Some Reasons I Don't Believe in Evolution

[Loudmouth]

However, I repeat my question, has any chimp or ape managed to create a wheel to transport things. deliberately strike flint together to start a fire, and then proceed to cook food in a pan, use a potato to make a primitive battery, or design an electrical tool?

This ape has:

 

[Loudmouth]

Just don't call yours "science" and ours "religion".

Why not?

 

[AV1611VET]

However, I repeat my question, has any chimp or ape managed to create a wheel to transport things. deliberately strike flint together to start a fire, and then proceed to cook food in a pan, use a potato to make a primitive battery, or design an electrical tool?

What do you think a monkey wrench is?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why not?

Duplicity.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Why would God design ANY drugs if there was no disease, frailty, imperfection? Isn't it man who, with his flawed logic, knowledge, intentions, formulates drugs? Drugs that are toxic and cause more harm than good?

No sure if serious?!?

Any idea why our average life expectancy is about double what it was just 2-300 years ago? It's them all them "toxic" harm causin' drugs I tells ya'!

 

[Loudmouth]

Duplicity.

Tranesterification.

 

[Loudmouth]

Drugs that are toxic and cause more harm than good?

Then the next time you have a life threatening infection tell the doctor that you are refusing antibiotics. See how that works out for you.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
Why would God design ANY drugs if there was no disease, frailty, imperfection? Isn't it man who, with his flawed logic, knowledge, intentions, formulates drugs? Drugs that are toxic and cause more harm than good?

No sure if serious?!?

Any idea why our average life expectancy is about double what it was just 2-300 years ago? It's them all them "toxic" harm causin' drugs I tells ya'!

Before the fall, life expectancy was non-ending.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
Drugs that are toxic and cause more harm than good?

Then the next time you have a life threatening infection tell the doctor that you are refusing antibiotics. See how that works out for you.

I did. Recently I had gotten a seriously deep puncture wound by something rusty. I got the symptoms of Tetanus and got very ill. I don't have insurance right now, nor money for doctors, medicine, etc. I prayed, had others prayed for me, lifted it up to God, and my leg is healed now. It's not the first time i was healed from a life-threatening illness. I had bacterial pneumonia once, and i was mis-diagnosed by a doctor and given allergy medicine. i went down to 80 lbs and nearly died. God healed me. There have been other times as well.

 

[MariaRegina]

This ape has:

I majored in biology. So....

 

[Doveaman]

What observation, if made, would be inconsistent with a common designer?

Who cares? We know God did it because God did it.

Also, why would an all powerful and all knowing deity with unlimited time and resources need to copy a single design? Humans only copy designs because we lack knowledge, time, and resources.

Or because the design works for our intended purposes.

What you are describing is a designer with all of the flaws that humans have.

The only flaws are in your reasoning.

 

[MariaRegina]

I did. Recently I had gotten a seriously deep puncture wound by something rusty. I got the symptoms of Tetanus and got very ill. I don't have insurance right now, nor money for doctors, medicine, etc. I prayed, had others prayed for me, lifted it up to God, and my leg is healed now. It's not the first time i was healed from a life-threatening illness. I had bacterial pneumonia once, and i was mis-diagnosed by a doctor and given allergy medicine. i went down to 80 lbs and nearly died. God healed me. There have been other times as well.

Praise the Lord.

Yes, miracles do happen, and often doctors have no explanation.

I believe that the creation of man was a miracle, and scientists have yet to explain this.

 

[brinny]

Praise the Lord.

Yes, miracles do happen, and often doctors have no explanation.

I believe that the creation of man was a miracle, and scientists have yet to explain this.

I agree! Amen! Praise His name!!

 

[Loudmouth]

I did. Recently I had gotten a seriously deep puncture wound by something rusty. I got the symptoms of Tetanus and got very ill. I don't have insurance right now, nor money for doctors, medicine, etc. I prayed, had others prayed for me, lifted it up to God, and my leg is healed now. It's not the first time i was healed from a life-threatening illness. I had bacterial pneumonia once, and i was mis-diagnosed by a doctor and given allergy medicine. i went down to 80 lbs and nearly died. God healed me. There have been other times as well.

Then you were very lucky. The reason that we enjoy such long lifespans over our predecessors 100 years ago is primarily due to antibiotics and vaccines. These two alone have nearly doubled life expectancy. In the Civil War amputations were the rule, not the exception. Legs and arms were piled like cord wood outside of the doctor's tent. That is how they got the nickname "Sawbones". Why was this the case? Because they lacked the most rudimentary antibiotics to cure infections.

 

[Loudmouth]

Who cares? We know God did it because God did it.

Then supply the evidence.

Or because the design works for our intended purposes.

Why does this require a nested hierarchy?

Perfect example of what I am talking about. These wheels do not fall into a nested hierarchy.

 

[Skaloop]

Or because the design works for our intended purposes.

We're not constrained by a nested hierarchy the way God appears to be, though.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
I did. Recently I had gotten a seriously deep puncture wound by something rusty. I got the symptoms of Tetanus and got very ill. I don't have insurance right now, nor money for doctors, medicine, etc. I prayed, had others prayed for me, lifted it up to God, and my leg is healed now. It's not the first time i was healed from a life-threatening illness. I had bacterial pneumonia once, and i was mis-diagnosed by a doctor and given allergy medicine. i went down to 80 lbs and nearly died. God healed me. There have been other times as well.

Then you were very lucky. The reason that we enjoy such long lifespans over our predecessors 100 years ago is primarily due to antibiotics and vaccines. These two alone have nearly doubled life expectancy. In the Civil War amputations were the rule, not the exception. Legs and arms were piled like cord wood outside of the doctor's tent. That is how they got the nickname "Sawbones". Why was this the case? Because they lacked the most rudimentary antibiotics to cure infections.

i believe it's God's mercy and grace in my own case. also, that God certainly CAN guide a scientist in formulating life-saving formulas, to bless those who will benefit from it. man, unfortunately, is also flawed and can make tragic errors.

 

[Jazer]

i was experiencing excruciating pain and told God i hated Him amidst a river o' tears. (He has forgiven me, for He knew the extreme angst i was engulfed in).

Do you think it was unjust to have experance that much pain? Was it beyond what you had earned or deserved?

 

[MariaRegina]

Do you think it was unjust to have experance that much pain? Was it beyond what you had earned or deserved?

Why don't you open another thread to discuss this topic? Such a question is certainly off topic to this thread. If you did create a new thread, this forum would not be the one to place such a thread as it concerns only creation and evolution.

 

[mpok1519]

Interesting.
Some places in the Bible refer to men as "beasts".
Would an ape be classified as one?

NKJV) 2 Peter 2:12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,

(NKJV) Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves.

KJV) Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

Beast is simply a word that means "animal". Whatever biblical connotation that has been given to the word isn't reflective of objective scientific taxonomy of species.

But yes, men are "beasts" in the scientific sense since we are within the kingdom of animalia, as well are all apes.