"So what?"

[The Barbarian]

For sure, that guy putting his feet on her desk was like a new Pearl Harbor attack all by itself.

I'm thinking the arrests were for breaking into the Capitol, assaulting police, threatening the Vice President, and stuff like that. Do you have a copy of the indictment where he was charged with putting his feet on her desk. IIRC, this particular perp was charged with stealing her laptop. Another person was charged with aiding that, but there was a mistrial on that charge:
WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Monday ordered Riley Williams, a 23-year-old right-wing extremist, taken into federal custody after a jury convicted her on six of the eight counts she faced in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.

Williams was found guilty on six counts, but the jury deadlocked on two others, including whether she aided and abetted the theft of a laptop in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Williams, a follower of the "Groyper" movement, stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, filming rioters breaking into the building, then encouraged members of the mob up a set of stairs toward House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office. She also pushed up against cops and tried to organize other rioters inside the Capitol rotunda.

Williams had faced a total of eight charges: civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, resisting and impeding officers, aiding and abetting theft of government property, and four misdemeanors.

WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Monday ordered Riley Williams, a 23-year-old right-wing extremist, taken into federal custody after a jury convicted her on six of the eight counts she faced in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.

Williams was found guilty on six counts, but the jury deadlocked on two others, including whether she aided and abetted the theft of a laptop in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
...
Williams, a follower of the "Groyper" movement, stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, filming rioters breaking into the building, then encouraged members of the mob up a set of stairs toward House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office. She also pushed up against cops and tried to organize other rioters inside the Capitol rotunda.

Williams had faced a total of eight charges: civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, resisting and impeding officers, aiding and abetting theft of government property, and four misdemeanors.

Jan. 6 rioter who filmed Pelosi laptop theft jailed after jury convicts her on 6 counts

Jurors deadlocked on two counts against Riley Williams, including a charge alleging she aided and abetted the theft of a laptop from Nancy Pelosi's office.

www.nbcnews.com

Rioters at the Capitol were targeting former Vice President Mike Pence, who refused to help his boss, former President Donald Trump, subvert the results of the 2020 election.
In video showed Wednesday at Trump’s second impeachment trial, rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” and “Bring out Pence!” as they roamed the halls searching for the former vice president and other lawmakers. Outside, the mob set up a makeshift gallows on the field near the Capitol.
Rioters got as close as 100 feet to Pence. Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman helped guide rioters away from where he was hiding.
House impeachment manager Stacey Plaskett said, “You can hear the mob calling for the death of the vice president of the United States.”

WATCH: Video shows Capitol 'mob calling for the death of the vice president,' Plaskett says

In video showed Wednesday at Trump’s second impeachment trial, rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” and “Bring out Pence!” as they roamed the halls searching for the former vice president and other lawmakers. Outside, the mob set up a makeshift gallows on the field near the Capitol.

www.pbs.org

People really do not realize how close America came to the abyss that day.

Oh, horsefeathers. They were just "tourists" who merely wanted to overturn a presidential election and lynch the Vice President of the United States. Harmless pranksters, no?

 

[The Barbarian]

But Stephen Colbert's film crew can trespass in the Capital and hide in offices and they get a pass

Just because they didn't assault police officers, trash Congressional offices, and steal laptops, they get a pass. No fair!

 

[Piers Plowman]

Personally, I think Pelosi took it rather personally when someone placed his feet on her desk.
(Not that I blame her; I'd be [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed too if someone placed his feet on my desk.)

Before my reputation be soured, let me state on record, that all I used was the p-word. Nothing more!
As an aside: that's a fine drunken state-of-the-art tech there... I got censored live. Wow. Impressive.

 

[The Barbarian]

I just listened to Kamala say if Trump is elected he's going to use the military to go after Democrats

Former President Donald Trump suggested using the military to handle what he called “the enemy from within” on Election Day, saying that he isn’t worried about chaos from his supporters or foreign actors, but instead from “radical left lunatics.”

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people. Radical left lunatics,” Trump said told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo in an interview on “Sunday Morning Futures.”

“I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen,” he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-military-enemy-from-within-election-day/index.html

His minions are trying to walk back Trump's threats, but not very successfully:

On Monday, Virginia's Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin attempted to rewrite Trump's comments as concerns about immigration, telling CNN's Jake Tapper that what the former president was talking about was the "people coming over the border," and that Tapper was "misrepresenting and misinterpreting" Trump's comments.

Tapper countered: "I'm literally reading his quotes to you, and I played them earlier so you could hear that they were not made up by me. He's literally talking about ‘radical left lunatics,' and then one of those ‘lunatics' he mentioned was Congressman Adam Schiff."

MSN

 

[BPPLEE]

They checked the affiliation of the people they arrested for killing police, attacking people, looting, and vandalizing. That's how we know all those guys were white supremaicists or other right-wing extremists.


They track radical Islamists, white and black supremacists, and others known to be violent.

More than three years after the FBI came under fire for claiming “Black identity extremists” were a domestic terrorism threat, the bureau has issued a new terrorism guide that employs almost identical terminology, according to a copy of the document obtained by Yahoo News.

The FBI’s 2020 domestic terrorism reference guide on “Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremism” identifies two distinct sets of groups: those motivated by white supremacy and those who use “political reasons — including racism or injustice in American society” to justify violence. The examples the FBI gives for the latter group are all Black individuals or groups.

New terrorism guide shows FBI still classifying Black 'extremists' as domestic terrorism threat

More than three years after the FBI came under fire for claiming “Black identity extremists” were a domestic terrorism threat, the bureau has issued a new terrorism guide that employs almost identical terminology, according to a copy of the document obtained by Yahoo News.

www.yahoo.com

BLM wouldn't fit into that category for the obvious reasons.


So you're saying some BLM members went into the street and misused funds? Seriously? Sounds like a riot by a pack of delinquent CPAs. C'mon.

"BLM wouldn't fit into that category for the obvious "

So why did you post it?

No they didn't go into the street and do it they misused funds that people donated and committed fraud, but you only care about this when it's Trump University.

How many houses have they built?
How many people have they sent to college?
How many people have they fed?
What exactly have they done with all that money?

 

[timothyu]

Ah, the good ol' days of travelling salesmen and snake oil. People want to be duped regardless of side. There should be no sides but as far as the world goes people against the government, not government against the people, which we have. Of course that is only for the ones who want to play earthly games.

 

[DaisyDay]

I just listened to Kamala say if Trump is elected he's going to use the military to go after Democrats

Donald himself said that he might.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Before my reputation be soured, let me state on record, that all I used was the p-word. Nothing more!
As an aside: that's a fine drunken state-of-the-art tech there... I got censored live. Wow. Impressive.

Long history of that here. You get used to it.

 

[BPPLEE]

Just because they didn't assault police officers, trash Congressional offices, and steal laptops, they get a pass. No fair!

Neither did the majority of people on January 6th

 

[The Barbarian]

"BLM wouldn't fit into that category for the obvious "

So why did you post it?

Because even if a BLM member mishandled funds, it has exactly nothing to do with any disorders that occured at BLM events. As you learned, the police caught a lot of people attacking police (killing two of them), rioting, vandalizing, and looting. But so far, they were white supremacists and other far-right people looking to disrupt the events.

Whether or not any BLM members were out in the streets mishandling funds, it has nothing to do with those disorders. C'mon.

 

[lifepsyop]

I'm thinking the arrests were for breaking into the Capitol, assaulting police, threatening the Vice President, and stuff like that. Do you have a copy of the indictment where he was charged with putting his feet on her desk.

Well, you thought wrong. Some arrests (likely the minority) were for people actually being violent and vandalizing. Many arrests and detainments were only for being on the premises. This is common knowledge.

It's funny you're even trying to be skeptical about it, because it's your own narrative to begin with.... this is an organized "insurrection" remember? everyone present that day was part of a diabolical insurrection and organized coup attempt. All are guilty. The grandma strolling through the rotunda, all the people being waved inside by capitol police holding doors open... All are guilty. That is what you believe. Your side has vehemently said this over and over again.

 

[The Barbarian]

Just because they didn't assault police officers, trash Congressional offices, and steal laptops, they get a pass. No fair!

Neither did the majority of people on January 6th

Which is probably why the majority of them weren't indicted. Why is that a surprise? They might have been guilty of some misdemeanor or another regarding unlawful entry, but the FBI was after the major criminals involved.

Which seems right to me. I suspect a lot of those people where just duped into taking part in the insurrection with no criminal intent. The guys trashing offices, assaulting police, stealing laptops, and screaming "hang Mike Pence" were quite reasonably arrested and held responsible.

 

[Francis 1928]

I am an American who believes in fidelity to the United States Consitution and the rule of law. Like Trump, I took an oath to defend the Constitution.



These "liberals" did not try to stop an official act of the US Congress as prescribed by our Constituion.

No they just burned down cities and businesses

 

[BPPLEE]

Because even if a BLM member mishandled funds, it has exactly nothing to do with any disorders that occured at BLM events. As you learned, the police caught a lot of people attacking police (killing two of them), rioting, vandalizing, and looting. But so far, they were white supremacists and other far-right people looking to disrupt the events.

Whether or not any BLM members were out in the streets mishandling funds, it has nothing to do with those disorders. C'mon.

We'll never know how many BLM members were burning and looting because most of the people responsible were not arrested and the ones that were probably didn't have their membership cards on them

 

[lifepsyop]

duped into taking part in the insurrection with no criminal intent. The guys trashing offices, assaulting police, stealing laptops, and screaming "hang Mike Pence" were quite reasonably arrested and held responsible.

yea, everyone knows the first thing you do in an insurrection is trash offices and steal laptops and podiums.

almost like they were just vandalizing things and your insurrection narrative is a fantasy. could it be?

 

[The Barbarian]

I'm thinking the arrests were for breaking into the Capitol, assaulting police, threatening the Vice President, and stuff like that. Do you have a copy of the indictment where he was charged with putting his feet on her desk.

Well, you thought wrong.

Apparently, I thought right. You don't seem to have any evidence of an indictment for putting feet on a desk.

Many arrests and detainments were only for being on the premises.

Which, of course, is a crime, when the building is closed to visitors but supposedly a misdemeanor, unless there are aggravating circumstances like breaking windows or doors.

It's funny you're even trying to be skeptical about it, because it's your own narrative to begin with.... this is an organized "insurrection" remember?

That's the interesting part; some of the perps actually planned it on social media. Made it easy for the FBI...

The storming of Capitol Hill was organized on social media. (Published 2021)

www.nytimes.com

The reason there was not more bloodshed on Jan. 6 emerged through investigation into the Oath Keepers, a vigilante organization composed mostly of former military and police. During their trials for seditious conspiracy, members of the Oath Keepers testified about weapons caches in hotels and vans, stashed near Washington, D.C. As one member described it, “I had not seen that many weapons in one location since I was in the military.”

The Oath Keepers were following Washington law by not carrying the weapons in the district, while waiting for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act, which gives the president the authority to deploy the military domestically for law enforcement.

The militia was waiting for orders from Trump. That was all that kept U.S. democracy safe from armed warfare that day.
How Networked Incitement Fueled the January 6 Capitol Insurrection

Did you really not know any of this?

everyone present that day was part of a diabolical insurrection and organized coup attempt.

You're a bit overwrought here. Calm yourself, and realize that a great number of those people were likely "useful fools" used by the guys who actually planned the insurrection. They were guilty of nothing more than unlawful entry and extreme gullibility.

That is what you believe.

You dreamed up a foolish misrepresentation, and you want me to believe it. Sorry.

 

[lifepsyop]

No they just burned down cities and businesses

meh, those were just people, families, and stuff. they can be replaced.

the real tragedy is when an "idea" is threatened... "muh sacred universal democracy."

/s

 

[BPPLEE]

Just because they didn't assault police officers, trash Congressional offices, and steal laptops, they get a pass. No fair!


Which is probably why the majority of them weren't indicted. Why is that a surprise? They might have been guilty of some misdemeanor or another regarding unlawful entry, but the FBI was after the major criminals involved.

Which seems right to me. I suspect a lot of those people where just duped into taking part in the insurrection with no criminal intent. The guys trashing offices, assaulting police, stealing laptops, and screaming "hang Mike Pence" were quite reasonably arrested and held responsible.

If only the looters and arsonists had been prosecuted with the same zeal

 

[The Barbarian]

We'll never know how many BLM members were burning and looting

We only know that the ones who were caught were mostly white surpremacists and other right-wing extremists. In fact, we don't have any evidence that any BLM members at all were doing any of that stuff.

because most of the people responsible were not arrested and the ones that were probably didn't have their membership cards on them

Turns out, the white supremacists didn't have membership cards on them, either. But I'm curious why you think the police didn't bother arresting the people you claim were responsible, and just caught all the right-wing extremists.

 

[The Barbarian]

No they just burned down cities and businesses

I don't think you can call Boogaloo Boise and other white supremacists, "liberals." As you know, they were the ones caught inciting and taking part in the vandalism and arson. Would you like me to show you again?

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals​

Some of those facing charges undoubtedly share far-left and anti-government views. Far-right protesters also have been arrested and charged.

AP finds most arrested in protests aren't leftist radicals

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump portrays the hundreds of people arrested nationwide in protests against racial injustice as violent urban left-wing radicals.

apnews.com

Turns out a significant number of Antifa people were involved, but apparently not BLM. And of course, the far right and white supremacists were often responsible for many of the crimes.