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St. Anthonys' Monastery Exposed

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Perhaps some of you guys meant well, but your responses to Euthymios is not very helpful to someone in his situation.
I'm sure a lot of our responses would have been different had we been informed from the outset that it was HIS situation. I'm the kind of person who takes people at their word and he initially presented the issue as from a third person, thus giving reason to doubt his knowledge of the circumstances.
 
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I agree with a lot of this here. I've had a couple of Orthodox priests behave VERY rudely to me, and sometimes I get the feeling that some feel a sense of entitlement in their speech, that they can say whatever they want simply because they're "spiritual fathers," etc. When I was a Catholic, I raised an eyebrow at things like this, and I think as an Orthodox, I still do. I start to wonder sometimes about it.

Perhaps some of you guys meant well, but your responses to Euthymios is not very helpful to someone in his situation.

Euthymios, the internet is not the best place to seek out counsel on any such subjects or issues like the one you brought up. The anonyminity of the internet is a temptation for people with issues to hide behind. What you see here is not representative of world wide Orthodoxy, so please don't take a few quirky responses on such fora as this as indicative of worldwide Orthodoxy.
I do agree with you that some converts do engage in some of the behaviors you mentioned, especially the insidious disease of clericalism. The clergy (any given clergy person, including lay monastics) are put up on such a high pedestal. They act as if they are the only members of the Church with any worthwhile chrism so to speak, and can do and say no wrong (the following statement may upset some of people here), but the strange focus on Fr Seraphim is a good example of what I'm talking about. I personally like Fr Seraphim, his writings were very helpful to me as an Orthodox Christian, but he was not right on everything he said. I agree with you on that Euthymios.
If I would to give any suggestion, it would be to not come on the internet to try to come to some resolution to any problems or issues you are having.
 
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Actually this explains why the monks would want to get rid of him. . Explains why the old calendarist priest told him to go to the new calendarists. Can we pass him off to oc.net?

The remarkable thing about St. Anthony's is how few complaints it recieves.
Its usually some greek parent who are upset that there one and only son decided to be a monk or some protestant parents that have no idea about monasticm, or some newbie to Orthodoxy who thought he would attain super mystical powers akin to witchcraft by joining the monastery.
 
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Nothing I said in the video was a slander. If you are going to assert slander, then you need to give and argument for why that assertion should be believed. Slander is committed when a person states a lie. No lie was made in the video. The thing that concerns me about the people commenting, is that they don't even seem capable of thinking outside the box, by atleast contemplating the possibility that the accusation is true.



Totally irrelevant.

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Its usually some greek parent who are upset that there one and only son decided to be a monk or some protestant parents that have no idea about monasticm, or some newbie to Orthodoxy who thought he would attain super mystical powers akin to witchcraft by joining the monastery.

you also have the folk who go to confession, then refuse to do the penance, which can incur a harsher penance for disobedience, and then they complain about the harsher penance, which they never would have done had they been obedient in the first place
 
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Yup, they do get some flack when they tell Orthodox couples that they should live apart (or celibate) until they go through the Church sacrament of Marriage and to not believe their civil union accomplished the same thing. Some modernists have complained about that.
 
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