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Something coming from nothing? Evolution vs. Creation

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Oh you can worship "mother nature". But a bear will eat it's own children and then rip you into little pieces, like it did that researcher and his girlfriend a few years back. Or you may die during birth or have a brain hemorage this afternoon.

That's not the God I prefer to converse with. This natural world is not a place we are happy with. With good reason.


Heck, you could make an inadvertent comment to a prophet of God and have the same thing happen.
 
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Oh you can worship "mother nature". But a bear will eat it's own children and then rip you into little pieces, like it did that researcher and his girlfriend a few years back. Or you may die during birth or have a brain hemorage this afternoon.

That's not the God I prefer to converse with. This natural world is not a place we are happy with. With good reason.

I don't worship nature, I don't worship at all. And just because nature isn't pretty, or fair, or likable in your opinion doesn't change the reality.

Thousands upon thousands of babies die before they can even speak their first word every year, this seems more like a cruel, unfeeling nature than something a supposed all powerful and benevolent being would allow.
 
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The fine tuning argument assumes that there is only one universe which has no evidence.

But at this point in time we are dealing with our reality. We cant see any other universes or dimensions and we will never be able to. These hypothesis are devised to deal with our reality because it is fine tuned for life as we know it. Not life in another dimension or for an anythings possible scenario. The anythings possible hypothesis cant be argued against either because it allows for anything possible. In fact with sciences own criteria it goes against how they view evidence in the first place.
 
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