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Solution to the creation/evolution debate...?

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Seriously? If I hadn't read the post, I wouldn't have known it made no mention of evolution.

Ok, thank you, and also I'm sorry, and also your welcome, ok...

That last bit I just posted was probably a little bit more clearer and more simple than my original OP, but the original OP includes a little bit more, and goes into a little bit more of the details, etc...

God Bless!
 
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I 100% completely agree, etc...

It is a waste otherwise, etc...

Then you understand why your offer fails to impress.


Insults... How cute... But I am not programmed to respond to insults, etc...

No insult -- merely an observable fact.

You have to believe in my different knowledge of God than you right now currently have right now, etc,

In the same sense that your astrology is a "different" knowledge of the stars than the astronomy I might currently be studying...

"Different" knowledge is not the same as "better," or even "useful."

and if you want anymore than that, then you have to not be so "afraid", like you are, to even dare to ask me one simple question about it, etc...

You're making that assumption again. The only thing I want from you, you've already provided in abundance.

Otherwise you get nothing, etc...

Already did.

And I mean that quite literally, etc...

As do I.

And your (current) knowledge will perish with you, etc...

Not at all -- for I am in possession of a wondrous skill known as "writing." My knowledge can endure long after I've gone the way of all flesh.

How or what was it that caused that ship to sail, etc...?

Why, you, of course.

And, if you want to be and/or stand eternally condemned, then be my guest, because I could care less, etc...

And yet here you are -- condemning me because I choose not to acknowledge your superior knowledge of God.

*sigh* these C/E threads do get so predictable after a time...

Or you could ask me a "question", etc...?

Your choice either way, etc...

I asked my question -- you hemmed and hawed at it.

But if you like, I'll ask another.

How is your "knowledge" going to save me from being "condemned"?

Because I think your really just "afraid to ask" really, etc...

Looks like I just proved you wrong. Let's see how many more times I can do that, shall we?

Because then you might just have to take it a little bit more seriously than just it's "entertainment value" to you only, etc, and I don't think you really want that really, etc, and is really the real reason why you don't ask really, etc...

God Bless!

Ok then... how is your "knowledge" going to save me from being condemned?

And while we're at it, condemned by whom? and for what?

There you go -- three questions for the price of one.

Your move.
 
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Then you understand why your offer fails to impress.

Who said I was aiming to impress...?

No insult -- merely an observable fact.

No, you resorted to accusations and name calling, which is clearly an insult, etc...

And not to mention is "very childish" also, etc...

In the same sense that your astrology is a "different" knowledge of the stars than the astronomy I might currently be studying...

Are you implying that I don't seem to know the difference between astrology and astronomy, etc...?

Oh, look, another insult, how cute yet again, etc... But then again, this is what desperate people tend to do most usually when they are desperate, etc, insult what they don't fully know about or understand, or cannot yet fully comprehend, etc...

"Different" knowledge is not the same as "better," or even "useful."

Too bad you don't know what's at stake then, huh...

Otherwise you might consider it "very useful", etc...

You're making that assumption again. The only thing I want from you, you've already provided in abundance.

Yeah it takes some kind of very sick person to get their jolly's off by only coming on here just only looking for entertainment, and/or amusement, etc, but that still has yet to ask me one simple and basic and genuine honest question to me about God or the Bible, because they are too afraid to ask, etc...

Already did.

Then we are in agreement then, you get or know nothing, etc...


Yep, you get or know nothing, glad we agree, etc...

Not at all -- for I am in possession of a wondrous skill known as "writing." My knowledge can endure long after I've gone the way of all flesh.

Even if that is true, and even if you only think you have writings that people will care to remember, they will not last forever, etc, because that can only come from God, and faith in God, which is the one and only thing, that truly lasts forever, etc...

Why, you, of course.

No, I think it was you, and has always been you, etc...

And yet here you are -- condemning me because I choose not to acknowledge your superior knowledge of God.

It is only a "warning" meant to wake you up, etc...

Trying to directly condemn someone for something is a whole other matter entirely than what I am trying to do here, and you should already know that if you truly knew the difference, etc...

I asked my question -- you hemmed and hawed at it.

No you didn't, because I have answered every single question you have directly asked me so far, etc...

Which hasn't been very many...

And hasn't been nearly challenging enough for me thus far either, etc...

But if you like, I'll ask another.

How is your "knowledge" going to save me from being "condemned"?

By leading you to have a belief in God, hopefully, etc...

Looks like I just proved you wrong. Let's see how many more times I can do that, shall we?

You haven't proved me wrong about anything thus far, etc, not one single thing at all, etc, and if you really think so, then perhaps we should review the thread, to see if you are really telling the truth about that, and/or find out, shall we...?

Ok then... how is your "knowledge" going to save me from being condemned?

By leading/provoking you to believe in God hopefully, etc...

And while we're at it, condemned by whom? and for what?

You know by who and for what, etc...

You've just only lived in denial of it for a very long time, etc...

There you go -- three questions for the price of one.

And I have answered them all, etc...

Just like every other question you have directly asked me in this thread, which hasn't been very many, etc...

Or been very challenging either, etc...

Still waiting on just only one of those, etc...?

Your move.

Yours now, etc...

God Bless!
 
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Here is a link to the Physical and Life Sciences Forum, and this a direct link to a reply to someone I just made to someone in there, where I am going to attempt to "walk them through it" step by step if your interested, etc...

Then you'll have a good general idea of my starting point to people who don't know anything, etc, OK...

Here it is: Is science at odds with philosophy?

God Bless!
 
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Here is the challenge I will set before you all right now in this thread:

"Ask me any question you want to about God and/or the Bible and I can 100% guarantee you that I can answer it in a way that is logical and/or reasonable, or that is logically and reasonably possible, etc, ok..."

God Bless!
 
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Who said I was aiming to impress...?

Sorry, were we pretending it wasn't obvious? My bad.

No, you resorted to accusations and name calling, which is clearly an insult, etc...

And not to mention is "very childish" also, etc...

Who did I call a name? I just pointed out that it doesn't always take a lot of knowledge to recognize a lack of knowledge... or false knowledge.

Am I wrong?

Are you implying that I don't seem to know the difference between astrology and astronomy, etc...?

Well, it seems that you don't know the difference between a metaphor and a literal statement. No worries; we get that a lot around here.

Let me be more direct -- even if you have the knowledge you claim to, it's of no use to me.

Better?

Oh, look, another insult, how cute yet again, etc... But then again, this is what desperate people tend to do most usually when they are desperate, etc, insult what they don't fully know about or understand, or cannot yet fully comprehend, etc...

Sorry; no idea what you're referring to.

Too bad you don't know what's at stake then, huh...

Otherwise you might consider it "very useful", etc...

This is the part where you explain what is allegedly "at stake."

Your move.

Yeah it takes some kind of very sick person to get their jolly's off by only coming on here just only looking for entertainment, and/or amusement, etc, but that still has yet to ask me one simple and basic and genuine honest question to me about God or the Bible, because they are too afraid to ask, etc...

I've asked plenty of questions -- you've come up goose eggs with the answers.

Perhaps this post will change things?

Then we are in agreement then, you get or know nothing, etc...

Indeed -- as I already said.

Yep, you get or know nothing, glad we agree, etc...

Yep... I figured that from the get-go.

Even if that is true, and even if you only think you have writings that people will care to remember, they will not last forever, etc, because that can only come from God, and faith in God, which is the one and only thing, that truly lasts forever, etc...

In your opinion.

New question: What's that worth?

Your move.

It is only a "warning" meant to wake you up, etc...

New question: What will you do now that your "warning" has failed?

Your move.

By leading you to have a belief in God, hopefully, etc...

New Question: You think you're that good at what you do?

Your move.

By leading/provoking you to believe in God hopefully, etc...

See above.

Still your move.

You know by who and for what, etc...

You've just only lived in denial of it for a very long time, etc...

New Question: You think you know my life better than I do?

Your move.
 
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Here is the challenge I will set before you all right now in this thread:

"Ask me any question you want to about God and/or the Bible and I can 100% guarantee you that I can answer it in a way that is logical and/or reasonable, or that is logically and reasonably possible, etc, ok..."

God Bless!
What is God the Father's name?
 
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Sorry, were we pretending it wasn't obvious? My bad.

I told you the truth, I am not here to impress, etc...

Regardless of whether or not that is your real reason for being here or not, it is not mine, etc...

Who did I call a name?

You need to go back to your last post to me, etc...

I just pointed out that it doesn't always take a lot of knowledge to recognize a lack of knowledge... or false knowledge.

Am I wrong?

You think anyone with any kind of religious belief has false knowledge, so, yes, you are wrong, etc...

Well, it seems that you don't know the difference between a metaphor and a literal statement. No worries; we get that a lot around here.

Well, I am sorry, but with your latest string of insults, I just assumed it was yet another insult directed toward me, etc...

Let me be more direct -- even if you have the knowledge you claim to, it's of no use to me.

Better?

Then your real reason for being is very "evil" indeed, etc...

Sorry; no idea what you're referring to.

Not surprised, I get that a lot around here, etc...

This is the part where you explain what is allegedly "at stake."

Oh nothing major, just your place in eternity is all, etc...

I've asked plenty of questions -- you've come up goose eggs with the answers.

Yeah, and your also lying too, and anyone can simply review this thread and see it/that very clearly also, etc...

See my post #245 just now, etc...

Indeed -- as I already said.

Glad we agree you know nothing, etc...

Yep... I figured that from the get-go.

Again, glad we agree you know nothing, etc...

In your opinion.

You think you have actually wrote things that people will remember forever, and/or that will last forever, etc...?

New question: What's that worth?

It's worth more than gold if it also lines up with all the facts in the end, etc...

New question: What will you do now that your "warning" has failed?

Truth be told, in my next posts right after this one, or these ones, I will probably stop getting so caught up in stooping down to your level to try and save you, etc...

New Question: You think you're that good at what you do?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink, etc...

New Question: You think you know my life better than I do?

I think I sometimes know you better than you do, yes...

Because you are just not that honest with yourself, etc...

Because your just not there yet, etc...

Your move.

Yours now...

God Bless!
 
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I told you the truth, I am not here to impress, etc...

And I'm telling you the truth: I don't believe you.

You think anyone with any kind of religious belief has false knowledge, so, yes, you are wrong, etc...

Sorry, you are quite wrong about what I think.

Besides, you're not claiming "religious knowledge"; you're claiming knowledge of God... shifting goalposts?

Well, I am sorry, but with your latest string of insults, I just assumed it was yet another insult directed toward me, etc...

Well, if you interpret facts as insults, there's not much I can do for you... not so say I was terribly inclined to do so in the first place.

Then your real reason for being is very "evil" indeed, etc...

Now that would be an insult if it meant anything.

Oh nothing major, just your place in eternity is all, etc...

Nothing at all, then... certainly nothing which has anything to do with the creation/evolution debate.

Next question: Have you forgotten where you are?


Yeah, and your also lying too, and anyone can simply review this thread and see it/that very clearly also, etc...

See my post #245 just now, etc...

I'm going by quality, not quantity. And by that metric, you've provided no answers.

Glad we agree you know nothing, etc...



Again, glad we agree you know nothing, etc...

Certainly haven't learned anything in this thread -- but as I said in post #242, it's what I want and what you've already provided.

You think you have actually wrote things that people will remember forever, and/or that will last forever, etc...?

Never said that -- but you incorrectly said I wasn't capable of doing so, so of course I had to correct you...


... again.

It's worth more than gold if it also lines up with all the facts in the end, etc...

True... but that's an awfully big "if" you've got going there.

And nothing yet shows it to be the case.

Unless that happens, then it's worth two things: diddly, and squat.

Truth be told, in my next posts right after this one, or these ones, I will probably stop getting so caught up in stooping down to your level to try and save you, etc...

That is precisely why you've failed to "save" anyone -- you give up when they refuse to acknowledge your superiority... why else would you have to "stoop down" to save them?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink, etc...

But when you lead a horse to sand, no amount of bluffing will convince it it's actually water.

I think I sometimes know you better than you do, yes...

Because you are just not that honest with yourself, etc...

Again, this is why you fail at saving people. You should work on that.

Because your just not there yet, etc...

Again, you're assuming that I would want to be where you are.

Hard pass.
 
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@TLK Valentine

Well, this has been fun, but I'm no longer going to be stooping down to your level in order to try and save you, and I'm directing everyone either back to the OP, or to discussing my post #245 just now, for now, OK, because that is the real reason I am here anyway, etc...

And I will be waiting for those who are ready to discuss and/or address those, because those are the real reasons I am here, etc...

But and/or anyway, have a nice life @TLK Valentine...

See you wherever, or from wherever, you wind up on the other side, OK...

Sorry if I tried to get you to see the light, OK...

God Bless!
 
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In the interest of attempting to salvage some entertainment value out of this thread,

Genesis 1 to Genesis 2:4 it is describing a literal history of an entire creation from beginning to end, days 1 through 7... And in or after Genesis 2:4 or starting with Genesis 2:5, it begins to to describe "it" in detail now or this time, beginning with everything that was happening with (the two races of) man and the land animals/beasts on day 6...

So we've got two races of man... good to know.

The whole of all the rest of the Bible (after Genesis 2:4) and even up to now, is all on day 6, and day 6 only, etc...

Day 7 begins after Armageddon or after Jesus returns to set up His Kingdom or rule and reign on earth, and that day will last until the end of this whole creations age final ending, etc...

Question: When Genesis 1 talks about the seventh day in the past tense, is that a translation error?

The Garden of Eden was a special creation located in a specific region on the earth, and was populated with what would eventually become the race of the Sons of God both during and afterwards, etc, but that race, once they started encountering and began intermixing with the sons and daughters of men, were all but wiped out by the flood, which happened in the specific region of Mesopotamia, (where the original Son's of God were dwelling after the fall and after getting kicked out of the Garden),

Question: It sounds like one of those two races (the original Sons of God) are the descendants of Adam and Eve... correct?

Question: Where did that other race of men come from, then?

Anyway, were all but wiped out by a/the flood that happened there around 5700 BC, with only Noah and his family, and maybe Cain, remaining after that, etc, and they then eventually had no choice but to begin intermixing and interbreeding with the sons and daughters or men, or the other lesser race of man, after which their race and/or bloodline dwindled, or was made less, and became all but lost and/or gone after that, etc...

Question: Sounds like you're saying that this mysterious "second race" was inferior to the first. How so?

The original Sons of God, are called "just men made perfect", etc, but were of a different race or bloodline historically, etc, and began interbreeding with the other lesser race of man/men, etc, which in turn caused God to bring about the flood in their region, and wipe almost all of them out, etc...

Ok, so the second race was definitely inferior.

And they lived perfectly, or their society was perfect really, but their great egotism and arrogance, resulted in them acting very wickedly, and when they began mixing with, and even interbreeding/crossbreeding with, the lesser race of man/men, etc, God had "had enough", etc, and that was "the last straw" concerning them for Him, etc, and so He decided to wipe out almost all of them from the face of the earth at that point, etc...

Question: How did egotism and arrogance manifest itself? What were their wicked actions?

Question: How would the "perfect"(-ly evil, apparently) people justify crossbreeding with "inferior" races if they were so egotistical?

I ask because usually it has the opposite effect -- those who believe their race is perfect will not want to dilute their bloodline.

And then great egotism and/or arrogance persisted even yet again after the flood with the new race that had populated/re-populated there, etc, when they built the Tower of Babel, etc, when they then made or had caused God to have "had enough" yet again, etc, and the rest of that story you/me/we know, etc...

Question: How did God let Himself get blindsided again so quickly?

Question: What was it about that tower that cheesed off God so badly?

And it just seemed to keep happening again and again after that, etc...

Question: Will God ever learn?

But forget about about the whole arrogance/egotism of man and/or Sons of God for a minute, but let's just discuss the whole creation/evolution debate with what I just said, etc...

Question: Why should we forget about the arrogance?

Question: Where exactly is the substance of anything here worth discussing?
 
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What is God the Son's name?
His now new name that no one else knows right now but Himself, is "YHWH', etc, just like the rest of Them, etc...

But together They are all One YHWH, etc...

Ask me more if you want to, etc...

God Bless!
 
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His now new name that no one else knows right now but Himself, is "YHWH', etc, just like the rest of Them, etc...

But together They are all One YHWH, etc...

Ask me more if you want to, etc...

God Bless!
What is God the Spirit's name?
 
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How many of these "YHWHs" are there?
Three primarily, when standing alone, etc, but that name is also attached to those are part of His body also, etc, for They/they are all "one", etc...

And if we ever become part of His body one day, that name will attached to us as well, etc...

Ask me more if you want to, etc...

God Bless!
 
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Three primarily, when standing alone, etc, but that name is also attached to those are part of His body also, etc, for They/they are all "one", etc...

Ask me more if you want to, etc...

God Bless!
Did God write the Bible?
 
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