Some honest answers please...

[Subduction Zone]

View attachment 203552 I believe we are created spirit, soul and body but still three in one. The same way God created the universe. We do not find heaven in space either. It is another dimension. We can not go there in Our physical form. If evolution was proven true as most say it is I believe I would still not loose my faith, but I would very much doubt that evolution was true. It once was "true" that the earth was flat too and if We went too far We could fall off. I have hard to believe that nothing itself could produce space from nothing. Then a light, then molecules that turn into dust and planets and fire and gas and explode in a big bang and somehow the series of events creates all kinds of animals and humans from fish without the hand of God. But I do believe that the ant does not know all there is to know about the worldevents today, worldhistory and so on, but it knows enough. Me neither, I do not know it all, I need to rely on Gods grace. But I have been created with a body and a brain and some creating curiosity, however I do have limits to that too. And without God we could not even question if the universe was created by God or by itself. It would all collapse. That is my belief. But who could truly prove the evolutiontheory but God. He is the only one that has lived that long.

Evidence "proves" the theory of evolution. Do you believe that people are proven guilty in courts of law?

 

[Roseonathorn]

Evidence "proves" the theory of evolution. Do you believe that people are proven guilty in courts of law?

Sometimes I believe the judge and the jury are simply tired and want the case over with, just to go to lunch. They might also have decided in their mind that they do not like a special person that is accused so they prefer to believe a lie about that person.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sometimes I believe the judge and the jury are simply tired and want the case over with, just to go to lunch. They might also have decided in their mind that they do not like a special person that is accused so they prefer to believe a lie about that person.

Oh my!! Sounds like projection to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

Does anyone know how to make superscripts and subscripts now?

 

[dad]

dad, you are not being honest. I asked for specific dates that you wanted supported. YOU ran way. I asked you when your mythical flood was. YOU ran away. I can't support dates that you do not ask about. I am not about to support all of them. There is no point. The flood that you believe in lasted for a year. Give me a date and then I will support it.

So far your answer to my "Yes" "No" question has been a "No".

You had the date...the KT layer. Face it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You had the date...the KT layer. Face it.

That was 65 million years ago. You fail. There were no human beings alive at that time. If you want to claim that date showing that you are wrong is as easy as could be:

K-T Boundary - Universe Today

 

[dad]

That was 65 million years ago.

Rattling of dates you can't support eh?

There were no human beings alive at that time.

How would you know?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Rattling of dates you can't support eh?

Wrong, I can support it. I just did. YOU can't refute it. Even though the evidence I gave is minimal, and I could find much more, it was more than enough Even just a little evidence beats no evidence at all.

How would you know?

Because I know the evolutionary history of man. You might not know that but I do. Again, I can support that with evidence. We all know that you can't support your claims at all.

 

[dad]

Wrong, I can support it. I just did.

Mentioning imaginary faith based years that you do not know the basis of and couldn't care just can't help you. I am actually familiar with their belief system, while you just worship it blindly.

YOU can't refute it.

What is to refute? You tossed out foolish dates that you must support.

Even though the evidence I gave is minimal,

Saying the words 65 million years actually is not minimal evidence, it is blathering.

Because I know the evolutionary history of man.

You are mildly acquainted with the evo fable. I happen to know the foundational premises and have a comprehension of the actual issues.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Mentioning imaginary faith based years that you do not know the basis of and couldn't care just can't help you. I am actually familiar with their belief system, while you just worship it blindly.

What is to refute? You tossed out foolish dates that you must support.

Saying the words 65 million years actually is not minimal evidence, it is blathering.

You are mildly acquainted with the evo fable. I happen to know the foundational premises and have a comprehension of the actual issues.

Sorry dad, but until you come up with some evidence you lose. I supported my date. You have not supported any of your claims ever.



Did you not notice the title of this thread?

 

[dad]

Sorry dad, but until you come up with some evidence you lose. I supported my date. You have not supported any of your claims ever.



Did you not notice the title of this thread?

mENTIONING SO CALLED DATES IS NOT SUPPORTING ANYTHING.

 

[Subduction Zone]

mENTIONING SO CALLED DATES IS NOT SUPPORTING ANYTHING.

Then it is a good thing that I did more than just mention them.

You were the one that hand waved and gave no support for your claims. I was lazy on purpose because that's all that it takes to defeat no evidence at all.

Until you support your claims with a valid source you lose.

 

[dad]

Then it is a good thing that I did more than just mention them.

You were the one that hand waved and gave no support for your claims. I was lazy on purpose because that's all that it takes to defeat no evidence at all.

Until you support your claims with a valid source you lose.

No. You claim that the imaginary years used to date the KT layer are gospel, and cannot begin to defend them. That is not debate, it is religious impudence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. You claim that the imaginary years used to date the KT layer are gospel, and cannot begin to defend them. That is not debate, it is religious impudence.

Wrong again. I have evidence that supports me. You have none. Sadly you do not even seem to understand the concept of evidence.

dad, until you find some evidence that supports you, you have lost.

 

[dad]

Wrong again. I have evidence that supports me. You have none. Sadly you do not even seem to understand the concept of evidence.

dad, until you find some evidence that supports you, you have lost.

Let's review how you supported the dates for the KT layer? Oh, right, as always you did nothing but pretend. Some game.

 

[AV1611VET]

Let's review how you supported the dates for the KT layer?

Whatever dates they believe, I'm sure someone else did the field work and put the sweat equity into it.

They just believe their documentation.

 

[fantascey]

i am entirely confused as to why this thread has turned into a fight...

 

[dad]

Whatever dates they believe, I'm sure someone else did the field work and put the sweat equity into it.

They just believe their documentation.

True. I have chatted with some folks who actually knew their own religion pretty good. Some of these godless spam posters here don't seem to have a clue.

 

[AV1611VET]

i am entirely confused as to why this thread has turned into a fight...

Someone wants honest answers.

 

[AV1611VET]

True. I have chatted with some folks who actually knew their own religion pretty good. Some of these godless spam posters here don't seem to have a clue.

Yup.

They believe their documentation, we believe ours.

Only they call what they believe "science" and what we believe "religion".

Go figure!