About 8 years ago,a man presented a theory. When God gave Moses the tablets,he broke them off from His throne and wrote the commandments on them.Any comments on this?
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Something intresting I just heard.
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Then I bet He was furious when Moses slammed them down and broke them!
Actually, I already know He was. Imagine doing that out of anger. But Moses was definitely hot-headed at times.
Actually, I already know He was. Imagine doing that out of anger. But Moses was definitely hot-headed at times.
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this is the first time i have herd of that but the bible says stone and gons throne is made of something else i suppose.
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It's actually a very fascinating study. Dwight Nelson did a sermon on it.
You can listen to it here, for free: http://www.pmchurch.tv/transaction_detail.php?id=212
Just click on 'free MP3'.
Enjoy
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It's actually a very fascinating study. Dwight Nelson did a sermon on it.
You can listen to it here, for free: http://www.pmchurch.tv/transaction_detail.php?id=212
Just click on 'free MP3'.
Enjoy
Thanks Woob!
Wow!
Jon
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If you go to Ex. 34:1, you will find Gods instructions to Moses after he broke the first tablets in anger when he returned from Mount Siani to find the people worshiping the golden calf.
While the "Blue Sapphire" is a most interesting presentation, I think it best to keep everything in context.
Respectufully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
This text clearly indicates Moses hewed (carved) both the first and the second set of tables and they were just alike complete with God writing he same words on both sets.
While the "Blue Sapphire" is a most interesting presentation, I think it best to keep everything in context.
Respectufully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
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Come to think of it, does likeness really = sameness?
This is how the first account reads:
"And He gave to Moses, when He had made an end of speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God."
(Exo 31:18)
Here we see that God gave Moses the tablets of the testimony, as they were already complete.
But in the verse you had quoted it doesn't indicate this:
"And Jehovah said to Moses, Cut out two tablets of stone like the first. And I will write upon the tablets the words that were in the first tablets which you broke."
(Exo 34:1)
Here Moses was given instruction to cut out two tablets of stone himself, whereas before God gave them to him.
Could it be that the first tablets were of sapphire, while the second set was merely of rock?
I think it is worthy of further investigation.
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Hi Woobadooba,
From your post; "Here Moses was given instruction to cut out two tablets of stone himself, whereas before God gave them to him.
Could it be that the first tablets were of sapphire, while the second set was merely of rock?
I think it is worthy of further investigation."
This is not the first time that I've heard about the "Blue Sapphire," and I will readly agree that it is somthing that is a most interesting study. However some rather well known scholars used the following reasoning; The Ark of the Covenant was the seat of God [the Mercy Seat] here on earth. Once the Ark was competed, dedicated, and installed in the Temple, no one except the high priest could even touch it without beng struck dead. This included Moses. Therefore if a litteral piece of God's Heavenly Throne had been given/handed to Moses, Moses would have been struck dead also if he were to have touched it. As I said, a most interesting study.
Your brother in Christ,
Doc
From your post; "Here Moses was given instruction to cut out two tablets of stone himself, whereas before God gave them to him.
Could it be that the first tablets were of sapphire, while the second set was merely of rock?
I think it is worthy of further investigation."
This is not the first time that I've heard about the "Blue Sapphire," and I will readly agree that it is somthing that is a most interesting study. However some rather well known scholars used the following reasoning; The Ark of the Covenant was the seat of God [the Mercy Seat] here on earth. Once the Ark was competed, dedicated, and installed in the Temple, no one except the high priest could even touch it without beng struck dead. This included Moses. Therefore if a litteral piece of God's Heavenly Throne had been given/handed to Moses, Moses would have been struck dead also if he were to have touched it. As I said, a most interesting study.
Your brother in Christ,
Doc
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By the same token, boundaries were set up around the mount because if anyone even touched the mountain they would be put to death. Thus suggesting that no one but those whom God invites are allowed to enter into His presence. Ex. 19:12-13
Nevertheless, certain people were allowed to go up into the mountain; yet, only Moses was permitted to stand within the presence of God. Ex. 24:1-2
So even though your argument has merit, it may not apply here, because Moses was able to withstand the presence of God, so much that he was able to go where no other was able to without dying.
Thus this tells me that just as the Lord was capable of enabling Moses to stand near Him without dying, it also means that God could just as easily allow Moses to carry tablets that were taken from His throne, without being consumed by them.
Again, this matter is worthy of further investigation.
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Hi Woobadooba,
Please note that my last post was not offered as my arguement. It was simply ment to offer some past thinking on this topic. Your points are well taken. As I said, a most interesting study.
Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
Please note that my last post was not offered as my arguement. It was simply ment to offer some past thinking on this topic. Your points are well taken. As I said, a most interesting study.
Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
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djconklin
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"Blue Sapphire has long symbolized truth, sincerity, and faithfulness. Tradition holds that Moses was given the Ten Commandments on tablets of sapphire, making it the most sacred gemstone."
found at http://www.simplysapphires.com/html/bluelore.html
found at http://www.simplysapphires.com/html/bluelore.html
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EX 24
9Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: 10And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. (What color is the cloudless sky? What color is sapphire?)
11And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
12And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
The foundation of God's government is His law. He stands on His law, if you will. Here in v. 10 we see God standing on blue sapphire stone. In v. 12 He gives Moses stone tablets of His law. Is there not a link between the two?
9Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: 10And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. (What color is the cloudless sky? What color is sapphire?)
11And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
12And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
The foundation of God's government is His law. He stands on His law, if you will. Here in v. 10 we see God standing on blue sapphire stone. In v. 12 He gives Moses stone tablets of His law. Is there not a link between the two?
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