Some honest answers please...

[Subduction Zone]

You have some sort of misperception. yes, you do need to 'read the word' to understand it. If all you are in here for, by the way, is to lash out against people for their beliefs. then get out of the forum. We are trying to help you understand. I didn't even grow up in a christian household, so dont assume things about me.

Not what I said. And please, let's just call the Bible "the Bible". And no, I am here to help people understand basic science. Correcting errors in beliefs is not "lashing out". I am not the one that brought up the resurrection, or did you miss that?

You however, seem to feel it is your duty to negatively associate everything we say. What if that was what we were here to do? How would you feel if i started telling you, that if you can't see it, or prove it, air doesn't exist? We can prove that God exists. You just have to be open to seeing the Truth. I feel bad for you if you cannot accept it. Because that means you are very limited and close-minded. Do yourself a favor and read the Bible, just so you aren't ignorant about it.

Hardly. There are some Christians that one can have a reasonable conversation with, there are some that one can't. AV, who I was responding to is one of the unreasonable ones.

You apparently, yourself, have no ability to independently think. Especially if you want to lean on the opinion of scientists that do the work of research for you. Who knows if what they are feeding you is even real?

Now please, you are merely projecting your flaws upon others. And you are rather paranoid to boot.

Not a good combination.

I know that God is real. You, and your false ideals, cannot sway that. So give up, and let his Truth guide you. for once.

Wrong, you only believe that. If you "knew" you could demonstrate why and how your God is real. I can support my claims. I have yet to see a creationist that could come even close.

 

[dad]

Making false claims that you know are wrong only reemphasizes the fact that you lost and cannot be honest as the topic of this thread requests.

You had the chance to post evidence, instead you posted religious nonsense you can't even defend. Try to get the subtle meanings to this..GONG!

 

[Subduction Zone]

You had the chance to post evidence, instead you posted religious nonsense you can't even defend. Try to get the subtle meanings to this..GONG!

Wrong again, you have the chance to discuss this with me, but you ran away. I do like that fact that whenever you tell an obvious falsehood that you gong yourself.

When you are ready to be honest I will be glad to help you to learn.

 

[fantascey]

Not what I said. And please, let's just call the Bible "the Bible". And no, I am here to help people understand basic science. Correcting errors in beliefs is not "lashing out". I am not the one that brought up the resurrection, or did you miss that?



Hardly. There are some Christians that one can have a reasonable conversation with, there are some that one can't. AV, who I was responding to is one of the unreasonable ones.



Now please, you are merely projecting your flaws upon others. And you are rather paranoid to boot.

Not a good combination.




Wrong, you only believe that. If you "knew" you could demonstrate why and how your God is real. I can support my claims. I have yet to see a creationist that could come even close.

That is truly sad. If you want proof. Then read the testimonies. These links are just a fraction of the truths. the proof is there. Scientists accidentally discovered MORE proof for God's existence when they ran this experiment - Technology - News - Catholic Online
Scientists Find That Everything Is Energy And Reality Isn’t What We Think It Is
Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources
Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth - CNN

 

[fantascey]

Not what I said. And please, let's just call the Bible "the Bible". And no, I am here to help people understand basic science. Correcting errors in beliefs is not "lashing out". I am not the one that brought up the resurrection, or did you miss that?



Hardly. There are some Christians that one can have a reasonable conversation with, there are some that one can't. AV, who I was responding to is one of the unreasonable ones.



Now please, you are merely projecting your flaws upon others. And you are rather paranoid to boot.

Not a good combination.




Wrong, you only believe that. If you "knew" you could demonstrate why and how your God is real. I can support my claims. I have yet to see a creationist that could come even close.

I apologize if i misunderstood a previous post. I do not appreciate being called ignorant, as I do everything I can to not be.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That is truly sad. If you want proof. Then read the testimonies. These links are just a fraction of the truths. the proof is there. Scientists accidentally discovered MORE proof for God's existence when they ran this experiment - Technology - News - Catholic Online
Scientists Find That Everything Is Energy And Reality Isn’t What We Think It Is
Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources
Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth - CNN

That is truly sad. If you want proof. Then read the testimonies. These links are just a fraction of the truths. the proof is there. Scientists accidentally discovered MORE proof for God's existence when they ran this experiment - Technology - News - Catholic Online
Scientists Find That Everything Is Energy And Reality Isn’t What We Think It Is
Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources
Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth - CNN

That is just a hot mess. For example you have evidence for Jesus the man, but not for Jesus as portrayed by Christians.

The proper way to do this is to bring up your claims one at a time. When one brings up a mess refutation of one is refutation of all in a debate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I apologize if i misunderstood a previous post. I do not appreciate being called ignorant, as I do everything I can to not be.

No need, but you should not be so sensitive. We are all ignorant in certain topics. There is a saying out there, and it really irks creationists because it is true:

"There is no such thing as an honest, informed creationist". Creationists either tend to be very ignorant about the sciences, or they tend to be dishonest. Most creationists here do not even understand the nature of evidence and are afraid to learn. They can understand where understanding the concept of evidence leads to so they avoid the subject.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is a saying out there, and it really irks creationists because it is true:

"There is no such thing as an honest, informed creationist".

Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.

That is your choice. Of course that means you have no comeback when people point out that you are wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

Of course that means you have no comeback when people point out that you are wrong.

If you kin do it, so kin I.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you kin do it, so kin I.

Please AV, when was the last time you showed me to be wrong?

 

[AV1611VET]

Please AV, when was the last time you showed me to be wrong?

Don't know, don't care, don't care to know.

Memry too shoart.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Don't know, don't care, don't care to know.

Memry too shoart.

In other words you should not have made that accusation.

Even you can learn, if you try.

 

[fantascey]

No need, but you should not be so sensitive. We are all ignorant in certain topics. There is a saying out there, and it really irks creationists because it is true:

"There is no such thing as an honest, informed creationist". Creationists either tend to be very ignorant about the sciences, or they tend to be dishonest. Most creationists here do not even understand the nature of evidence and are afraid to learn. They can understand where understanding the concept of evidence leads to so they avoid the subject.

i disagree entirely. you do not know me. how can you say that you think i am dishonest? and you do not know if i am misinformed on scientific topics. So why should you assume such things?

 

[AV1611VET]

Even you can learn, if you try.

Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

 

[AV1611VET]

how can you say that you think i am dishonest?

It's simple physics.

As morals decrease, fake accusations of dishonesty increase.

 

[fantascey]

You asked me for scientific evidence and i provided it. Here is what I am asking you to do. Have a little faith.
Do you not understand that this is what happens to your soul, when you pass from this earth? Aren't you worried about burning in eternity? I, for one, am very glad to be a christian and to have the beliefs that I have, and to have faith. I can tell you. that even thought of being an atheist, as you say that you are, is downright terrifying. Because that means that you dont believe in any of it. And if you don't believe in any of it, how can you expect for God to believe in you, or for anyone to believe in you? and to save you? Arent you worried for yourself? Love exists. Why shouldnt God?
It is all about faith.

 

[Subduction Zone]

i disagree entirely. you do not know me. how can you say that you think i am dishonest? and you do not know if i am misinformed on scientific topics. So why should you assume such things?

Well let's find out. Do you accept the fact that life is the product of evolution?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You asked me for scientific evidence and i provided it. Here is what I am asking you to do. Have a little faith.
Do you not understand that this is what happens to your soul, when you pass from this earth? Aren't you worried about burning in eternity? I, for one, am very glad to be a christian and to have the beliefs that I have, and to have faith. I can tell you. that even thought of being an atheist, as you say that you are, is downright terrifying. Because that means that you dont believe in any of it. And if you don't believe in any of it, how can you expect for God to believe in you, or for anyone to believe in you? and to save you? Arent you worried for yourself? Love exists. Why shouldnt God?
It is all about faith.

No, you didn't. You don't appear to even understand the concept.

Once again, if you want to discuss any of those pick your best one. A Gish Gallop is dishonest in a debate. I do not like them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's simple physics.

As morals decrease, fake accusations of dishonesty increase.

Please AV, you and I both know that you are in no position to judge my morals. A truly moral person understands morals. That once again leaves you out.