where he repented, or got clean?

Anyway, I might look into it more later using Google and not just only your links.

I also don't find a lot of problems with modern day Christian music, and still listen to a lot of songs that I grew up with.

God Bless.
 
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For God the Spirit at the time, it was a heart-breaking, heart wrenching tragedy at the time.

Unless you think He took pleasure in him going through all of that, and watching him die?

Regardless of His knowing he would be resurrected, he was still His biological son, and it was very, very difficult for Him to watch him go through all of that, and not do a single thing about it, and watch him die.

And all of this just proves all the more how few of you actually know Him (or Them) if you don't even understand this about Him (or Them) and the very unique pain He was going through with watching His son go through all of that pain, and totally unjust mistreatment, and watching His son die.
There was no need to do anything about the atonement since it was planned from the beginning and Christ being God was fully aware of the pain and suffering He would endure for our sins. The Father says He was pleased and it was done out of love.
 
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Ok, let me first just tell you what I might think about Judgement, and where I think all of us are going to stand, so that you might know where I stand, ok...

First off, it's going to be on an individual by individual basis and "all things" are going to be carefully weighed by God in those individual judgements, etc. For a person who accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior, and as their answer as to the question of why they should get into Heaven or not, etc, the standard will not be absolute perfection. Next, in weighing all matters out in an individuals judgement, they will only be judged for whatever things God chooses to hold against them, which will not be all of it for the true believer, but it will only be such things as God deemed them capable of doing, or else not doing (away with) in this life, for each individual one, which will all be different for each individual one, etc. I'm not sure if a person who has truly had faith in Jesus Christ to save them, and be their Lord and Savior, or that is the reason that they give as an answer to the question as to why they should get into Heaven or not, etc, can ever truly lose out on that salvation or not, etc, but they could most definitely lose out on rewards, and maybe also positions possibly, etc. But notice I use the word "truly" here also, so if there are any "fakers" out there, then I'm pretty sure God will know about it, etc.

And, anyway, that's mostly my position on judgement and as to who really gets to be saved or gets to be in Heaven or not, etc.

"Mostly" anyway, etc.

God Bless!
 
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Just checked out your link, so you are saying Mr. Frisbee didn't have a time period where he repented, or got clean?

Anyway, I might look into it more later using Google and not just only your links.

I also don't find a lot of problems with modern day Christian music, and still listen to a lot of songs that I grew up with.

God Bless.
I have mixed views about the Christian music industry. I believe that while much of the music is worldly, some songs or artists may potentially be more God honoring and genuine. I cannot judge everyone in that industry. But I decided to give it up to follow Jesus alone to be safe. For example: Jars of clay lead singer promotes the Sodom agenda. He also is involved in the music involving the Chosen.

Most of evangelical bible believing Christianity looks good at first, but under closer inspection, we find that they teach contradictions.
Chuck Smith teaches a contradiction in this video.


Sometime shortly after the 10 minute and 38 second mark, Chuck Smith teaches that we are not saved by faith + works. Yet, he teaches that works need to be there for a true saving faith. So he believes in a contradiction. Either works are not required whatsoever and you are saved solely by faith alone (belief alone) or you are not. What Chuck gets confused about is that he conflates works as a part of saving grace as being for initial salvation (as a part of his accusation against those who believe the Bible).

We are first saved by God’s grace without works in our Initial Salvation (Ephesians 2:8-9).
But after we are saved by God’s grace without works (in our Initial Salvation), we then need to enter the Secondary Aspect of Salvation. This secondary aspect of salvation involves works and to live a life of holiness as a part of Sanctification of the Spirit.
For without holiness, no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).
2 Thessalonians 2:13 says God has chosen you to salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth. This is a call of the gospel (2 Thessalonians 2:14). The gospel is believing the message in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. That Is where salvation starts. But salvation continues in the Sanctification Process in living a holy life.

Galatians 6:8-9, and Romans 8:13 also teach Sanctification is a part of God’s continued plan of salvation (Which is only AFTER we are saved by God’s grace through faith without works - in our initial salvation).

So Chuck is teaching a contradiction.

To get a flavor of how wrong Christianity is today in regards to this topic, check out this video here:

 
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I have mixed views about the Christian music industry. I believe that while much of the music is worldly, some songs or artists may potentially be more God honoring and genuine. I cannot judge everyone in that industry. But I decided to give it up to follow Jesus alone to be safe. For example: Jars of clay lead singer promotes the Sodom agenda. He also is involved in the music involving the Chosen.

Most of evangelical bible believing Christianity looks good at first, but under closer inspection, we find that they teach contradictions.
Chuck Smith teaches a contradiction in this video.


Sometime shortly after the 10 minute and 38 second mark, Chuck Smith teaches that we are not saved by faith + works. Yet, he teaches that works need to be there for a true saving faith. So he believes in a contradiction. Either works are not required whatsoever and you are saved solely by faith alone (belief alone) or you are not. What Chuck gets confused about is that he conflates works as a part of saving grace as being for initial salvation.

We are first saved by God’s grace without works in our Initial Salvation (Ephesians 2:8-9).
But after we are saved by God’s grace without works (in our Initial Salvation), we then need to enter the Secondary Aspect of Salvation. This secondary aspect of salvation involves works and to live a life of holiness as a part of Sanctification of the Spirit.
For without holiness, no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).
2 Thessalonians 2:13 says God has chosen you to salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth. This is a call of the gospel (2 Thessalonians 2:14). The gospel is believing the message in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. That Is where salvation starts. But salvation continues in the Sanctification Process in living a holy life. So Chuck is teaching a contradiction.

To get a flavor of how wrong Christianity is today in regards to this topic, check out this video here:

I think I tried to answer most of what you are talking about here in my latest post to you on judgement, and I'm not really all that surprised people are still confused about it, etc, as it seems to have been a problem/debate with a lot of pastors and preachers/evangelists, etc, etc, etc, for "quite a while", etc, and the Lord knows we still see it on here quite a bit still, or a lot of the time still, etc.

But with like the Hitler situation and stuff, look for where I talked about "truly", and God knowing the difference, etc.

I try not to watch a lot of videos, so I'm probably not going to be watching these ones right now, ok, but I will say "I'm sorry" for that, ok...

God Bless!
 
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