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If I was in heaven, I'd let you know. Meanwhile, we are in the sin state here, I haven't met the perfect folks yet. Nor become one.
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If I was in heaven, I'd let you know. Meanwhile, we are in the sin state here, I haven't met the perfect folks yet. Nor become one.So how do people like you fit into that mold, Dad?
Unfortunately, if you're Marilyn Monroe forced to get it on with the likes of you out of some sense of obligation (being sweet and non-judgemental in heaven, as people are), the prison-honeymoon comparison does get somewhat muddled.
So far your main point was the seismic waves, and I dealt with it. The inner earth stands as unknown.
Not really. No one is forced. And if there is sex there, one would no more be forced to engage in it, than one would be force fed. Ridiculous.
Even to you.
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Well, I would also be honor bound, I suppose if she either wasn't available, or interested..etc. Good will all round.I didn't mean to indicate that you would FORCE her, I was merely commenting that if Marilyn was somehow honor-bound to be nice enough to you to give you a "roll in the New Jerusalem Hay", it probably wouldn't be as much fun for her as it would for you. I admit I stated it poorly. Mea culpa.
God is uncorruptable, and the spiritual also, forever state is also just not going to corrupt, and pass away. Neither will the earth, at least the inner earth go anywhere. It is fireproof, and when the temporal, cursed, surface junk is burned off, a gorgeous, eternal earth will be unveiled. Global warming? You ain't seen nothing yet! Forget about a hot core, it is the suface that will burn, baby, burn.
I would think that is exactly what He did do. Adam was to live forever, if you recall. The fall of man, and subsequent decent of man, seems to have made a temporary state necessary.Why didn't god just make the incorruptible forever state from the off and save a lot of heartache? ...
I would think that is exactly what He did do. Adam was to live forever, if you recall. The fall of man, and subsequent decent of man, seems to have made a temporary state necessary.
The state wasn't incorruptible then, was it?
In the future state, could a person (or whatever term you use in the new state to refer to individuals that are people in the current state) cause corruption again? If not, why not?
No. The experiment was time limited. God has heaven planned, and eternal life. God was the One that created, and made the present state. Free will will have run it's course to the logical conclusions, whether back to God, or further away from Him, to outer darkness.
Prophesy, based on a belief in the present laws applying.
Yes. And I agree with it. But as we get closer to the day of the Lord, and new heaven state, the clock will be ticking on the days of this state. Therefore, your prophesy is time limited, and only applies to the present state. There will come a time when it will be known that the next day will not see the sun rise in the east. And even if the sun still had the same pattern of setting and rising, it would be in a changed universe state, so it would not be the sun as we know it.So, would "The sun is going to rise in the East and set in the West tomorrow," also be prophecy based on belief in present laws applying?
People's will will have been put either on God's side, or against. Once our will is harmonious with God's, we will not want to have this hell again. In the earlier time, Some spirits did rebel, and of course man followed suit. All the results we see are here for a good reason, I suspect. To clearly illustrate that going against God leads to hell, suffering, death, horrors, etc.Are you saying there's no free will in the future state?
Already answered in above post.You haven't really answered my question about why god didn't just make the future state you believe in from the start. You said he did, but it was corrupted by people (or one person, anyway). If the state could be corrupted then, why couldn't it be corrupted in the future?
Where is the outer darkness in relation to the bits of the new state reserved for you and Marilyn etc? Will you be able to see the people, spirits, whatever they are, in the outer darkness? Is communication possible between the individuals in the outer darkness and those living with you and Marilyn?
Speculation. I am sure all the gals will be lovely there.By the way, are you sure Marilyn Monroe went to Heaven, or is it just speculation?
Yes. And I agree with it. But as we get closer to the day of the Lord, and new heaven state, the clock will be ticking on the days of this state. Therefore, your prophesy is time limited, and only applies to the present state. There will come a time when it will be known that the next day will not see the sun rise in the east. And even if the sun still had the same pattern of setting and rising, it would be in a changed universe state, so it would not be the sun as we know it.
I heard one doctor say that it is likely that the universe will revolve around New Jerusalem, maybe even the earth as well.
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I'm going to give you a bonus, 2 for 1 prophecy on that one:
- This "doctor" has access to psychotropic medications.
- He's been dipping into his own stash.
Well, actually, one should not assume that he is alone at arriving at the obvious, most of the time. Especially when Christians have a common cheat sheet, called the bible, that has the answers.'Twasn't me! It was someone else! I swear!
Well, actually, one should not assume that he is alone at arriving at the obvious, most of the time. Especially when Christians have a common cheat sheet, called the bible, that has the answers.
Well, we can let the lurkers decide. Here is the link, listen for yourself, and see if you think the guy was on psychotropic medications.
http://throughthebible.ca/zip/66_rev.zip
Just go to the last 2 chapters in the download, and listen. You will find that the idea is given, that New Jerusalem will be the center of the universe, in every way. I don't make this stuff up.
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