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So I keep evolving perfectly, and all the feminine are attracted to me? Why?

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No but seriously, if it comes down to who will be a potential partners mate, you will give me center stage because I am more adapted than you?

You still don't know anything about evolution, nor biology, or even science in general.

Do you actually make any attempt to learn?
 
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You still don't know anything about evolution, nor biology, or even science in general.

Do you actually make any attempt to learn?

Why can I not cash in, on Evolution?

Is there some rule, that Evolution is for looking not touching?

You are saying you are happy to be useless?
 
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Why can I not cash in, on Evolution?

Is there some rule, that Evolution is for looking not touching?

You are saying you are happy to be useless?

I repeat: You still don't know anything about evolution, nor biology, or even science in general.

Do you actually make any attempt to learn?
 
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No but seriously, if it comes down to who will be a potential partners mate, you will give me center stage because I am more adapted than you?
I just said "A lack of wisdom teeth is not a trait that leads to sexual selection".

More adapted isn't a useful way of describing someone. It isn't a list that we can add up to a number... it's a whole pile of traits that help or hinder your chances in whatever environment you happen to be in.

Less chances of serious infections from wisdom teeth is probably a good trait in the long term, but it probably won't be particularly significant in the course of an individuals life.

You realise this destroys the notion of the Nash Equilibrium?

Given how chaotic and changeable the history of natural world is, Nash Equilibrium strikes me as almost impossible.

I'm not trying to corner you, maybe Evolution isn't something that develops out of a partnership? Like the entire species would have to put people like me first, before we would see wisdom teeth removed? You would do that? Even if you have wisdom teeth?

Evolution isn't a choice.

Your trait on its own won't get you massive advantages in finding a mate... but statistically you and your offspring will probably have health advantages so it could become more common.

However as you live in an environment with excellent healthcare it's not as big as advantage as it would have been 2000 years ago.
 
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Why can I not cash in, on Evolution?

Is there some rule, that Evolution is for looking not touching?

You are saying you are happy to be useless?
Not to worry. Science has your back bro. Just get some of the product in this video and you will be golden:

 
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I just said "A lack of wisdom teeth is not a trait that leads to sexual selection".

If I advertise my lack of wisdom teeth, it is a sexual selective relevant trait?

But I agree, cutting branches off the tree does not necessitate mutation of the tree to compensate, it simply means that the tree will have to respond to other selection pressures, to make up for the branches it does not have.

It is the seed that determines the tree's survival, not its branches.
 
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If I advertise my lack of wisdom teeth, it is a sexual selective relevant trait?

But I agree, cutting branches off the tree does not necessitate mutation of the tree to compensate, it simply means that the tree will have to respond to other selection pressures, to make up for the branches it does not have.

It is the seed that determines the tree's survival, not its branches.

But the branches of a tree do help determine a tree's survival.
 
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If I advertise my lack of wisdom teeth, it is a sexual selective relevant trait?
I've said no multiple times. It's really not a particularly appealing trait.

But I agree, cutting branches off the tree does not necessitate mutation of the tree to compensate, it simply means that the tree will have to respond to other selection pressures, to make up for the branches it does not have.

It is the seed that determines the tree's survival, not its branches.
As a species yes. Mutation is not relevant to a tree during its life.
 
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But the branches of a tree do help determine a tree's survival.

On the basis of the seed!

You saw just now, here, that you were not providing "foundation" (when it was needed).

What I think you confuse, is that the branch is able to change the seed, via the tree.

You want to say "No, I have survival in the variety of branches" as if you do not have to give account of what it meant to the seed - this is deceptive?
 
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On the basis of the seed!

You saw just now, here, that you were not providing "foundation" (when it was needed).

What I think you confuse, is that the branch is able to change the seed, via the tree.

You want to say "No, I have survival in the variety of branches" as if you do not have to give account of what it meant to the seed - this is deceptive?

Except that branches of a tree allow a tree to have leaves. If a tree does not have leaves, it cannot photosynthesize and it will die.
Branches also allow a tree to grow seeds to grow more trees.
 
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Except that branches of a tree allow a tree to have leaves. If a tree does not have leaves, it cannot photosynthesize and it will die.
Branches also allow a tree to grow seeds to grow more trees.

No amount of branching, is ever going to change the seed, from it's type.

The best you can hope to say is that with enough trimming, the tree can be made to look like something it wasn't originally intended to be.

You seem to live in a fantasy world where with the right selection pressures, any tree can become any other tree.
 
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And why do you not back up your theory, when it is needed? If I am more "evolved", speak up! Help me use it to my advantage?

In the faith, we defer to the one who wants to serve, we don't get in his way - what good would it be if we said "no, don't serve"?

I have no wisdom teeth and that is evolved, you therefore be ready to acknowledge it?
 
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No amount of branching, is ever going to change the seed, from it's type.

The best you can hope to say is that with enough trimming, the tree can be made to look like something it wasn't originally intended to be.

You seem to live in a fantasy world where with the right selection pressures, any tree can become any other tree.

And why do you not back up your theory, when it is needed? If I am more "evolved", speak up! Help me use it to my advantage?

In the faith, we defer to the one who wants to serve, we don't get in his way - what good would it be if we said "no, don't serve"?

I have no wisdom teeth and that is evolved, you therefore be ready to acknowledge it?

The only person living in a fantasy world here is you. Not having wisdom teeth does not make your more evolved, this has been explained to you several times now.
 
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[...]Your phrase "more evolution", does not make sense.

Even the phrase "more evolved" when talking about individuals in the same population does not make sense.

You are trying to prescribe that they do not make sense?

To be born without wisdom teeth is possibly an advantageous trait... that does not make it a sexually selected trait.

Why not?

You are unwilling to vouch for greater Evolution?

What about Jesus?

You are unwilling to vouch for His obedience having a greater effect on Mankind?
 
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You are trying to prescribe that they do not make sense?

No, I'm just stating that those phrases not not make sense given how evolution is understood to work.


Because no one cares whether or not their partner was born with wisdom teeth... and no one can even tell.

You are unwilling to vouch for greater Evolution?
That sentence doesn't make sense, because the phrase "greater Evolution" doesn't make sense.

What about Jesus?

Not relevant in any way.

He didn't physically reproduce and humanity has genetically barely changed in 2000 years anyway.

You are unwilling to vouch for His obedience having a greater effect on Mankind?

Genetically humans are basically indistinguishable from the humans before the birth of Jesus, so it's not relevant to evolution.
 
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