standards compliant web site designs?

[superfly]

do you create standards compliant web sites?
do you know what the standards are?
do you want to know more about standards?

i'm just sticking a nose out to find out how many people here are sticking to standards...

if you do want to know more, i've written a paper on standards compliant web design. pm and i'll send you the url.

 

[JordanF]

do you create standards compliant web sites?

Sometimes I comply with W3C standards, but other times I don't. As long as it works in browsers I don't really care. W3C compliance is not necessary.

do you know what the standards are?

Yes

do you want to know more about standards?

No

 

[Niz]

1- I usually do create basic layouts and such. My difintion of a "basic" layout is mainly CSS and such. Not overloading with gfx.
2- Yes
3- Nope

 

[mfarley]

Sometimes I comply with W3C standards, but other times I don't. As long as it works in browsers I don't really care. W3C compliance is not necessary.

I agree, not necessary. I have spent many hours reading xhtml and css compliance pages on W3C and decided as long as it works I don't care. I don't have a professional site so I use Mambo's WYSIWYG editor most times for my blog as it's just easier.

I've tried strict compliance in the past and the results were not that noticable for my little site so I said forget it.

 

[Megaduck]

I use W3C compliant standards with my sites. I have found using the standards to be quite benefical, for one it helps to make sure that each browser will display the best result, since they rely on standards... and b/c I'm a freelance web designer... if I didn't what good would I be

If you want to PM me that link, I'd would love to read it.. I love reading web-related content.

God Bless,
Justin.

 

[mfarley]

I use W3C compliant standards with my sites...for one it helps to make sure that each browser will display the best result, since they rely on standards...

But do they? I have just written a CSS compliant set of pages for a new site with no tables just divs, and yet I get Opera giving more space on the right side of the page on a float:right attribute then FF or IE7. Granted that's not a biggie, I'm just trying to say even a fully compliant page can display differently in various browsers, w3c compliance doesn't equate to identical formatting amongst the browsers.

 

[Megaduck]

But do they? I have just written a CSS compliant set of pages for a new site with no tables just divs, and yet I get Opera giving more space on the right side of the page on a float:right attribute then FF or IE7. Granted that's not a biggie, I'm just trying to say even a fully compliant page can display differently in various browsers, w3c compliance doesn't equate to identical formatting amongst the browsers.

That's not what I said at all. I said "best result" not "identical". In other words, W3C standards help the browser display your site at its best.... of course every browser won't display the same, but w/o standards, the results could be displayed a lot worse than you described for your site in one browser compared to another.

God Bless,
Justin.

 

[mfarley]

Certianly I agree with you there and you're right, I did at first take your post as an attempt at saying standards compliance equates to identical formatting amongst the browsers. After re-reading I do see that that's not what you said. =)

 

[museltof]

I am now an experienced webmaster and have written hundreds (if not thousands) of html pages. Strict compliance is not necessary but you should test any more unusual page on Firefox since that tells you how it will figure on Macs too. If a page works fine on IE+5 plus Firefox 1.0, I don't worry any further.

I used to use those html validation things and they are certainly great for beginners but, really, as long as things are working on several browsers there is little point in worrying.

Museltof
www.ukapologetics.net/

 

[superfly]

those of you who don't use standards with your site, you should try "viewing" your site with a screen reader (for blind people) or on a cellphone. or try making a "printer friendly" page. if you use standards you just code once, and it works everywhere. it also make business sense. besides, the standards have been in place since 1999, so those who aren't using them are just plain lazy.

 

[RRavens]

those of you who don't use standards with your site, you should try "viewing" your site with a screen reader (for blind people) or on a cellphone. or try making a "printer friendly" page. if you use standards you just code once, and it works everywhere.

Here here, I used to not care so much - just as long as it looked good in most common browsers. However this is effectively preventing some people with disabilities or less common browsers from viewing a site properly.

Web developers need to be honing skills for the future, not just accepting what works now on computer displays. For this reason I am slowly try to learn more about standards so I can eventually develop compliant web site designs.

 

[TheJosher]

do you create standards compliant web sites?
do you know what the standards are?
do you want to know more about standards?

i'm just sticking a nose out to find out how many people here are sticking to standards...

if you do want to know more, i've written a paper on standards compliant web design. pm and i'll send you the url.

Yes I do XHTML and CSS all the way baby!
Yup yup.
Eh.. pretty much know all I need to.

If anybody wants to learn more about XHTML and CSS, a great way to learn (for me anyway) is be learning from others.. and thats what oswd.org is about. A bunch of people have submitted templates and stuff, and it really helped me learn CSS.

Josh

 

[RRavens]

Yes I do XHTML and CSS all the way baby!
Yup yup.
Eh.. pretty much know all I need to.

If anybody wants to learn more about XHTML and CSS, a great way to learn (for me anyway) is be learning from others.. and thats what oswd.org is about.

Josh

Thanks Josh, I'll check it out.