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Some wrong ideas about life

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Yes, some people thrive in our society, and flourish, so they can do as they want, others seek more contact with others, and struggle, but what I want until tonight then, are some basic beliefs that do not hold true in society, for example that the eyes only pretend to show a soul, produced by a brain, and there is no soul, even if science says it is real too, and you are only a brain, so that you can challenge each other a little, nothing is real according to most people, so it doesn't matter, I want to challenge this a bit, because people get unhappy with such nonsense, you never get confirmation that you are a real person, the thing is, some kids are born without a brain, they have only the brainstem, it is not part of the brain itself, the brain sits on top like an organ, but you don't actually need this to live, personality, feelings, needs,and so on, sitting in the brain stem, as shown in the picture below, it is somewhat well ingrained in society that you are a brain, because then you are also more primitive and can challenge each other, and nothing is real,

the brain was created to fill the void in the skull and circulate blood, and then it started making hormones that make us feel good, that's why cannibals don't think it was disgusting to eat this organ either, because it wasn't the person itself, the brainstem, your soul then, is more like a muscle, it is what makes you have the power to control a body too, a brain that just sits on top only gets sent signals, and would never have the power to move anything, the brainstem follows the entire spine, almost like a vertebrate, it is what makes you have the power to move, the reason why different areas of the brain light up when you do different things is because it is a very complex machinery to make hormones, there are different compositions based on what you do, that is why you often feel better at a young age than later,because the hormones are new to you, it decreases a little in effect based on the fact that you age, if you are a native who lives in the forest naturally all your life, then the hormones will always feel good, but if you live in a society where your body ages more, then diminishes this effect a little as I said, it is what makes you go bald, look older, get cancer, and so on, because when you hold on to something psychological like a system, or society, the body weakens,

the soul is not made of DNA either, consciousness is transferred from life to life in a different way, DNA was created because, even if the soul maintains the whole body, it would be too difficult to do it with all cells, so DNA was invented to do maintenance of cells automatically, that is why cancer sometimes also occurs in cells, because it happens automatically, there is a general weakening of the body before cancer occurs, it goes beyond the weakest part of the body, say you smoke, then it happens beyond the lungs first if you are a little weakened, it may be that you find more uses for the brain than just circulating blood and making hormones, but that is currently my best theory, because there are actually children completely without a brain and they have personality, eat , moving, laughing, smiling, showing emotions, and so on, some would say that these are primal functions then,so that's why it's in the brain stem, but you can't avoid the fact that some people don't have a brain at all, and yet it works, they usually have some diseases that make life more difficult, since it often follows when development doesn't happen normally , like getting a brain, but it must not be confused with what it is actually for, people will spend thousands of years trying to figure out what the brain is for, and make theories out of nothing based on what a person does in a situation , and then end up with nothing, but that's the way of life for some, don't be one of them, my own gut told me I wasn't a brain, so I tried to figure it out for myself, and it gave me a lot , I've always known that I'm real and alive and have a soul and my eyes are the window to the soul, they don't pretend to be anything :)

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I read an article about a rape victim having a baby with that exact problem just because she found out after the 24th week she was pregnant. Why so late? Because the fetus only had a brain stem to stay alive.


The doctor came to us and spread the ultrasound pictures across the table. She pointed to darkness where gray brain matter ought to be. She called it hydranencephaly, a congenital defect in which the brain fails to develop either cerebral hemisphere, instead filling with cerebrospinal fluid. The fetus continued to experience development because the brain stem was still intact, but she would be born blind, deaf, completely cognitively stunted, prone to seizures, diabetes insipidus, insomnia, hypothermia and more. The list of every agonizing disorder she would suffer was tremendous.

“This condition is not compatible with life,” she said with the sort of neutrality someone uses when they are a spectator to disaster.

I posted this article several times on CF and never got an answer for why forcing the rape baby to suffer constantly for about two years when everyone knew she would die at a very young age. When the obstetrician says abortion is the only humane solution, there is no reason not to do it. The fact she was a rape baby obviously meant she never should have been conceived in the first place, and therefore was not a child of God, just another human being whose only reason to live was Satanic. She would not have been born if her mother could move to a pro-woman state where abortions are legal after 24 weeks at age 17 - which, of course, nobody can expect to be possible. I will never stop asking the question until I get undeniable proof from other CF members constant suffering is more humane for any baby like her than painless euthanasia in utero.
 
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I read an article about a rape victim having a baby with that exact problem just because she found out after the 24th week she was pregnant. Why so late? Because the fetus only had a brain stem to stay alive.




I posted this article several times on CF and never got an answer for why forcing the rape baby to suffer constantly for about two years when everyone knew she would die at a very young age. When the obstetrician says abortion is the only humane solution, there is no reason not to do it. The fact she was a rape baby obviously meant she never should have been conceived in the first place, and therefore was not a child of God, just another human being whose only reason to live was Satanic. She would not have been born if her mother could move to a pro-woman state where abortions are legal after 24 weeks.
A mother`s love, you know, she probably cared for it as long as it lived, if children were only a brain, no mother would have cared, it`s the soul, that makes the difference, in the brain-stem, or it
 
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I read an article about a rape victim having a baby with that exact problem just because she found out after the 24th week she was pregnant. Why so late? Because the fetus only had a brain stem to stay alive.




I posted this article several times on CF and never got an answer for why forcing the rape baby to suffer constantly for about two years when everyone knew she would die at a very young age. When the obstetrician says abortion is the only humane solution, there is no reason not to do it. The fact she was a rape baby obviously meant she never should have been conceived in the first place, and therefore was not a child of God, just another human being whose only reason to live was Satanic. She would not have been born if her mother could move to a pro-woman state where abortions are legal after 24 weeks at age 17 - which, of course, nobody can expect to be possible. I will never stop asking the question until I get undeniable proof from other CF members constant suffering is more humane for any baby like her than painless euthanasia in utero.

It`s a mistake doctors usually make, is to be, pessimistic, and terminate life, a mother knows better
 
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A mother`s love, you know, she probably cared for it as long as it lived. if children were only a brain, no mother would have cared. it`s the soul, that makes the difference, in the brain-stem, or it.

The soul is in the heart, not the brain. Not everyone believes in souls.

Did you notice the headline expresses clear regret she cared for her first child? She really did not want to take care of a fatally defective rape baby.

Try again.
 
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Regardless of the horrendous circumstances of this baby's life; even mutually conceived children can have encephalitis too. So no, it's not a "satan baby".

Genesis says that the "breath of life" which comes from God is what makes one a "living soul". Satan can not give the breath of life. Anything that is alive is not so because of satan.

So where exactly the soul is in the body; I do't think has ever been determined. It is within (or determined upon) what ever "the breath of life" operated upon that organisms "life receptacle". All that controls the animation of a being comes from the brain. So is the "life receptacle" in the brain? That seems logical given the heart transplant element of the question. But it also could well be that the soul which is the recipient of the breath of life which is made "living" isn't actually a material part of the body.

Maybe the soul ls like the thoughts. They originate from the individual and we know their material formation comes from chemicals in the brain, but we can't catch a thought in a petri dish. We can only experience it by being relayed by it's "creator".
 
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What I meant was the conception was Satanic, since she was a rape baby, and the fact she was forced to be born against the will of her mother was Satanic because it was dictated by misogynistic men (Republican politicians). She would not have existed without sin. She would not have been born without sin.

Htydroencephaly eliminates the possibility of the soul being in the brain if everyone is born with a soul. For the soul to be in the brain, people like that rape baby must be children of Satan because there is no brain to house a soul in. Is it in the brain stem? I do not think so because it is just the connector between the brain and the spine, not a seat of emotions. But the heart transplant recipient issue is worth thinking about.
 
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the brain was created to fill the void in the skull and circulate blood, and then it started making hormones that make us feel good,
This is an idiotic position to take and somewhat familiar. Have you posted this rubbish before?
 
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I will never stop asking the question until I get undeniable proof from other CF members constant suffering is more humane for any baby like her than painless euthanasia in utero.
I think you might find that some CF members would consider the rape baby with no brain and painful short life a gift from God.
 
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Htydroencephaly eliminates the possibility of the soul being in the brain if everyone is born with a soul.
Hydrocephaly doesn't eliminate the possibility of one having a soul because everyone who's alive has a soul. and that's what I mean by I don't think the soul is a "material thing" such as your brain, bones or liver. It's part of a component of life that we don't have a means to measure; therefore what exactly it is, we can't "find". (Or at least not with material medical instruments.)

Now I worked with all sorts of people who'd had hydrocephaly. It simply means "swelling of the brain" for what ever reason. And sometimes it's not the brain as a whole that swells; but parts of it that prevent the growth of other parts. There's a lot of things that can go wrong in brain development And there are some things that seem pretty minor but can cause grave disability. (Like malformed blood vessels that cause seizures.

The question of ethics becomes what is the value of that life? Does it have intrinsic value because it's a living being; or only value based on the perception of what it's contribution to society could be? A baby in the state described in this article lis likely to die relatively soon after birth. So maybe it had the experience of life for two months and then it's gone. The being itself based on it's own capacity to understand what it's like to be alive only knows what that means. That is true regardless of what it costs the people around it to care for it for two months. Does one offer palatable care that the child can pass with minimal struggle? Those are all questions of ethics and the value of human life.

Are there times when it's appropriate to end one life to save another. Yes there are. Although sometimes the choice to do so are harder than others.
 
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This is an idiotic position to take and somewhat familiar. Have you posted this rubbish before?

He has. He has a thread titled 'The destiny of bruce willis' (spelling is accurate) where he makes the claim that people can live without brains because brains are unnecessary.
 
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I think you might find that some CF members would consider the rape baby with no brain and painful short life a gift from God.

Obviously no rape baby is a gift from God because rape is a sin. She came from Satan because of how she was conceived.

Her birth also was Satanic because a state law based on rich men's hatred of pregnant teenagers forced it on her.

Where does the Bible say rape babies with zero chance of long-term survival are gifts from God?
 
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Two thirds of pregnancies end in miscarriages.
Is that a current stat; since 2021? I know all cause mortality is up by like 40% globally. (Since 2021!)
 
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Its 10 to 20 percent that end in miscarriage.

Miscarriage - Symptoms and causes

You did not even read your own link.

Miscarriage is the spontaneous loss of a pregnancy before the 20th week. About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher because many miscarriages occur very early in pregnancy before you might even know about a pregnancy.

Or do you think zygotes, blastocysts, and most embryos are not human beings? Many women find out they were pregnant when they have miscarriages. For God to not be the world's top killer of human beings, zygotes belonging to the species homo sapiens must not be humans.
 
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Where does the Bible say rape babies with zero chance of long-term survival are gifts from God?
Where in the Bible does it say rape is a sin? As long as you marry the woman and pay off the dad you’re golden. The Bible even says how much should be paid.
 
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