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Stopped any more progress on my book for now until I can figure this out, if I ever can, and if not, I might need to make a few footnotes, or modifications. My current theory or postulation is that God in the OT (YHWH) is God the Holy Spirit, or is God the Spirit who is separate from God the Father and God the Son (Jesus Christ) in the Old and New Testaments, and that these three make up the Trinity. But I have to also face the possibility that Jesus was quite literally God in the OT, or YHWH, etc, and that the Holy Spirit is just the Holy Spirit who is separate from either God the Father and/or God the Son, or both or all of them.
Either way, let's say Jesus was literally YHWH, it still does not change the fact that there both is and always was, etc, a God the Father, or Heavenly Father God that was always (or at the beginning) was always higher than both of them.

Still working on it and will keep you updated in my progress.

God Bless.
All three separate persons are God, one Being, which cannot be higher than itself.
 
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All three separate persons are God, one Being, which cannot be higher than itself.
Where in scripture does it say that they are "one being" specifically?

I'm familiar with where it sometimes says God is "one", but not "one being" or "same person" specifically. And this part of the problem with classical church teachings that are only "the doctrines or teachings or overeachings" of what are only "the doctrines and teachings of men", etc.

God Bless.
 
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Where in scripture does it say that they are "one being" specifically?

I'm familiar with where it sometimes says God is "one", but not "one being" or "same person" specifically. And this part of the problem with classical church teachings that are only "the doctrines or teachings or overeachings" of what are only "the doctrines and teachings of men", etc.

God Bless.
Ill try and save you all some time with some of it, as I've dealt with some of these subjects before many, many times already, and I get impatient with the waiting, etc, ok.

God being "one" simply means that they are united, or are in union, or that what they do or choose or decide is "in unison", but it does not mean that they are all each exactly the same, or were maybe even always equal always even, or that they are all the exact same person, etc.

Only God, Only True God, none higher than Him, etc.

If you check the context of all of these verses, you will find that, in it's context where it is saying this, that it is either a human being saying this about God, or it is God trying to separate and distinguish Himself from all the other false gods, or fallen angels being worshipped as gods, in the OT.

God Bless.
 
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Where in scripture does it say that they are "one being" specifically?
I'm familiar with where it sometimes says God is "one", but not "one being" or "same person" specifically. And this part of the problem with classical church teachings that are only "the doctrines or teachings or overeachings" of what are only "the doctrines and teachings of men", etc.
God Bless.
God is one. (Dt 6:4)

Not to mention Mk 12:29, Mk 12:32, Ro 3:30, 1 Co 8:4, 1 Co 8:6, Gal 3:20, Eph 4:6, 1 Tim 2:5, Jas 2:9.

God is three separate persons in one Being, both the Son (Jn 8:42, 1Jn 6:27-28, Jn 17:8) and the Holy Spirit coming from within the Father (Jn 15:26).

Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not the same person, they are three separate persons in one Being, God.
 
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God is one. (Dt 6:4)

Not to mention Mk 12:29, Mk 12:32, Ro 3:30, 1 Co 8:4, 1 Co 8:6, Gal 3:20, Eph 4:6, 1 Tim 2:5, Jas 2:9.

God is three separate persons in one Being, both the Son (Jn 8:42, 1Jn 6:27-28, Jn 17:8) and the Holy Spirit coming from within the Father (Jn 15:26).

Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not the same person, they are three separate persons in one Being, God.
I don't think any of those say that God the Father and God the Son and God the Spirit are "one being", but "whatever".

You would do well to look up some of the context of some of those Bible verses as well, and pay careful attention to what else is being said, and who is speaking, instead of just doing a key word search on the internet, or your favorite Bible program, etc.

Also "person" and "being" are also the same thing also, so you are contradicting yourself also.

God Bless.
 
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I don't think any of those say that God the Father and God the Son and God the Spirit are "one being", but "whatever".
That is what "One" means. God is one (Dt 6:4).
You would do well to look up some of the context of some of those Bible verses as well, and pay careful attention to what else is being said, and who is speaking, instead of just doing a key word search on the internet, or your favorite Bible program, etc.
Please show how the context of any of them alters the fact that God is one.
Also "person" and "being" are also the same thing also, so you are contradicting yourself also.

God Bless.
Beings are everything that exists, including persons.

In the human realm, one person is one being.

In the divine realm, three persons are one being.
 
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getcha someone who can edit your stuff who’s at least relatively expert in English grammar and syntax. As it sits, from an English standpoint it’s a hot mess.
Right now your doctrine is the least of your worries. As it’s structured now it’s simply unreadable.
 
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getcha someone who can edit your stuff who’s at least relatively expert in English grammar and syntax. As it sits, from an English standpoint it’s a hot mess.
Right now your doctrine is the least of your worries. As it’s structured now it’s simply unreadable.
I thank you for this response, and yes I am well aware of the way I write my very rough drafts right now, but I want to figure it all out and get it all down first, then I will go back and correct a lot of grammar, and make it much more easily readable, and maybe get some help doing that, etc.

I greatly appreciate this response.

It is useful to me.

God Bless.
 
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Both with enough mistakes not to throw stones.
I was not throwing stones. I was commenting on the draft of the OPs book - and the attitude that "this is the truth; everyone else is wrong."

What mistakes have I made?
 
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