Sin can not take away your salvation.

[Presbyterian Continuist]

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ([bless and do not curse]Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]8‬:[bless and do not curse]1-4‬ KJV)

The original Greek manuscripts read: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. Full stop. The 'walk not after the flesh" was added later on by scribes who did not know that being in Christ Jesus causes us to automatically walk in the Spirit without having to be told to. When there is a requirement not to walk in the flesh, whose definition do we use? If we say we have to walk by the Ten Commandments, we are right back into Old Covenant law. Many churches have their own rules about what is in the flesh or the Spirit, and these rules are different according to the region you are in. We don't walk after the Spirit. How can we do that when we have the Spirit dwelling right inside us? The saying is just another way of saying we have to keep the Mosaic Law, which is not consistent with New Covenant Christianity.

 

[lori milne]

The original Greek manuscripts read: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. Full stop. The 'walk not after the flesh" was added later on by scribes who did not know that being in Christ Jesus causes us to automatically walk in the Spirit without having to be told to. When there is a requirement not to walk in the flesh, whose definition do we use? If we say we have to walk by the Ten Commandments, we are right back into Old Covenant law. Many churches have their own rules about what is in the flesh or the Spirit, and these rules are different according to the region you are in. We don't walk after the Spirit. How can we do that when we have the Spirit dwelling right inside us? The saying is just another way of saying we have to keep the Mosaic Law, which is not consistent with New Covenant Christianity.

This is all In The NT and Jesus speaking


Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. ([bless and do not curse]Matthew‬ [bless and do not curse]26‬:[bless and do not curse]41‬ KJV)


For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. ([bless and do not curse]Matthew‬ [bless and do not curse]5‬:[bless and do not curse]18-20‬ KJV)

 

[lori milne]

The original Greek manuscripts read: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. Full stop. The 'walk not after the flesh" was added later on by scribes who did not know that being in Christ Jesus causes us to automatically walk in the Spirit without having to be told to. When there is a requirement not to walk in the flesh, whose definition do we use? If we say we have to walk by the Ten Commandments, we are right back into Old Covenant law. Many churches have their own rules about what is in the flesh or the Spirit, and these rules are different according to the region you are in. We don't walk after the Spirit. How can we do that when we have the Spirit dwelling right inside us? The saying is just another way of saying we have to keep the Mosaic Law, which is not consistent with New Covenant Christianity.

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. ([bless and do not curse]Galatians‬ [bless and do not curse]5‬:[bless and do not curse]17‬ KJV)

 

[gideons300]

The original Greek manuscripts read: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. Full stop. The 'walk not after the flesh" was added later on by scribes who did not know that being in Christ Jesus causes us to automatically walk in the Spirit without having to be told to. When there is a requirement not to walk in the flesh, whose definition do we use? If we say we have to walk by the Ten Commandments, we are right back into Old Covenant law. Many churches have their own rules about what is in the flesh or the Spirit, and these rules are different according to the region you are in. We don't walk after the Spirit. How can we do that when we have the Spirit dwelling right inside us? The saying is just another way of saying we have to keep the Mosaic Law, which is not consistent with New Covenant Christianity.

Oscar, how exactly is this take you have expressed reconciled with this verse:

"Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh."?

If what you are saying is true, then a married pastor who is having an affair with a member in the congregation is still considered to be walking in the Spirit?

We are warned that if as a believer we sow to the flesh, we shall reap corruption. If we sow to the spirit, we shall reap everlasting life.

There is a lie that satan has succeeded in getting established in the church that as believers, we have no responsibilities, that nothing is "required" of us, but it flies in the face of almost every one of the epistles. God has plainly spoken that to whom much is given, much is required. We are given instruction after instruction as to how to walk so that we please God, yet in these last days the lie is now sprouting wings that we can live unto ourselves, and tht there is no danger for us once the "prayer" has been made. Yet the scriptures are full of warnings that this is not the case at all, and in fact predicts that suc h a teaching will come about in the last days.

We have mistaken obedience to the Sprit within as "being under the law" and now teach that obedience is good, of course, but even if we disobey, even if we walk in total rebellion to the proddings, the leadings, the corrections, and the chastenings if necessary, that God gives to us to make sure we walk in obedience to Him, we still will hear that "Well done, thou good and faithful servant".

Who do we think these people are at the judgment that were shocked to hear that they were not sons and daughters of God at all? It is time we realized that the call for obedience has never changed from the old covenant to the new one. It is a foundation of both covenants. What has changed is that in the new covenant, our old nature, the sin nature can be put off by a radical act of faith and that a new nature....our new man... can be put on. It is because of this new nature, that we can disc over what FREE INDEED really means. Under the new covenant, He has promised to cause us to obey, glory to God but who has believed this report? We simply have a gospel that excuses our sins rather than delivering us from the power of it.

It is time we awoke to the dangerous place our teachings have led us and that we can indeed be left on the outside looking in on the last day. It is time we began to seek for the answer as to HOW to obey, for it is not by our simply trying harder, which IS the law. It is by our believing that what is impossible for us is absolutely possible with God.

We have reduced the new covenant to simply being forgiven. If that is the case, the real difference between the old and the new covenant was simply the duration of the sacrifice that covered sin. Under the old, it was once a year. Under the new, we are told it is forever. But as to changing us internally? There is really, under our current take on things, no difference at all between the two. We think we simply do the best we can and that God makes up the difference. We are limiting the Holy one of Israel by our unbelief and it is that unbelief that is at the root of our problem. It is there that we will find the key to the solution that will allow us to become overcomers as the darkness grows.

We miss the entire portion of the new covenant about getting new hearts...new natures... so that we are changed from the inside outward.

God is awakening us to this truth that satan has blinded us to for 1900 years. God will keep us from falling to the power of the world, the flesh and the devil and He asks but one thing from us. He asks us to yield ourselves to Him in faith that He can and He will indeed not allow us to be tempted above our ability to resist. He will equip us with shields of faith that will quench ALL the fiery arrows of the enemy.

We have tried to yield ourselves to God as just sinners saved by grace, but that is not what He longs for. He wants us to yield ourselves to God "as those who are alive from the dead."

When we do, we will be amazed to find out that all the promise of God are indeed real and meant to be taken just as they are written. Our God is not a man that He should lie. It is time we diligently sought for the faith that overcomes the world and its incessant pull on our hearts. It is the only truly safe place there is.


Blessings,

Gideon

 

[stevenfrancis]

I look forward to reading the scripture you will post later.

P.S. No one is saying that anyone wants to go on sinning, is not sorrowful and makes no attempt to amend their lives. I think you read something into it that was NOT there, which is not fair to anyone.

I'm not trying to be unfair. Perhaps you're right. So what IS the issue exactly. What am I gathering scripture about? You said that Jesus blood covers all sins. Like that was forever. That one may not go on and lose their salvation. If this is the gist, then yes, the scriptures I've accumulated will address the point that one may indeed lose salvation through free will choices against God. Sin. After damaging or breaking that relationship with God, one can then again repair it with repentance. So long as there is repentance of heart. Work again. I'm off on Sundays.

Okay.....just to get things going:

Salvation is a gift of God:

Eph 2: 8* For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God -- 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

We accept that gift through faith, which itself is a gift.

We are sinners

When we sin, we must be repentant.

Rom 2:4* Or do you presume upon the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience? Do you not know that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 5 But by your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. 6* For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.

This is just a start. I apologize. I really must go until the morning, when I can lay out the rest of this.

May God bless and keep you always.

Steven

 

[lori milne]

That's also what John the Baptist preached, and he was an Old Covenant prophet. It looks like I have to continually remind you that Jesus was still part of the Old Covenant at that stage preaching to Old Covenant Jews. That's what folks had to do in the Old Covenant. Jesus was pointing toward a much higher standard than was accepted under the Old Covenant. What He was showing was an impossible standard for those who were trying to be holy in their own strength. In a way, He was preparing His disciples for the New Covenant, so that instead of trying in their own strength to attain an impossible standard, they would accept Him in faith, be filled with the Spirit and allow the Holy Spirit to work in them to progressively sanctify them. The New Covenant says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and that there is none righteous, no, not one. So that is the starting point for a sinner under the New Covenant being convicted of his sinfulness and wanting to get right with God. No one can do that unless there is a work of the Holy Spirit in them to convict them of sin and give them saving faith. A person can be a convicted sinner trying to live a religious life and still be lost unless the Holy Spirit gives them saving faith to accept Christ as Saviour. A person can say the words of commitment to Christ, but still be lost unless the Holy Spirit has changed his heart. That's why we have many powerless religious people in our churches trying to be Christians and always feeling that they need to repent all the time. This is because they are convicted of their sin but not truly born again yet. Because once a person is born again, that sin consciousness disappears because the sin has been replaced by the righteousness of Christ. Then the kingdom of God for them is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. I have the answer. I have been saying it all along. The gospels describe the ministry and teaching of Jesus to unconverted, Old Covenant Jews. This is why the truths in the epistles are not set out in them. Although the writers of the gospels knew where they stood in Christ, their intention was to give an accurate account of the ministry of Jesus without writing in what they knew under the New Covenant. That's why we have to balance the gospels with Acts and the epistles. The Bondage Breaker by Neil Anderson is a good book to read to show you where you stand in Christ.

Jesus revised the relation ship between the children of GOD And HIM /God !! he doesn't at any time teach them what they new to be ok or expectable which is what it sounds like your saying, vs what I mean or what it directly says ! which is you can be judged after Being saved!


In my direct KJV readings not COMMENTARY readings or today's pastors teachings but direct bible study I see a very clear picture of Jesus teachings. So clear In fact it backs up basically all of the OT and what Paul even speaks contrary to many "Scholars who thinks he undermined Jesus teachings! By Saying once saved always saved or saved by grace" funny stuff really" that is people think Paul was against Jesus"he wasn't!!


Jesus said don't leave your mule in a ditch. Don't make your rituals larger then your relation ship with the father /God. He was showing them sincerity was lost with repetition. And being faithful to him And having faith in him to give you/ us all the strength to turn from sin Literally, not figuratively, Some Christians seem to leave Christ and all he spoke out of there walk.

Why do churches peach all the sweetness and no salt. We are the salt of the earth!! Why do we only like the sugary taste of the saved by grace in the bible. Well it's the easy road and every one likes to take it easy!

God didn't just give In to his disobedient children and say ok you can have sin and still live! NO that was the original lie from satin! You have the answer I assume but hears the reply to your answer ! Before I even read it ! Paul's teachings is all you seem to hold on to read everything out side of Paul's writings and then read Paul's letters!


Paul was only speaking to Pharisees that's were stubborn in there ways and Jews that went back to the old law and Turned from being saved! It was him fighting " fighting " the old covenant, so why apply it in your walk , your not a stubborn Jew or Pharisee! Jesus and his friends that lives with him all taught a universal msg! David went through adultery! Daniel caught persecution of faith! These are all there for Certain times In your walk!


Paul doesn't even mean what your taking it to mean saved by grace. Yes but it's not a sin free club card. I mean even Paul says after obtaining the knowledge if you still sin " willfully"/ iniquity There is no sacrifice for that sin! He is clear as a bell .

A lot of Christians as I am don't like to hear this stuff at all !!!! I get it your being or feeling convicted!! And definitely don't like to think GOD FORBID your accountable for your sins! I won't sugar coat this like a pastor today, It's not even me talking it's the word of God You can fall away if your practice sin / iniquity that is being a slave to sin. It is written OT & NT it's all there!

God spits out the backsliders we all know this stuff! Stop looking at the versus that challenge you to stop sinning and think hmm I wonder what that meant!!

I truly like how you seem to have the answers I think that is a great thing !! but they are contrary to what Jesus says. I never listen to commentary or people's perspectives I study the WORD only!
I am a Christ following servant =Christian! Humbly your sister in Christ Jesus

 

[lori milne]

Faith is not to believe that we are or can be perfect. Faith is belief in Christ and His strength in us. Jesus calls us to love. Love God and love each other. Our faith is also in that this life is not our home. It is not the home of spiritual people because this world is carnal. We are called to growth, walking with God and sanctification. Not perfection.

I like it but we must be cleansed of the old man That's purification We can't be living willful sin filled lives. U gotta ask God to forgive you & turn from your sin repent. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. ([bless and do not curse]Hebrews‬ [bless and do not curse]6‬:[bless and do not curse]4-6‬ KJV)

 

[lori milne]

Faith is not to believe that we are or can be perfect. Faith is belief in Christ and His strength in us. Jesus calls us to love. Love God and love each other. Our faith is also in that this life is not our home. It is not the home of spiritual people because this world is carnal. We are called to growth, walking with God and sanctification. Not perfection.

God bless sister
I truly love that baby picture

 

[lori milne]

When did Jesus say those things? Before His death and resurrection or after? If it was before, He was still speaking to people under the terms of the Old Covenant. The New Covenant did not begin until Jesus had ascended as the Risen Christ to the right hand of the Father and had sent the Holy Spirit to the gathered disciples on the Day of Pentecost. Of course there were some principles that Jesus taught that were transferred over to the New Covenant and these were amplified by the Paul and the other Epistle writers. We have to see that it was Jesus the man who taught during His earthly ministry and His ministry was directed toward unconverted Old Covenant Jews. But when He ascended up on high, it was the Risen Christ who revealed New Covenant realities to Paul and the others through the Holy Spirit. So what the Risen and Ascended Christ has revealed in the epistles is the defining truth of the New Covenant. We can be perfect, but not as humans. We are already perfected through the blood of Christ and the righteousness of Christ conferred on us. So, positionally, we are already perfect and have the mind of Christ. Christ would not have accepted us as brothers and sisters if it were otherwise. But we are also being developmentally sanctified so that our behaviour and conduct matches who we actually are in Christ. The full matching will happen only when we reach glory to be with Him. I don't see that stated anywhere either in that account or anywhere else. That is your theory about it, and it is a non Biblical theory. It was not the Lord's choice for Peter to walk on the water. It was Peter's decision. We are not told why Peter did it. Certainly there was no intended lesson for us in it except that when we have the permission of the Lord we can do the impossible. I remind you that Jesus was speaking to unconverted Jews. In the New Covenant it is different. It is not a turning from sin, but an acceptance of Christ as Saviour. On the Day of Pentecost in response to the crowd saying "what do we do?" Peter said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." The act of believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and accepting Him as Saviour causes us to be born again of the Spirit of God and our sin is taken off us and put on His cross and we are covered by His blood and given His righteousness. The sin question is totally dealt with so that we are no longer sin conscious. Constant sinning and repenting is part of the Old Covenant and is a sign of a carnal mind which is spiritual death and anyone who is in that situation still needs to be saved. If that is the case, then the person was not born again in the first place. He might have got religion and is a faithful church member, walking the walk and saying all the right words, but he is still in his sin. He is trying to be something he is not. A truly born again person is not for the world, but fully for Christ. In fact, he has Christ living within him. We cannot walk out of His hand because we were never in it. He is in our heart, because He has given every born again Christian a new heart. A lot of the sayings you are saying like "walking out of his hand", etc, although they are popular sayings in our churches to give Sunday School kids some kind of understanding of what Christ is to us, they are non-Biblical. No wonder Paul said to the Corinthians that he could not teach them as mature adults who could receive meat, but as children still needing milk.

The "others " you speak of were teaching every word of Jesus Christ correctly and the same nothing changed! Mathew mark Luke John even Peter!
Paul however did not teach the same in all his writings! He wasn't opposing btw he was battling it out with people he once new because as you know Paul was a Pharisee who hated Christ!
He want giving up on the Jews and going to the Gentiles like the others!
This what your saying is contrary to what The Bible says.

 

[lori milne]

When did Jesus say those things? Before His death and resurrection or after? If it was before, He was still speaking to people under the terms of the Old Covenant. The New Covenant did not begin until Jesus had ascended as the Risen Christ to the right hand of the Father and had sent the Holy Spirit to the gathered disciples on the Day of Pentecost. Of course there were some principles that Jesus taught that were transferred over to the New Covenant and these were amplified by the Paul and the other Epistle writers. We have to see that it was Jesus the man who taught during His earthly ministry and His ministry was directed toward unconverted Old Covenant Jews. But when He ascended up on high, it was the Risen Christ who revealed New Covenant realities to Paul and the others through the Holy Spirit. So what the Risen and Ascended Christ has revealed in the epistles is the defining truth of the New Covenant. We can be perfect, but not as humans. We are already perfected through the blood of Christ and the righteousness of Christ conferred on us. So, positionally, we are already perfect and have the mind of Christ. Christ would not have accepted us as brothers and sisters if it were otherwise. But we are also being developmentally sanctified so that our behaviour and conduct matches who we actually are in Christ. The full matching will happen only when we reach glory to be with Him. I don't see that stated anywhere either in that account or anywhere else. That is your theory about it, and it is a non Biblical theory. It was not the Lord's choice for Peter to walk on the water. It was Peter's decision. We are not told why Peter did it. Certainly there was no intended lesson for us in it except that when we have the permission of the Lord we can do the impossible. I remind you that Jesus was speaking to unconverted Jews. In the New Covenant it is different. It is not a turning from sin, but an acceptance of Christ as Saviour. On the Day of Pentecost in response to the crowd saying "what do we do?" Peter said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." The act of believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and accepting Him as Saviour causes us to be born again of the Spirit of God and our sin is taken off us and put on His cross and we are covered by His blood and given His righteousness. The sin question is totally dealt with so that we are no longer sin conscious. Constant sinning and repenting is part of the Old Covenant and is a sign of a carnal mind which is spiritual death and anyone who is in that situation still needs to be saved. If that is the case, then the person was not born again in the first place. He might have got religion and is a faithful church member, walking the walk and saying all the right words, but he is still in his sin. He is trying to be something he is not. A truly born again person is not for the world, but fully for Christ. In fact, he has Christ living within him. We cannot walk out of His hand because we were never in it. He is in our heart, because He has given every born again Christian a new heart. A lot of the sayings you are saying like "walking out of his hand", etc, although they are popular sayings in our churches to give Sunday School kids some kind of understanding of what Christ is to us, they are non-Biblical. No wonder Paul said to the Corinthians that he could not teach them as mature adults who could receive meat, but as children still needing milk.

Yes no one man can live a full life with out sinning !
But Jesus say we can !!!and because he washes our sins away it's as if we never sinned and now we can do it!! Drink the water he has and He says youll never thirst again ! This is for sin!! Desire to sin"
He says I'll never give you more in temptation then you can handle !!! this is him saying you can turn from sin!! Believe you can walk out on the waters like him!! He believes in you !!why can't you believe in it to! Is it your flesh ? The world! Listen to him only and you can!!

 

[lori milne]

When did Jesus say those things? Before His death and resurrection or after? If it was before, He was still speaking to people under the terms of the Old Covenant. The New Covenant did not begin until Jesus had ascended as the Risen Christ to the right hand of the Father and had sent the Holy Spirit to the gathered disciples on the Day of Pentecost. Of course there were some principles that Jesus taught that were transferred over to the New Covenant and these were amplified by the Paul and the other Epistle writers. We have to see that it was Jesus the man who taught during His earthly ministry and His ministry was directed toward unconverted Old Covenant Jews. But when He ascended up on high, it was the Risen Christ who revealed New Covenant realities to Paul and the others through the Holy Spirit. So what the Risen and Ascended Christ has revealed in the epistles is the defining truth of the New Covenant. We can be perfect, but not as humans. We are already perfected through the blood of Christ and the righteousness of Christ conferred on us. So, positionally, we are already perfect and have the mind of Christ. Christ would not have accepted us as brothers and sisters if it were otherwise. But we are also being developmentally sanctified so that our behaviour and conduct matches who we actually are in Christ. The full matching will happen only when we reach glory to be with Him. I don't see that stated anywhere either in that account or anywhere else. That is your theory about it, and it is a non Biblical theory. It was not the Lord's choice for Peter to walk on the water. It was Peter's decision. We are not told why Peter did it. Certainly there was no intended lesson for us in it except that when we have the permission of the Lord we can do the impossible. I remind you that Jesus was speaking to unconverted Jews. In the New Covenant it is different. It is not a turning from sin, but an acceptance of Christ as Saviour. On the Day of Pentecost in response to the crowd saying "what do we do?" Peter said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." The act of believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and accepting Him as Saviour causes us to be born again of the Spirit of God and our sin is taken off us and put on His cross and we are covered by His blood and given His righteousness. The sin question is totally dealt with so that we are no longer sin conscious. Constant sinning and repenting is part of the Old Covenant and is a sign of a carnal mind which is spiritual death and anyone who is in that situation still needs to be saved. If that is the case, then the person was not born again in the first place. He might have got religion and is a faithful church member, walking the walk and saying all the right words, but he is still in his sin. He is trying to be something he is not. A truly born again person is not for the world, but fully for Christ. In fact, he has Christ living within him. We cannot walk out of His hand because we were never in it. He is in our heart, because He has given every born again Christian a new heart. A lot of the sayings you are saying like "walking out of his hand", etc, although they are popular sayings in our churches to give Sunday School kids some kind of understanding of what Christ is to us, they are non-Biblical. No wonder Paul said to the Corinthians that he could not teach them as mature adults who could receive meat, but as children still needing milk.

And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. ([bless and do not curse]Matthew‬ [bless and do not curse]14‬:[bless and do not curse]28‬ KJV)
It was the Lords bid

 

[lismore]

Does this mean I don't believe Jesus died on the cross for our sins ? NO he did , I do believe every word of the bible, I just don't read what sounds warm and fussy and forget the rest.
.

Hello lori

Maybe I speak for others here as well, but for me I like the warm fuzzy parts of the bible are great. I don't forget the other parts, but I still make mistakes.

God Bless You

 

[lori milne]

Just to reiterate what my original statement has and is. Cuz it gets confusing sometimes
Jesus died for us to be cleansed sin free like him and have an opportunity to be spot free. Since we can't in one entire life time! Also the faith to live and grow to walk in the spirit not the flesh and stay sin free! With him only can this be done!

 

[thepromiseofgrace]

Just to reiterate what my original statement has and is. Cuz it gets confusing sometimes
Jesus died for us to be cleansed sin free like him and have an opportunity to be spot free. Since we can't in one entire life time! Also the faith to live and grow to walk in the spirit not the flesh and stay sin free! With him only can this be done!

when he cleansed us by his blood we were and are spot free forever.

 

[lori milne]

when he cleansed us by his blood we were and are spot free forever.

Not if we practice sin again iniquity and don't repent from that sin!

Hebrews 10:26
If After receiving the knowledge we then willfully sin again there is no sacrifice for that sin! This is NT after Jesus died for our sins

We have to ask for forgiveness repent stop sinning then

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Not if we practice sin again iniquity and don't repent from that sin!

Hebrews 10:26
If After receiving the knowledge we then willfully sin again there is no sacrifice for that sin! This is NT after Jesus died for our sins

We have to ask for forgiveness repent stop sinning then

Because this is not talking about the number of infringements we do every day, but a complete renouncing of our faith and a return to the world, I cannot believe that as a born again Christian with a new heart, that you would want to do this anyway. If you are using this scripture to back the notion that we have to repent for every little sin we do every day, you are seriously misquoting the scripture and taking it right out of its context.

 

[lori milne]

http://youtu.be/M4hb_Y9mGXo

 

[lori milne]

Because this is not talking about the number of infringements we do every day, but a complete renouncing of our faith and a return to the world, I cannot believe that as a born again Christian with a new heart, that you would want to do this anyway. If you are using this scripture to back the notion that we have to repent for every little sin we do every day, you are seriously misquoting the scripture and taking it right out of its context.

Iniquity habitual sin and yes turn from it means to repent

 

[lori milne]

Because this is not talking about the number of infringements we do every day, but a complete renouncing of our faith and a return to the world, I cannot believe that as a born again Christian with a new heart, that you would want to do this anyway. If you are using this scripture to back the notion that we have to repent for every little sin we do every day, you are seriously misquoting the scripture and taking it right out of its context.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: ([bless and do not curse]Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]8‬:[bless and do not curse]1-3‬ KJV)

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: ([bless and do not curse]Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]8‬:[bless and do not curse]1-3‬ KJV)

You didn't read my previous post about that reference. Paul did not say "who walk not after the flesh". This was added later by someone else. Therefore that part of the passage is unreliable and gives the impression that we are still to obey the Mosaic law to avoid condemnation. If you read the reference properly you will see that the requirement not to walk after the flesh is in direct contradiction to "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death" So, if we are free from the law of sin and death, then why have a requirement not to walk after the flesh as a condition for no condemnation? Paul is actually saying that there is no condemnation to those in Christ because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ has set us free from the law of sin and death. That is what Paul is actually saying. Inserting "who walk not after the flesh" confuses the issue, and it was put there by a later person and not Paul because total freedom in Christ did not agree with that person's theology. It may very well have been inserted in the particular manuscript by a person who believed that one must still keep the Mosaic law in order to be a genuine Christian. That teaching was invading the church during the first century and Paul wrote Galatians to refute it. Come on! You can't have one foot in Judaism and one in Christianity. Either you will love the one or hate the other. Either you are a Judaiser or a Christian. Which are you? You cannot be both.