So after you are made clean by His blood, why do you continue sinning and stay with iniquity and nothing is changed?
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So after you are made clean by His blood, why do you continue sinning and stay with iniquity and nothing is changed?
So after you are made clean by His blood, why do you continue sinning and stay with iniquity and nothing is changed?
By this question are you implying that you're keeping, at LEAST, the 10 commandments perfectly?So after you are made clean by His blood, why do you continue sinning and stay with iniquity and nothing is changed?
No, our spirit does not die when we sin because our reborn spirit is based on His sinlessness.
The 10 commandments are NOT the law of love. They are law of condemnation.
2 Corinthians 3 "7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord."
Yes, the law is a 'ministry of death.' But, elsewhere, we find that this same law is termed:
"So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty." James 2:12
James references the two of the Decalogue to illustrate his point. But, he refers to the command "You shall love your neighbour as yourself" as the "royal" law. If you love your neighbour, you are fulfilling the royal law, and the Ten Commandments, because you will not murder, or commit adultery, if you love.
Jon
Hi Eila,
I find this statement interesting. Have you got any Scriptural backing for it?
Also, does this mean that a newly born spirit can never "die" or fall away from God?? In a word....thanks.
Jon
But, it is obvious that you have an issue with the Ten Commandments being embodied with the love of God. You turn to the passage in 2 Corinthians every time, to cast the Law in a negative light.
Yes, the law is a 'ministry of death.' But, elsewhere, we find that this same law is termed:
"So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty." James 2:12
James references the two of the Decalogue to illustrate his point. But, he refers to the command "You shall love your neighbour as yourself" as the "royal" law. If you love your neighbour, you are fulfilling the royal law, and the Ten Commandments, because you will not murder, or commit adultery, if you love.
The passage in 2 Corinthians confirms that the Decalogue is a ministry of death - to those who are under Law. But, are saved Christians under Law? "We are not under Law, but under grace." We stand on the law when we accept Jesus, His grace is sufficient. Is the Law abolished? No.
By casting the Decalogue in a negative light, you contradict Romans:
"Therefore, did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin, by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful." Romans 7:13
I think it is dangerous to bang on about the Law being a ministry of death. That verse does not imply what you take it to imply. Romans 7:13 explains to you what it means. Furthermore, David had it spot on:
"I delight to do Your will, O my God; Your Law is within my heart." Psalm 40:8
Jon
Thank you so much Eila for sharing those powerful scriptures with us. "If anybody comes and tells you the Good News and it doesn't sound like good news, then it's not the Good News." - Michael D. BridgesSalvation is all only received by grace through faith and is only lost when we do not continue to have faith in Him.
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Not to throw a rock in SDA theory, but "transgression of the Law" is not a definition, it is one of many explanation of what sin is but not the word "sin". The word "sin" in Hebrew is chatta'ah {khat-taw-aw'} one definition is "to miss"
In greek Sin is "hamartia" some definitions are, to miss the mark", "to err", "to be mistaken"
We all know that Adam first sinned. So your series of questions are a ploy to contradict Rom5:13 and implant the Law given before Adam Sinned. (nice trick)
Rm5:13for until the law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Twisted theology that warrant only a
The wage of sin is death
( Aha, Now, you use words that trully defines sin.) We were created in God image, so we are called to be Holy. We are made clean by the blood of Jesus Christ.
the answer is Yes and texts proves it;
1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
CRIB
Welcome to the forum................ Fact is, Paul explains in verse 12, how sin began in humanity, "through one man," "(Adam)"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned.
You forgot to read the above bible text Romans 5:12
Text convey that Law came to illustrate what sin is, making it more sinful. So our need for God's mercy shows even greater.
Amen. So the law isn't too bad after all.
Marc
Face it Marc, You know, and I know, that the law does'nt itemize sins that we've been commiting in our lives. By the law we're pretty good...but text say we're not judged by the Law Marc?
The law take up no issues next to that redneck flag or that centerfold. The law takes up no issue with surfing da net. No issue with a keg of beer this weekend.
Ask yourself Marc, What laws does God have written on your heart?
Marc for me, it's about how to treat my wife. How to be faithfully attend church services. How to be a better dad. It about trusting God rather than my ability to get justice. It's about getting to work on time. It's about tithing...(sheeze, that enough about me:o )
Why would God write laws on my heart laws that describes sin that I dont have trouble with? Is my God so impersonal that one size fit's all?
Do you find it hard to accept that G-d has standards we are to live by and they are written in our bibles?
Or do you believe in a 'free spirit' life?
Note not all spirits are from G-d.
Marc
God's standard is Holiness because He is Holy
I agree.
Where do we find these standards?
Are they written so we know what it is?
Hmmm, "the spirit of liberty" , liberty is from the law, not from sin Marc.....Sin is never free, the wages of sin has alway been death from the beginning before any law was given.Marc said:Or do we go about life with a 'free spirit' or 'spirit of liberty?
We know that the spirit speaks only about Christ and what His resurrection mean to us. The spirit opens our eye to the written word of God. Those who come to you preaching the Law is not sent by Christ nor by the Holy Spirit or the apostles.Marc said:How do we know if the Spirit is leading us in the right direction because not all spirits are from G-d.
You can bet you life on itMarc said:That's why we have Bibles.
Why should we defend bogus arguments, text says we're not under the Law but does not mean we should sin?Marc said:There is such thing as faith that is lawlessness.
Just because you have Jesus does that mean you can be lawless?