Some wrong ideas about life

[Larniavc]

Where does the Bible say rape babies with zero chance of long-term survival are gifts from God?

I didn’t say it was in the Bible. But that is what many very public Christians have stated.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

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The biggest wrong idea about life, is to believe there is no God and to not trust in Jesus (God incarnate) for Eternal Life.

sometimes i sift through all the responses, i get tired of long answers and it's refreshing to see such a short and concise response such as this one.

Thank you.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Where in the Bible does it say rape is a sin? As long as you marry the woman and pay off the dad you’re golden. The Bible even says how much should be paid.

Usually (including in the specific case I am talking about), the parents are not married to each other. I know the Bible is very clear having sex with anyone except your husband or wife is a sin.

You conveniently avoided answering the part about that rape baby having no capability of doing anything to love and serve God because she had no brain.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I didn’t say it was in the Bible. But that is what many very public Christians have stated.

Very public Christians could have made it up. I need to see in the Bible fatally defective rape babies are gifts from God.

We all know God makes people for His purposes. If a child does not have a brain, obviously he or she cannot even know and love Him, much less serve the Creator. She was doomed to live less than an extremely short, miserable life and be nothing but trouble.

 

[Larniavc]

You conveniently avoided answering the part about that rape baby having no capability of doing anything to love and serve God because she had no brain.

Remind me where you wrote that?

 

[Larniavc]

She was doomed to live less than an extremely short, miserable life and be nothing but trouble.

Yet God still chose to create them.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Yet God still chose to create them.

For what purpose? It is all bad and no good when a fatally defective rape baby is born just because the state government forced her to live.

 

[Larniavc]

For what purpose? It is all bad and no good when a fatally defective rape baby is born just because the state government forced her to live.

That's a question for the Christians who banned abortions.

 

[GodLovesCats]

That's a question for the Christians who banned abortions.

Any Christian who reads the Bible can answer it, not just Christian politicians whose only goal is to make rape victims suffer the rest of their lives.

 

[Larniavc]

Any Christian who reads the Bible can answer it, not just Christian politicians whose only goal is to make rape victims suffer the rest of their lives.

I fully agree. But after being on this site for many year I seen many Christian posters stating abortion is always wrong.

 

[Hans Blaster]

He has. He has a thread titled 'The destiny of bruce willis' (spelling is accurate) where he makes the claim that people can live without brains because brains are unnecessary.

The title of this thread very accurately describes the contents of the OP (as well as the OPs for those other threads). I'm sure that is unintented as the OPer has only ever posted "wrong ideas about life".

 

[GodLovesCats]

I fully agree. But after being on this site for many years I have seen many Christian posters stating abortion is always wrong.

None of those people know human embryology. They claim an embryo is able to think and feel pain. Not true - those abilities start to develop during the fetal stage. They claim an embryo has a heartbeat at 6 weeks. At that age, the embryo does not even have a heart yet. They claim the "morning after pill" (Plan B) was invented to kill zygotes and call it an abortion pill, but in reality if that happens, the girl or woman just took it too late. They also do not know when most pregnant girls and women learn about their pregnancies, which according to obstetricians, is after six weeks.

The same people who spout these debunked lies insist whether rape and incest victims give birth or not makes no difference psychologically. The story I posted disproves that nonsense - along with many others. Also, they choose to totally ignore the fact that all late-term abortions had to be done for medical reasons. Everything they say about abortion always being wrong is either a lie or based on deliberate ignorance of the subject. I am still waiting for Christians to prove me wrong about all rape babies, incest babies, and fatally defective babies being gifts from God and obstetricians wrong that our God kills millions of unborn human beings every year. All anti-choicers want to do is spout the same old emotional lies to shove their beliefs with no basis down my throat.

I may get suspended for saying all this, but if I do, at least I have done my job. It is extremely important that everyone knows the proven facts about embryology and abortion prior to the second trimester because during that time period, nobody is harmed. Christians have to do all of the medical research themselves because I can't convince them I am right and they are wrong while wearing the Democrat label. They must take responsibility and do all their homework on the issue from totally secular websites about the science of pregnancy and stop acting like they know more than American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology (ACOG) doctors, who are overwhelmingly pro-choice prior to fetal viability.

 

[GodLovesCats]

To all of the anti-abortion Christians reading this, I want to make something very clear: I am NOT pro-abortion without limits. I only support necessary abortions. My desire is for every pregnant girl and woman to get everything she needs to avoid needing an abortion. But unlike all of the anti-choicers out there, I also believe quality of life is more important than quantity on an already-overpopulated planet, so cases like the one I posted must be permissible reasons to have abortions during the third trimester.

Jesus taught us to do to others what we would have them to do us. So if you don't want someone to force you to be pregnant with a fatally defective fetus, you wish that girl never became a baby. You can't have it both ways.

 

[AV1611VET]

Abortion is murder.

 

[Larniavc]

None of those people know human embryology. They claim an embryo is able to think and feel pain. Not true - those abilities start to develop during the fetal stage. They claim an embryo has a heartbeat at 6 weeks. At that age, the embryo does not even have a heart yet. They claim the "morning after pill" (Plan B) was invented to kill zygotes and call it an abortion pill, but in reality if that happens, the girl or woman just took it too late. They also do not know when most pregnant girls and women learn about their pregnancies, which according to obstetricians, is after six weeks.

The same people who spout these debunked lies insist whether rape and incest victims give birth or not makes no difference psychologically. The story I posted disproves that nonsense - along with many others. Also, they choose to totally ignore the fact that all late-term abortions had to be done for medical reasons. Everything they say about abortion always being wrong is either a lie or based on deliberate ignorance of the subject. I am still waiting for Christians to prove me wrong about all rape babies, incest babies, and fatally defective babies being gifts from God and obstetricians wrong that our God kills millions of unborn human beings every year. All anti-choicers want to do is spout the same old emotional lies to shove their beliefs with no basis down my throat.

I may get suspended for saying all this, but if I do, at least I have done my job. It is extremely important that everyone knows the proven facts about embryology and abortion prior to the second trimester because during that time period, nobody is harmed. Christians have to do all of the medical research themselves because I can't convince them I am right and they are wrong while wearing the Democrat label. They must take responsibility and do all their homework on the issue from totally secular websites about the science of pregnancy and stop acting like they know more than American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology (ACOG) doctors, who are overwhelmingly pro-choice prior to fetal viability.

I am in complete agreement with all of your points.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Abortion is murder.

Quote an d reference a Bible verse Jewish people never read that explicitly bans abortion.

Because Jewish people read the first five books of the Bible and most of them are pro-choice, you can't use Genesis 1 or Exodux 20 to prove your point. It must be a verse after Deuteronomy.

 

[AV1611VET]

Quote an d reference a Bible verse Jewish people never read that explicitly bans abortion.

Because Jewish people read the first five books of the Bible and most of them are pro-choice, you can't use Genesis 1 or Exodux 20 to prove your point. It must be a verse after Deuteronomy.

Do what now???

 

[AV1611VET]

I am still waiting for Christians to prove me wrong about all rape babies, incest babies, and fatally defective babies being gifts from God and obstetricians wrong that our God kills millions of unborn human beings every year.

All other babies are gifts from God though, right?

Were the fatally defective Thalidomide children gifts from God?

 

[GodLovesCats]

All other babies are gifts from God though, right?

Were the fatally defective Thalidomide children gifts from God?

You are trying to move the goalpost. Tell me how a fetus with no brain who was conceived by rape is a gift from God. No whataboutisms allowed - direct answers only.

Healthy fetuses conceived by mutual consent have nothing to do with the question. Neither do any people who are missing body parts because of a drug their moms took during pregnancy that does not exist anymore.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Do what now?

Exactly what I said: quote and reference a Bible verse that explicitly bans abortion after the book of Deuteronomy.