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[AlbertaBoy]

The veil wasn't lifted it was torn!

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The visible and the invisible world are in close contact. Could the veil be lifted, we would see evil angels pressing their darkness around us and working with all their power to deceive and destroy. Wicked men are surrounded, influenced, and aided by evil spirits. The man of faith and prayer has yielded his soul to divine guidance, and angels of God bring to him light and strength from heaven.

I would suggest that the person you refer to was not talking about the veil in the sanctuary.

 

[freeindeed2]

The veil wasn't lifted it was torn!

It sure was. Yet the Jews sewed it back together (as is eveident by the way they carried on the Temple services until it was destroyed). 2 Cor. 3 tells us that anytime we read Moses' writings the veil is firmly in place and that if we turn to Christ the veil is removed.

I only wish that more law-based 'Christians' realized that the veil was absolutely torn. Maybe you can help get the message out. Jesus is our everything!

In CHRIST alone...

 

[freeindeed2]

I just wanted to say that I stood up to anti-Gospel, anti-Biblical, anti-Jesus statements made on the main forum in the Daily Devotional thread and have been reported 4 times. So I may not be too far behind you Night!

I would rather be banned for a month from the TRAD-protected SDA boards on CF than banned from eternity for teaching heresy.

I make NO apologies for presenting Christ alone for salvation and for questioning the anit-Gospel rhetoric on the main board. I only wish/hope the mods were/are as concerned and willing to hold those who present the trash there accountable. I highly doubt they are (but still holding out hope!).

Anyway...there are plenty of lost people who have never heard the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Maybe someday this forum will be open to it also...

...all in God's timing. I pray the veil will be lifted.

In Christ alone...

TO THE REPORTER OF THIS POST:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GO POST SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO COME HERE!!!

In Christ alone...

 

[NightEternal]

Hmmmmmmm. A certain someone returns and the Prog reports commence.

Coincidence?

Not.

 

[freeindeed2]

Hmmmmmmm. A certain someone returns and the Prog reports commence.

Coincidence?

Not.

I have 4 or 5 against me. All for standing up for Christ alone!

In Christ alone...

 

[NightEternal]

There has to be some way we can lobby for a rule that does not allow reporting in here. I mean, why come in here if you know you are going to be offended? Why!!? WHY!!?? It makes absolutely no sense. I could find about a hundred things in the Trad area that I could easily report in a matter of about 10 minutes. But I don't.

Maybe I should start.

Seriously getting fed up with this place and sick to death of the intolerance and hate. Been wondering why I even bother coming here anymore lately.

Well, at least we have Tall's forum.

 

[freeindeed2]

There has to be some way we can lobby for a rule that does not allow reporting in here. I mean, why come in here if you know you are going to be offended? Why!!? WHY!!?? It makes absolutely no sense. I could find about a hundred things in the Trad area that I could easily report in a matter of about 10 minutes. But I don't.

Maybe I should start.

Seriously getting fed up with this place and sick to death of the intolerance and hate. Been wondering why I even bother coming here anymore lately.

Well, at least we have Tall's forum.

I hear you. I don't take anything here too seriously though. Discussion forums are supposed to be a place where you bounce things around, make contrasts, comparisons, debate, discuss, etc. It's like throwing a plate of spaghetti at a wall ans seeing what sticks. So I don't get my shorts in a wad when someone disagrees or agrees or believes in space aliens, or whatever.

I guess the report button is their way of disagreeing and throwing a tantrum. There are many other forums to go to that are much more open. But the true Gospel of Jesus Christ is just so absent here, and the forum reflects fairly accurately how the church is a closed system that excludes. It basically says, "Either believe what we believe or we don't even want you."

So if they feel like they're protecting their 'treasure' every time they report someone they don't like, then so be it. I understand the SDA church and understand their need to do so. It's not about them. It's ALWAYS about Christ.

In Christ alone...

 

[OntheDL]

Just a reminder, while PSDA forum is independent of the main SDA forum, it is still subject to the CF rules.

Do you think you should be able to flame, slander, defame anyone as you wish?

 

[OntheDL]

Wasn't I accused of hiding behind a rule and post anything I want?

And now I see you guys want to do the same thing.

 

[reddogs]

TO THE REPORTER OF THIS POST:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GO POST SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO COME HERE!!!

In Christ alone...

Free,

If you would just stop grandstanding/soap box preaching for a bit and just post in the D/D what exactly it is that you keep saying is anti-Gospel, anti-Biblical, anti-Jesus statements, that way we could all analyze and go over them........I think that would be a much better route than what was taken...

 

[freeindeed2]

Just a reminder, while PSDA forum is independent of the main SDA forum, it is still subject to the CF rules.

Do you think you should be able to flame, slander, defame anyone as you wish?

If water is wet and I make a post stating it is wet, is that flame, slander, or defamation?

In Christ alone...

 

[freeindeed2]

Free,

If you would just stop grandstanding/soap box preaching for a bit and just post in the D/D what is is that you keep saying is anti-Gospel, anti-Biblical, anti-Jesus statements, that way we could all analyze and go over them........I think that would be a much better route than what was taken...

This is not the main forum, red. I didn't post that in DL's Daily Devotional thread. I didn't even post it in the D/D forum, since it is obvious who has control there too. I posted it here, in the PROG forum. No TRAD is forced to come here and read. All the rest of the forums are for them and they are not held accountable for what they post there. No Scriptural accountability.

So, no, I won't go post it in the D/D section. I wasn't talking to any TRAD when I posted it here, yet they still feel obligated to come in a make a report.

In Christ alone...

 

[reddogs]

This is not the main forum, red. I didn't post that in DL's Daily Devotional thread. I didn't even post it in the D/D forum, since it is obvious who has control there too. I posted it here, in the PROG forum. No TRAD is forced to come here and read. All the rest of the forums are for them and they are not held accountable for what they post there. No Scriptural accountability.

So, no, I won't go post it in the D/D section. I wasn't talking to any TRAD when I posted it here, yet they still feel obligated to come in a make a report.

In Christ alone...

Well you were saying basically the same thing in the Main Forum so it seemed related, but if you disagree with something in a thread in the Main Forum, put it in the D/D section so everyone can discuss and come up with a read on it.....

 

[freeindeed2]

Well you were saying basically the same thing in the Main Forum so it seemed related....

Out of respect I said it very differently. The fact is, they can just about post whatever they want anywhere they want and not have to have any accountability, especially to Scripture.

What did you think of my idea of starting a thread on the main forum showing where EGW contradicts the Bible and herself using ONLY her quotes and Scripture? No commentary would be allowed. Since it's from official church publications this should be completely acceptable. What do you think?

In Christ alone...

 

[freeindeed2]

Well you were saying basically the same thing in the Main Forum so it seemed related, but if you disagree with something in a thread in the Main Forum, put it in the D/D section so everyone can discuss and come up with a read on it.....

Red, you're still missing the point! The point is why are they allowed to post it on the main forum in the first place?

In Christ alone...

 

[reddogs]

Red, you're still missing the point! The point is why are they allowed to post it on the main forum in the first place?

In Christ alone...

But what was it, that is my question. If it was so vital put it in the D/D so we can go over it........

 

[OntheDL]

Why you may ask as if you don't already know?

Because the spirit of prophecy quotes reflect Adventist doctrine and they are officially considered inspired writing.

Red, you're still missing the point! The point is why are they allowed to post it on the main forum in the first place?

In Christ alone...

 

[NightEternal]

Free simply told it like it is. He did not 'defame' or 'slander' anyone. If the truth hurts, that should not be his problem. And he posted it in HERE. It is amazing that people are still allowed to come in here and spite-report.

To the non-SDA mods who oversee this area: Please disregard and NV that vindictive spite-report. You are well aware that this is OUR area. We simply ask that you keep this in mind when you discuss that report.

Thank you.

 

[NightEternal]

Free,

If you would just stop grandstanding/soap box preaching for a bit and just post in the D/D what exactly it is that you keep saying is anti-Gospel, anti-Biblical, anti-Jesus statements, that way we could all analyze and go over them........I think that would be a much better route than what was taken...

Red, if you think Free doing that won't get him just as much an avalanche of spite-reports, I have to really question what alterior universe you are living in.

I just cannot fathom how someone who has been on this forum for so long and witnessed first-hand how the politics of things work out there can contend the absurd postulation that we are 'safe' to air and discuss our concerns about EGW and the church anywhere on this forum, including D&D!

Furthermore, considering the intolerant mindset running rampant out there (as well as imposing it's way into here) that EGW has never, ever written anything or held to any belief that was contradictory to Scripture or even flat-out anti-Biblical, what kind of pointless exercise in futility are you talking about here? You really expect us to swallow the idea that it is possible to reason with this mindset? Um no. Anyone here who is not a TSDA knows the score and we know that nothing, absolutely NOTHING will be considered that threatens EGW's god-like authourity or Adventist doctrine. It is a foregone conclusion, a pre-determined outcome. It has already been settled in the minds of some that none of it will be seriously considered, so I see your ridiculous advice to Free as tantamount to sticking a pacifier in his mouth, trying to soothe him with this preposterous premise that his views will be in any way entertained, much less seriously considered. It only makes us laugh and say "yeah RIGHT!"

No, they will not be considered, they will not be worked through by honest and open discussion and they will not be tolerated for long out there where Trad report snipers can ambush you with impunity.

And you truly are in La-La Land if that has not been evident to you over the history of this forum.

If Free wants to waste his time, he is more than welcome. I certainly won't be doing so anytime soon, nor will I be venturing outside of this area much either.

Because, in case you haven't noticed, many of us HAVE posted in the past where there are problem areas with EGW and the church out there. MANY, MANY TIMES. You were asleep every time this happened I presume?

We got nothing more than hate, anger, resistance, spite-reports and false charges of 'attacking' the church and 'slandering' EGW. So don't sit there and try to sell me on this idea that the D&D area is the place where that can be done, because it clearly is NOT. And it has also become clear from this report and the many others in the past we have seen in the Prog area that this is NOT THE PLACE EITHER.

No Red, you are well aware of the problem areas with EGW and the church, we have spelled them out many times. So you are just feigning ignorance here.

 

[reddogs]

Red, if you think Free doing that won't get him just as much an avalanche of spite-reports, I have to really question what alterior universe you are living in.

I just cannot fathom how someone who has been on this forum for so long and witnessed first-hand how the politics of things work out there can contend the absurd postulation that we are 'safe' to air and discuss our concerns about EGW and the church anywhere on this forum, including D&D!

Furthermore, with the intolerant mindset running rampant out there (as well as imposing it's way into here) that EGW has never, ever written anything or held to any belief that was contradictory to Scripture or even flat-out anti-Biblical, what kind of pointless exercise in futility are you talking about here? You really expect us to swallow the idea that it is possible to reason with this mindset? Um no. Anyone here who is not a TSDA knows the score and we know that nothing, absolutely NOTHING will be considered that threatens EGW's god-like authourity or Adventist doctrine. It is a foregone conclusion, a pre-determined outcome. It has already been settled in the minds of some that none of it will be seriously considered, so I see your ridiculous advice to Free as tantamount to sticking a pacifier in his mouth, trying to soothe him with this preosterous premise that his views will be in any way entertained, much less seriously considered. It only makes us laugh and say "yeah RIGHT!"

No, it will not be considered, it will not be worked through by honest anmd open discussion and it will not be tolerated for long out there where Trad report snipers can ambush you with impunity.

And you truly are in La-La Land if that has not been evident to you over the history of this forum.

If Free wants to waste his time, he is more than welcome. I certainly won't be doing so anytime soon, nor will I be venturing outside of this area anytime soon either.

Because, in case you haven't noticed, many of us HAVE posted in the past where there are problem areas with EGW and the church out there. MANY, MANY TIMES. You were asleep every time this happened I presume?

We got nothing more than hate, anger, resistance, spite-reports and false charges of 'attacking' the church and 'slandering' EGW. So don't sit there and try to sell me on this idea that the D&D area is the place where that can be done, because it clearly is NOT. And it has also become clear from this report and the many others in the past we have seen in the Prog area that this is NOT THE PLACE EITHER.

No Red, you are well aware of the problem areas with EGW and the church, we have spelled them out many times. So you are just feigning ignorance here.

No, Free seemed to have something specific that he disagreed to, but I couldnt find it, thats why I am asking.....