Skulls, Halloween, dark stuff...

[faroukfarouk]

And your point is?

There is indeed a conflict between spiritual light and darkness and the believer needs to be equipped with the truth, in order to shine for the Lord.

Aesthetically, though, it can be different.

For example, who would expect women to go to church wearing only white mascara and bright pink lipstick, rather than black mascara or dark lipstick?

It's a case of apples and oranges, really.

(Two cents'.)

 

[Jimmy P]

Point?

Ok, well, so many talk of the church as being all light and no darkness...but actually the church does have 'darkness' and it's not evil...

 

[brinny]

Point?

Ok, well, so many talk of the church as being all light and no darkness...but actually the church does have 'darkness' and it's not evil...

what darkness specifically are ya' speakin' of?

 

[Wandering Cat Lady]

Sure, if you shut all the lights off, it's dark in a church...

Does make you wonder why clergymen and judges and the likes wear black.

 

[brinny]

Sure, if you shut all the lights off, it's dark in a church...

Does make you wonder why clergymen and judges and the likes wear black.

hmmmmmm....never really thought about why some wear black.....

 

[Wandering Cat Lady]

Found this on a site talking about why priests wear black, more specifically, Catholic priests, on this particular website:

The Roman collar symbolizes obedience; the Sash or cincture around that waist, chastity; and the color black, poverty. Moreover, black is a color of mourning arid death for the priest, the symbolism is dying to oneself to rise and serve the Lord as well as giving witness of the Kingdom yet to come.

 

[Wandering Cat Lady]

Found this on a site talking about why priests wear black, more specifically, Catholic priests, on this particular website:

The Roman collar symbolizes obedience; the Sash or cincture around that waist, chastity; and the color black, poverty. Moreover, black is a color of mourning arid death for the priest, the symbolism is dying to oneself to rise and serve the Lord as well as giving witness of the Kingdom yet to come.

 

[brinny]

gettin' back to halloween, etc...it used to be me fav'rite time and i LOVED all the pretend and all the festivities, etc.....i still don't object to li'l kids trick or treating, etc.

but the issue of "darkness" is a slippery slope....and God help us with how we all "swoon" over "cool-ness"......cool-ness is associated with "darkness" and it mesmerizes the masses.....and jus' like da li'l sheeps most are, dey wants ta be'z "cool" too and furiously so......and would pay almost any price to do so....

Good thread, in that it opened up a much-needed place to discuss what most are oblivious to....and that is, the "degrees of darkness" and how alluring it is.

Critical thinking and with utmost clarity is sorely needed. Hopefully there will be more such discussion in this thread. It would be most edifying.

(I was considering posting a most forboding sweet dreams picture but i refrained)

G'nite.

 

[brinny]

double post

i see Jims haz changed his avatar......who IS that anyway?

ok, this calls fer a sweet dreams image

G'nite, sweet dreams y'all

 

[faroukfarouk]

Found this on a site talking about why priests wear black, more specifically, Catholic priests, on this particular website:

The Roman collar symbolizes obedience; the Sash or cincture around that waist, chastity; and the color black, poverty. Moreover, black is a color of mourning arid death for the priest, the symbolism is dying to oneself to rise and serve the Lord as well as giving witness of the Kingdom yet to come.

I understand that clergy have their symbolism. Regarding the issues of priesthood, the Epistle to the Hebrews shows how the finished work of Christ drastically alters conceptions of what a priest is and is not.

I prefer to look at matters of color of clothing in aesthetic rather than religious terms.

 

[Jimmy P]

Coolness associated with darkness? Seriously? So when it snows this year, everybody will be like "Oh look how dark, isn't that dark?" Or "Anybody up for a dark drink?"

 

[faroukfarouk]

Coolness associated with darkness? Seriously? So when it snows this year, everybody will be like "Oh look how dark, isn't that dark?" Or "Anybody up for a dark drink?"

... and can you figure women having to go to church in white mascara and lipstick, instead of black and red?

 

[Jimmy P]

haha, that would be a sight my friend...

 

[Wandering Cat Lady]

Ironically, in many cultures, white has been (and some still maintain this) the color of mourning, to reflect a celebration of life. Other colors have also been used as mourning colors, for different reasons. Black came primarily from the Roman and Victorian eras. I can't find much on the protection against ghosts and the likes, but I did find one site that did not seem TOO credible, that said that black dates back to the Pagan ways of the Roman Empire, where they would use black to protect themselves from the ghost of the person who had died because they feared death...they were afraid the ghost would come back and also kill them, or take their life, so black was used out of fear. Lotsa stuff out there, don't know what to believe.

Kinda wish this conversation had stayed where it was...it was much more helpful to me...I have an open mind but this all is going over my head.

 

[faroukfarouk]

haha, that would be a sight my friend...

Clearly huge numbers of Christian women do not believe that such an extreme change of coloring habits is necessary...

 

[brinny]

wut be'z illin' dat guy in yer avatar jims?

 

[Jimmy P]

wut be'z illin' dat guy in yer avatar jims?

Ghost Pepper Sauce

 

[brinny]

Ironically, in many cultures, white has been (and some still maintain this) the color of mourning, to reflect a celebration of life. Other colors have also been used as mourning colors, for different reasons. Black came primarily from the Roman and Victorian eras. I can't find much on the protection against ghosts and the likes, but I did find one site that did not seem TOO credible, that said that black dates back to the Pagan ways of the Roman Empire, where they would use black to protect themselves from the ghost of the person who had died because they feared death...they were afraid the ghost would come back and also kill them, or take their life, so black was used out of fear. Lotsa stuff out there, don't know what to believe.

Kinda wish this conversation had stayed where it was...it was much more helpful to me...I have an open mind but this all is going over my head.

That's interesting.......

pagans r' skeeerered o' death?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Ironically, in many cultures, white has been (and some still maintain this) the color of mourning, to reflect a celebration of life. Other colors have also been used as mourning colors, for different reasons. Black came primarily from the Roman and Victorian eras. I can't find much on the protection against ghosts and the likes, but I did find one site that did not seem TOO credible, that said that black dates back to the Pagan ways of the Roman Empire, where they would use black to protect themselves from the ghost of the person who had died because they feared death...they were afraid the ghost would come back and also kill them, or take their life, so black was used out of fear. Lotsa stuff out there, don't know what to believe.

Kinda wish this conversation had stayed where it was...it was much more helpful to me...I have an open mind but this all is going over my head.

I remember watching the funeral of King Hussein of Jordan in '99, where white was the traditional color of mourning in the Kingdom.

 

[brinny]

Ghost Pepper Sauce

nah, wuzzup wif him, mon?