Some mathematical proofs from Quran

[Emre1974tr]

İn Arabic Original Quran:

“a day” (yewm) is used 365 times
"days" (eyyam, yewmeyn) is used 30 times
“a month” (şehr) is used 12 times

Dunia 115 times
Aakhirat 115 times

Malaikat 88
Shaytan 88

Life 145
Death 145

Benefit 50
Corrupt 50

People 50
Messengers 50

Eblees (king of devils) 11
Seek refuge from eblees 11

Museebah (calamity) 75
Thanks 75

Spending (sadaqah) 73
Satisfaction 73

people who are Mislead 17
Dead people 17

Muslimeen 41
Jihad 41

Gold 8
Easy life 8

Magic 60
Fitnah (dissuasion, misleading) 60

Zakat 32
Barakah 32

Mind 49
Noor (light) 49

Tongue 25
Sermon 25

Desire 8
Fear 8

Speaking publicly 18
Publicising 18

Hardship 114
Patience 114

Sun 33
A light 33

Man 24
Woman 24

Adam 25
Jesus 25

Poor 13
Rich 26 (13x2)


http://www.quranmiracles.com/mmwh/

Best regards.

 

[arunma]

İn Arabic Original Quran:

“a day” (yewm) is used 365 times
"days" (eyyam, yewmeyn) is used 30 times
“a month” (şehr) is used 12 times

Why do I not believe that the inventor of this apologetic argument counted accurately?

 

[indianx]

And why does the Quran seem to endorse the Gregorian calendar alone, if Islam is 'universal', as you say?

Wouldn't it be more appropriate for it to follow this calendar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar?

 

[Emre1974tr]

Because it is true calender. İt has got real calculating.

 

[Emre1974tr]

Oh arabians calender is maybe Hicri.

But God giving us real datas about calender.

 

[arunma]

Because it is true calender. İt has got real calculating.

I think his question was as to why the Quran doesn't "scientifically predict" the Islamic lunar calendar. I don't know much about the Islamic calendar, but I'd assume that Islamic months are not 30 days long, and that there are not twelve Islamic months. Are these assumptions incorrect?

 

[Emre1974tr]

Dear friend;

Arabian's calender is Hicri. But this is not İslamic or hindu calender. This is arabian only....

İ said you, real İslam is different.

Maybe today peoples saying "hicri calender is islamic calender". But in reality, no. This is wrong beliving.

God giving us real calender in Quran.

Regards.

 

[indianx]

So a calendar authorized by a Catholic pope is the 'real calendar'?

 

[arunma]

Dear friend;

Arabian's calender is Hicri. But this is not İslamic or hindu calender. This is arabian only....

İ said you, real İslam is different.

Maybe today peoples saying "hicri calender is islamic calender". But in reality, no. This is wrong beliving.

God giving us real calender in Quran.

Regards.

Then may I ask how Muslims determine the date of various Islamic holidays, such as Ramadan, every year?

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

Muslims follow the lunar callendar. Lunar callendar has 12 months that make up a year. Our days in a month are either 28-29 days depending on the ending and the begnining of the new moons.

Q 9:36

The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year)- so ordained by Him the day He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are sacred: that is the straight usage. So wrong not yourselves therein, and fight the Pagans all together as they fight you all together. But know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.

Q 2:189

They ask thee (Muhammad) concerning the New Moons. Say: They are but signs to mark fixed periods of time in (the affairs of) men, and for Pilgrimage. It is no virtue if ye enter your houses from the back: It is virtue if ye fear Allah. Enter houses through the proper doors: And fear Allah. That ye may prosper.

 

[arunma]

Muslims follow the lunar callendar. Lunar callendar has 12 months that make up a year. Our days in a month are either 28-29 days depending on the ending and the begnining of the new moons.

That would seem to pose a problem for this latest so-called scientific miracle, wouldn't you agree? According to the OP, the Quran says that a month is thirty days. Is it roundoff error? Or would you agree that this is not a miracle at all?

 

[czach8]

Because it is true calender. İt has got real calculating.

What about the Mayan calendar? Even though they used a different system, they were still 100% accurate. They even included the movements of stars in their calendar without technology.

 

[0rion]

İn Arabic Original Quran:

“a day” (yewm) is used 365 times
"days" (eyyam, yewmeyn) is used 30 times
“a month” (şehr) is used 12 times

Why do I not believe that the inventor of this apologetic argument counted accurately?

I didn't know that God used the Gregorian Celendar.

This is sooooo funny.

 

[0rion]

Because it is true calender. İt has got real calculating.

And it gets better.

Because it is the real calendar? He thinks that it is perfect... he probably doesn't know about leap years.

It's so funny how some people believe systems like 'calendars' were discovered and that they existed before the earth was created, rather than they being made up... just like their religion.

 

[tothelight]

Though in the first I am reluctant to comment on it, here is my take on the issue.

Day- 365..
In Islamic calender, you can't say how many days will be there in an year due to known fact of lunar cycle. Anyway,the word "year" should be used on a certain number of times which should have a message and appeal hidden. God knows the next calendar the world and most number of people follow (The calender most number ever followed since the creation of this world must be Gregorian).. Allah knows the past, present and the future.. Let the leap year (366 days) be put aside since it comes once every 4 year and you can't have the word "day" used both 365 and 366 number of times in a single book simultaneously.
So then the number remained is 365..

Regarding the month. As Oxy2Hydro pointed out in Hijri calender the number of days in a month are not 28 or 29.. It is 29 days or 30 days.. As 30 comes in the list (Note that in Gregorian calender also have some months with 30 days), the number of times the word "month" used is 30.

Anyway, I haven't counted the respective numbers..

 

[Emre1974tr]

And 19 miracle:

http://www.quranmiracles.com/19/

 

[Diamonds2004]

Reply to author of thread:

Why would the number of times words are mentioned in any text, holy or secular, be considered a miracle in itself. There is nothing scientific about this. Also, theologically spekaing in the Qur`ran, the text does not in itself consider crediting the number of times words are metnioned in original Arabic as miraculous.

 

[eksesar]

Muslims follow the lunar callendar. Lunar callendar has 12 months that make up a year. Our days in a month are either 28-29 days depending on the ending and the begnining of the new moons.

Have you ever read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantus

Mathematical proofs from Quran ? WHAT ? why don't you check before claiming something ? you must be forgot to check historical matters.

Mathematical proofs from Quran ? WHAT ? every Prophet in Quran are called FIRST MUSLIM?

Diophantus must be laugh in the heaven now. Peace Manhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantus

 

[eksesar]

This thread made me laugh for real

have you check this http://chineseastrologyonline.com/clc/LunarCalendar.htm

First, Mathematical proof and now Lunar proof ? then what other proof ?

I am not the founder or co-founder of those systems, so I'll never claimed as a founder proof. If I did that then... shame on me

 

[eksesar]

Reply to author of thread:

Why would the number of times words are mentioned in any text, holy or secular, be considered a miracle in itself. There is nothing scientific about this. Also, theologically spekaing in the Qur`ran, the text does not in itself consider crediting the number of times words are metnioned in original Arabic as miraculous.

Every Muslim think that it's a BIG miracle. That's why they start this thread.