Some Reasons I Don't Believe in Evolution

[Loudmouth]

I worked in a Junk Yard once. We had to learn the rims based on the company that made them. So we grouped Ford Rims together. That made it a lot easier to find when someone was looking for a Rim for their Ford. Then we would divide them in that group according to their size. At the time they were mostly 14 & 15 inches in size.

You can find a Goodyear tire on both a Ford and Chevy rim, and still find a Goodyear and a Cooper tire on two Ford rims. You can even transfer a rim from a Ford and put it on a Chevy. Rims do not fall into a nested hierarchy just like other human designs. There is no reason that humans should make their designs so that they fall into a nested hierarchy. There is absolutely no functional reason that life should into a nested hierarchy.

 

[Zaius137]

“Rims do not fall into a nested hierarchy just like other human designs. There is no reason that humans should make their designs so that they fall into a nested hierarchy. There is absolutely no functional reason that life should into a nested hierarchy.”

Unless you are now a creationist you better explain the following….


&#8220;A phylogenetic tree or evolutionary tree is a branching diagram or "tree" showing the inferred evolutionaryrelationships among various biological species or other entities based upon similarities and differences in their physical and/or genetic characteristics. The taxa joined together in the tree are implied to have descended from acommon ancestor.&#8221;</SPAN>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_tree

 

[Loudmouth]

Unless you are now a creationist you better explain the following….


“Aphylogenetic treeorevolutionary treeis a branching diagram or "tree" showing the inferredevolutionaryrelationships among various biologicalspeciesor other entities based upon similarities and differences in their physical and/or genetic characteristics. The taxa joined together in the tree are implied to have descended from acommon ancestor.”</SPAN>

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_tree"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_tree [/URL]

Your point?

 

[SonOfTheWest]

Yes that is all true.

However the only creation story reaching us from 3362 years ago that still conforms with the facts we now know is Genesis.

Literally, the Big Bang was the beginning of all that has followed.
And there were seven "days" or durations of Geological Time since then, too.

And light did not appear initially with the Big Bang, but there was a long Dark Cosmic Age before the stars formed and atoms appeared.

The argument for this is detailed and supported by academics
Genesis 1: The Theistic Evolutionary Creation

I've already demonstrated that the masturbation myths conform to the facts.

 

[Doveaman]

I believe that Genesis ought be taught as part of Science, since what is written can be considered hypotheses about ideas that proved to be modern theories.

Just what in Genesis 1 does not conform with science?

...Certainly NOT Gen 1:2 = the molten spinning accretion disk of our Earth...
Genesis 1:2

Doesn't a molten spinning accretion disc give off light?

If I recall, there was no light in Genesis 1:2.

"Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep". (Gen 1:2).

 

[Geologist]

So Methusaleh lived for .008 seconds according to your clock?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

So Methusaleh lived for .008 seconds according to your clock?

How did you calculate that?

 

[pgp_protector]

So Methusaleh lived for .008 seconds according to your clock?

How did you calculate that?

I think they rounded down vs up.

if 65,000,000 years is 10 minutes (600 seconds)
then 1 second = 108336.333 years
0.0089 seconds = 969 years.

 

[cupid dave]

I think they rounded down vs up.

if 65,000,000 years is 10 minutes (600 seconds)
then 1 second = 108336.333 years
0.0089 seconds = 969 years.

Silly...

Science says the same thing as Genesis.
There have been 22 "begats" since the first species of humanoid appeared 7 million years ago:


The Last Human: A Guide to Twenty-Two Species of Extinct Humans
by G.J. Sawyer, Viktor Deak
Hardcover, 256 pages
Published June 28th 2007 by Yale University Press



One line thru Cain...

... the other thru Seth:

 

[Jazer]

Science says the same thing as Genesis.

The generations in Genesis are the decendants of Adam.
They are the Hebrew and Arab people today.
Known as the J Haplotype or group.

3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (5752) (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
3:24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
3:25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
3:26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
3:27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
3:28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
3:29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
3:30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
3:31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
3:32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
3:33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
3:34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
3:35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
3:36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Um ... Cupid?

I strongly disagree with that chart that shows Ham as a Negroid -- very strongly.

If it's based on the [false] assumption that God cursed Ham with dark skin, maybe the assumer should read Genesis 9 again.

God cursed Canaan, not Ham (since God had already blessed Ham in Genesis 9:1).

And Canaan, as we all know, settled in the Promised Land, not around the equator.

 

[Loudmouth]

Silly...

Science says the same thing as Genesis.
There have been 22 "begats" since the first species of humanoid appeared 7 million years ago:

There are more than 22 begats since anatomically modern humans left Africa.

 

[cupid dave]

There are more than 22 begats since anatomically modern humans left Africa.

The Last Human: A Guide to Twenty-Two Species of Extinct Humans
by G.J. Sawyer, Viktor Deak
Hardcover, 256 pages
Published June 28th 2007 by Yale University Press
Gen 5:9

 

[Loudmouth]

The Last Human: A Guide to Twenty-Two Species of Extinct Humans
by G.J. Sawyer, Viktor Deak
Hardcover, 256 pages
Published June 28th 2007 by Yale University Press
Gen 5:9

Those are species, not begats. You do know the difference, do you not?

Also, some of those species are more than likely cousins, not ancestors.

 

[Skaloop]

Um ... Cupid?

I strongly disagree with that chart that shows Ham as a Negroid -- very strongly.

If it's based on the [false] assumption that God cursed Ham with dark skin, maybe the assumer should read Genesis 9 again.

God cursed Canaan, not Ham (since God had already blessed Ham in Genesis 9:1).

And Canaan, as we all know, settled in the Promised Land, not around the equator.

Having dark skin is a curse?

 

[mpok1519]

why even discuss science with people who don't understand it?

Tell them to go school, or read a book. Why waste your time with people who simply want to refuse to acknowledge the facts because they've been mislead with falsehoods their whole lives?

 

[Belk]

why even discuss science with people who don't understand it?

Tell them to go school, or read a book. Why waste your time with people who simply want to refuse to acknowledge the facts because they've been mislead with falsehoods their whole lives?

It's good for a laugh. Besides, AV needs us to feed his persecution desire.

 

[cupid dave]

Those are species, not begats. You do know the difference, do you not?

Also, some of those species are more than likely cousins, not ancestors.

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Old paradigms die hard.
The Fundamentalist christians on the one side, and the psuedo-science literati on the other, tend to hold on to what they repeat from the last generation in spite of the evidence I show you here.

Genesis cleasrly see these 22 links oin the ascent of modern man as species because Gen 5:2 says so:



Genesis 5:2Male and female created he THEM; and blessed THEM, and called THEIR name Adam, (a species or kind) in the day when THEY were created.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

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Old paradigms die hard.
The Fundamentalist christians on the one side, and the psuedo-science literati on the other, tend to hold on to what they repeat from the last generation in spite of the evidence I show you here.

Genesis cleasrly see these 22 links oin the ascent of modern man as species because Gen 5:2 says so:

Genesis 5:2Male and female created he THEM; and blessed THEM, and called THEIR name Adam, (a species or kind) in the day when THEY were created.

Phil and I classify ourselves as a full fleged fundies...don't you?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7350852-3/#post51039724
Fundies....What defines one?

AV1611VET, Christian Forums [Comments (175)] [2006-Sep-12]

There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth.
Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least

 

[AV1611VET]

Phil and I classify ourselves as a full fleged fundies...don't you?