Solution to the creation/evolution debate...?

[TLK Valentine]

100% positive.But that's because they have a belief in God the Father.

But since it's not the same God as yours, don't expect them to invite you for fellowship...

... in fact, there was a time not too long ago they would have happily killed you over Him.

Father always liked them best.

 

[AV1611VET]

But since it's not the same God as yours, don't expect them to invite you for fellowship...

Why?

I've been invited to fellowship with Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Atheists.

They don't all think like you do.

 

[enoob57]

So where did He say "creationism"?

Genesis 1

 

[TLK Valentine]

100% of Christians who ever lived, alive today, and will be alive tomorrow believe in God.

So any "40,000 sects believe differently" remarks can take a hike.

And at least 35,000 of those sects would hike you straight to a burning stake if secular law were to look away for about 45 minutes.

Just because you claim them as your bretheren, don't assume for one second that they claim you.

 

[enoob57]

Where do we find the one True reading?

I have invested in digital library, about $25,000.00 or so plus, that contains Hebrew and Greek and a vast scholarship on the languages and grammer analysis libraries, various translations, the complete early church fathers library, topic analysis library, cultural and historical analysis libraries, theological works library, the science of hermeneutics library, vast sets of commentaries, Biblical counseling library, book by book studies, interpretive analysis library, literary forms found within Scripture, time lines within, philosophical reasonings within Scripture, apologetics library, individual disciplines of studies library, etc. and yes I have went all in on the study of Scripture and the discipline of gleaning through hard exhaustive work to glean 'thus sayeth The Lord'... there are no short cuts!

How did you find
out about it?

The Word Of God Trains Us on how to glean It's truth:

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NASB

The Word Of God Directs Us:

Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path. Psalms 119:105 NASB

Meditate On God’s Word:

This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it; for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have success. Joshua 1:8 NASB

The Word Of God Is Our Sword:

And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Ephesians 6:17 NASB

The Bible Helps Us to Follow God’s Desires:

But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'” Matthew 4:4 NASB

God’s Word Guides Us:

For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. Romans 15:4 NASB

We Are To Seek God With All Our Heart:

With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you. Psalm 119:10-11 ESV

We Are To Hold His Word Close:

Keep my commandments and live, And my teaching as the apple of your eye. Bind them on your fingers; Write them on the tablet of your heart. Proverbs 7:2-3 NASB

*God’s Word Is Alive:

For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Hebrews 4:12 NASB

How do you know its the right one?

How can it not be when I have done all He says in order to know Him? The motivation is to know His Word so that I may know Him and by knowing Him I am more able to please Him more fully... For He has made me His friend....
John 15:15 (KJV)
[15] Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Genesis 1

Meanwhile, in Matthew 23:33, he calls the Scribes and Pharisees snakes and vipers -- were they literal reptiles?

 

[Astrid]

I have invested in digital library, about $25,000.00 or so plus, that contains Hebrew and Greek and a vast scholarship on the languages and grammer analysis libraries, various translations, the complete early church fathers library, topic analysis library, cultural and historical analysis libraries, theological works library, the science of hermeneutics library, vast sets of commentaries, Biblical counseling library, book by book studies, interpretive analysis library, literary forms found within Scripture, time lines within, philosophical reasonings within Scripture, apologetics library, individual disciplines of studies library, etc. and yes I have went all in on the study of Scripture and the discipline of gleaning through hard exhaustive work to glean 'thus sayeth The Lord'... there are no short cuts!


The Word Of God Trains Us on how to glean It's truth:

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NASB

The Word Of God Directs Us:

Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path. Psalms 119:105 NASB

Meditate On God’s Word:

This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it; for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have success. Joshua 1:8 NASB

The Word Of God Is Our Sword:

And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Ephesians 6:17 NASB

The Bible Helps Us to Follow God’s Desires:

But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'” Matthew 4:4 NASB

God’s Word Guides Us:

For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. Romans 15:4 NASB

We Are To Seek God With All Our Heart:

With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you. Psalm 119:10-11 ESV

We Are To Hold His Word Close:

Keep my commandments and live, And my teaching as the apple of your eye. Bind them on your fingers; Write them on the tablet of your heart. Proverbs 7:2-3 NASB

*God’s Word Is Alive:

For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Hebrews 4:12 NASB



How can it not be when I have done all He says in order to know Him? The motivation is to know His Word so that I may know Him and by knowing Him I am more able to please Him more fully... For He has made me His friend....
John 15:15 (KJV)
[15] Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Remarkable effort!
Did you find out how old the earth is, and
whether flood is literal or allegorical?

 

[enoob57]

Meanwhile, in Matthew 23:33, he calls the Scribes and Pharisees snakes and vipers -- were they literal reptiles?

If you wish to be silly by wasting our time in discussion like this... what good is that? The Bible identified who they were and by comparing them to snake and vipers He takes us to the Garden where satan first tempted by such... and the reptile was altered through curse and it would become a hated thing. This understanding is supported by Scripture here
John 8:44 (KJV)
[44] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

[Astrid]

His name is Jesus... and His Word speaks on it's own merit as from Him...

What is the total number of words attributed to him, do you know?

 

[enoob57]

Did you find out how old the earth is

I am a creationist... I believe in a 7- 24 hour day creation because the Scripture puts it into a comparative here
Exodus 31:16 (KJV)
[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
[17] It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
so by this the ToE is null and void...

flood is literal or allegorical?

Literally happened...

 

[AV1611VET]

And at least 35,000 of those sects would hike you straight to a burning stake if secular law were to look away for about 45 minutes.

And if they hike me, what will they do with you?

Just because you claim them as your bretheren, don't assume for one second that they claim you.

I didn't say a word about claiming them as brethren.

You keep trying to change the subject, and I suspect I know why.

 

[enoob57]

What is the total number of words attributed to him, do you know?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

100% of Christians who ever lived, alive today, and will be alive tomorrow believe in God.

Maybe that's because you define 'Christian' as being someone who believes in God, thus excluding all those dedicated souls that follow Christ the man without having god beliefs.

 

[TLK Valentine]

And if they hike me, what will they do with you?

Hang me, of course -- if they recognize me as an infidel.

But one who plays with fundies -- and wins -- for fun can just as easily do it as a survival mechanism. So don't you worry about little ol' me.

I didn't say a word about claiming them as brethren.

Good -- just so you know the feeling will be more than mutual.

You keep trying to change the subject, and I suspect I know why.

So that you eventually understand that given the chance, your fellow Christians would happily make your life more miserable than any evolutionist would ever want to?

After all -- we just use reason; they have no compunctions about pain.

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe that's because you define 'Christian' as being someone who believes in God, thus excluding all those dedicated souls that follow Christ the man without having god beliefs.

Such as?

Just tell me what they're called?

Then tell me if they're included in that list of 40,000 Christian sects.

 

[AV1611VET]

So that you eventually understand that given the chance, your fellow Christians would happily make your life more miserable than any evolutionist would ever want to?

From your perspective, in spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?

 

[TLK Valentine]

If you wish to be silly by wasting our time in discussion like this... what good is that? The Bible identified who they were and by comparing them to snake and vipers He takes us to the Garden where satan first tempted by such... and the reptile was altered through curse and it would become a hated thing. This understanding is supported by Scripture here
John 8:44 (KJV)
[44] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

So... you think all reptiles suffer because of what one talking one did way back when?

And.... is the Devil someone's literal father?

 

[TLK Valentine]

From your perspective, in spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?

Will they be any less Christian, or you any less dead, depending on the answer?

 

[AV1611VET]

Will they be any less Christian,

Would you know it, if they were?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Such as?

Just tell me what they're called?

What do you think followers of Christ would call themselves?

Then tell me if they're included in that list of 40,000 Christian sects.

I couldn't say - I haven't seen it, I don't know if it's exhaustive, I don't know if they're a sect, and I'm not that interested. Does it matter whether they're on a list or not?