So is it a mob or not?

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I'm flipping through channels and find two people arguing over whether an extremely loud and disruptive group is a mob or not.

It's a mob!
It's not a mob!
It is too a mob!
Stop calling it a mob!

When does a group become a mob?
 
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I'm flipping through channels and find two people arguing over whether an extremely loud and disruptive group is a mob or not.

It's a mob!
It's not a mob!
It is too a mob!
Stop calling it a mob!

When does a group become a mob?

Not sure. But it appears "mob" became a talking point earlier this week. I wonder which Conservative think tank sent out an e-mail to everyone to use that particular word.
 
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I think it's fair to say that when you ambush people in elevators to scream at them and claw at the doors of the Supreme Court you're already well into mob territory, but obviously there's disagreement among us.
 
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I'm flipping through channels and find two people arguing over whether an extremely loud and disruptive group is a mob or not.

It's a mob!
It's not a mob!
It is too a mob!
Stop calling it a mob!

When does a group become a mob?

Dictionary definition of mob
mob
noun
1.
a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence.
"a mob of protesters"
synonyms: crowd, horde, multitude, rabble, mass, throng, group, gang, gathering,
verb
1.
crowd around (someone) in an unruly and excitable way in order to admire or attack them.
 
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Yup it's a mob. It's funny we are fighting over an established definition. But then the left does like to do that. Remember that it depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Come on, now...Bill Clinton is positively right-wing by today's standards: He signed the Defense of Marriage Act into law, outlawing the possibility of homosexual marriage being legalized; he oversaw the enactment of free trade agreements (e.g. NAFTA); he "allegedly" sexually assaulted and/or harassed ladies...

Maybe if Trump leaves office soon enough, he and Bill can go on a speaking tour together...the "Grab 'Em By The Presidency Tour 2020". Maybe that will bring conservatives and liberals together, finally.
 
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I don't think that using that now familiar phrase (what the definition of "is" is) means that the speaker is referring directly and only to Bill Clinton. Not any more than saying "Walk softly and carry a big stick" would have to mean that the speaker is extolling Theodore Roosevelt. ;)
 
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Okay, but who else has said "it depends on what your definition of 'is' is"? Roosevelt himself apparently cited a West African proverb as the source of the famous saying that he is now credited with, implying that it must've had some currency as a generalized idiom before he much more famously said it himself, or at least that he wanted people to believe it did.

I'm pretty sure no one in the history of humanity before Bill Clinton (and no one in its history after him except those who intended their audience to understand it as a reference to his having said it) ever said "it depends on what your definition of 'is' is".
 
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Yup it's a mob. It's funny we are fighting over an established definition. But then the left does like to do that. Remember that it depends on what your definition of "is" is.
Right wingers believe in alternative facts. I can see why they believe in alternative definitions.
 
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Right wingers believe in alternative facts. I can see why they believe in alternative definitions.

Left wingers believe in no facts, just emotion. So who on the left can tell?
 
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Left wingers believe in no facts, just emotion. So who on the left can tell?
That's is an ironic falsehood. I can actually cite Kellyanne Conway claiming the are alternative facts, so it's not much of a stretch to conclude that alternative definitions are a thing. You, however, cannot find anyone on "the left" who avers the don't believe in facts, only emotion.
 
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You, however, cannot find anyone on "the left" who avers the don't believe in facts, only emotion.

Hence our current conversation concerning droning masses of violent mobs.
 
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Dictionary definition of mob
mob
noun
1.
a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence.
"a mob of protesters"
synonyms: crowd, horde, multitude, rabble, mass, throng, group, gang, gathering,
verb
1.
crowd around (someone) in an unruly and excitable way in order to admire or attack them.

You beat me to it!
 
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