So then, has anything changed?

[Chriliman]

What is true racism? There is overt and systemic racism, but I don't think it matters discussing the subject if you don't understand or believe it exists.

I heard a black man say that instead of saying "black lives matter" we should say "black lives matter too". Just adding 'too' means they acknowledge all lives, but want to call attention to black lives right now. I think that's genius.

 

[TheBear]

Again, look at the large number of white folks that get off without being cuffed and stuffed at a traffic stop.

What exactly are those numbers? Please be specific, and cite your sources. Thanks.

Follow-up question - What exactly is the number of black people who are not "cuffed and stuffed at a traffic stop"?

 

[SummerMadness]

I heard a black man say that instead of saying "black lives matter" we should say "black lives matter too". Just adding 'too' means they acknowledge all lives, but want to call attention to black lives right now. I think that's genius.

The "too" is implicit, it's always been implicit, it's never been about saying black lives matter more.

Interesting. Now do the same thing in a different location, but have the other guy go first and see what happens.

The reason I say that is because the longer that car sits there with someone who appears like they're trying to break into it the more likely the police will be anonymously notified and take notice.

This experiment has been done multiple times, black males are accosted quickly. White males less so and white females even less. You demand more experiments and then refuse to accept the results unless they align with your bias. This is similar to the thread about police racial bias. One study argues that there may not be racial bias in police shootings, but there is in every other case, the chorus then screams there is no racial bias.

 

[MennoSota]

What exactly are those numbers? Please be specific, and cite your sources. Thanks.

Nah.

I shared a video, however, that gets my point across loud and clear.

 

[The Hammer of Witches]

I heard a black man say that instead of saying "black lives matter" we should say "black lives matter too". Just adding 'too' means they acknowledge all lives, but want to call attention to black lives right now. I think that's genius.

A lot better, but that does not fit the agenda they're pushing.

 

[Chriliman]

The "too" is implicit, it's always been implicit, it's never been about saying black lives matter more.

I agree, it should be implicit, but many don't see it that way and that's probably because they're being racist, which is why we should try to help them understand by making it more clear as to what black people are trying to say.

This experiment has been done multiple times, black males are accosted quickly. White males less so and white females even less. You demand more experiments and then refuse to accept the results unless they align with your bias. This is similar to the thread about police racial bias. One study argues that there may not be racial bias in police shootings, but there is in every other case, the chorus then screams there is no racial bias.

I agree there is a real racial problem in this country, but both sides of the equation have to try and understand. It shouldn't be about whites needing to understand blacks, it should be about both blacks and whites trying to understand each other and showing love towards one another, but we as Christians know that no one can love properly without first knowing the love of Christ

 

[Job8]

While I happen to agree ( and believe I agree with your reasoning) is there any particular reason you say so.

The reason I say so is that people should look at the total impact of Mr. Obama's policies in regards to the deliberate destruction of America. A genuinely patriotic President committed to fulfilling his oath of office would have handled everything differently.

 

[Chriliman]

A lot better, but that does not fit the agenda they're pushing.

It fits the agenda this particular black man was pushing, which was an agenda of helping others understand.

 

[Chriliman]

Here's a link to his fb page where you can view the video where he explains things.

https://www.facebook.com/MichaelJrComedy/?pnref=story

 

[TheBear]

Again, look at the large number of white folks that get off without being cuffed and stuffed at a traffic stop.

What exactly are those numbers? Please be specific, and cite your sources. Thanks.

Nah

Didn't think so. It's really easy to spout out unsubstantiated and unverifiable claims, isn't it? One doesn't even have to be honest enough to back up their claims. Just put it out there and people will buy it. At best, someone's individual conjecture and speculation is to be taken as fact. Get back to me when you have hard evidence from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the FBI, the National Institute of Justice and police reports. Until then, all you're doing is fueling the fires of division ... playing right into the hands of Cultural Marxism, no less.

I shared a video, however, that gets my point across loud and clear.

Oh. You posted a video. Wow. I take back everything I just said.

 

[MennoSota]

Didn't think so. It's really easy to spout out unsubstantiated and unverifiable claims, isn't it? One doesn't even have to be honest enough to back up their claims. Just put it out there and people will buy it. At best, someone's individual conjecture and speculation is to be taken as fact. Get back to me when you have hard evidence from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the FBI, the National Institute of Justice and police reports. Until then, all you're doing is fueling the fires of division ... playing right into the hands of Cultural Marxism, no less.

Oh. You posted a video. Wow. I take back everything I just said.

Thanks for posting. Your sarcasm shows that you would explain away anything that doesn't fit your preconceptions. It is a waste of time to research material that you could readily do on your own if you actually cared about it.

Google is your friend. Go use it and share if you wish.

 

[nightflight]

The "too" is implicit, it's always been implicit, it's never been about saying black lives matter more.



This experiment has been done multiple times, black males are accosted quickly. White males less so and white females even less. You demand more experiments and then refuse to accept the results unless they align with your bias. This is similar to the thread about police racial bias. One study argues that there may not be racial bias in police shootings, but there is in every other case, the chorus then screams there is no racial bias.

I always thought it was ironic, since the lives taken by violence from people other than cops seems to not be an issue.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yes, that's exactly what I meant

No, I presume that video is clear evidence of racism, but I'd still like to see what happens when the other guy goes first in a new location.

True. "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see." (Burt Lancaster from "The Crimson Pirate".)

 

[OldWiseGuy]

They talk about it. They meet within their churches and mosques. They talk with police. They have the conversation.

But what have they done about it?

 

[dogs4thewin]

What is true racism? There is overt and systemic racism, but I don't think it matters discussing the subject if you don't understand or believe it exists.

I know it exsists in fact I know it also have and it always will in this fallen world. Where me and some in this thread appear to differ is the fact that I believe CERTAIN people try to claim it more often than it is there. By certain people I do not mean all blacks or all members of any race. In fact that is why I said certain people because I am not going to judge an entire race based on some's actions. I understand that not everyone is like that.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Kids don't file complaints, they just develop a negative view of the police.

and their elders need to teach this the proper and acceptable way to deal with things and that developing a negitive view of police will change nothing. I am not saying that no one does that I am saying that EVERYONE SHOULD.

 

[Aldebaran]

I heard a black man say that instead of saying "black lives matter" we should say "black lives matter too". Just adding 'too' means they acknowledge all lives, but want to call attention to black lives right now. I think that's genius.

I've had some thoughts about this too recently. When they say "Black Lives Matter", they should put the emphasis on the word "Matter", rather than the word "Black". It changes what is being said.

 

[MennoSota]

But what have the done about it?

Not enough. But God is the only one who can effectively change the human condition and change hopelessness into hopefulness.

I stand with my brothers and sisters on the front lines and encourage them to be faithful in the fight against sin and evil.

You seem to think that it's a "them" problem when it's our problem. Be a source of hope and solution rather than an accuser, which is what the Bible labels Satan as being.

 

[TheBear]

Thanks for posting. Your sarcasm shows that you would explain away anything that doesn't fit your preconceptions. It is a waste of time to research material that you could readily do on your own if you actually cared about it.

Google is your friend. Go use it and share if you wish.

You're the one who made the claim. The onus is on YOU to back up your claims. That's how it works in discussion and debate.

That said, who are we kidding? I mean, we both know that what you said was based on your own feelings, bias and conjecture, and not based in fact. If I'm wrong, prove it. Again, the onus is on you.

 

[MennoSota]

You're the one who made the claim. The onus is on YOU to back up your claims. That's how it works in discussion and debate.

That said, who are we kidding? I mean, we both know that what you said was based on your own feelings, bias and conjecture, and not based in fact. If I'm wrong, prove it. Again, the onus is on you.

I provided the video, which shows common occurance. Go meet some black men and listen to their stories. It will be good for you to hear their stories so you can empathize with them. Contrary to the opinions of some, there are many good and Godly black men in America.