shouldnt the ClC be added?

[rockytrails]

members of the church of the Lutheran confession are also welcome here are they not?

they have about 100 or more congregations now in the u.s. and are growing .

love their slogan
"If its not scriptural it isn't Lutheran "

 

[mrshoperose]

members of the church of the Lutheran confession are also welcome here are they not?

they have about 100 or more congregations now in the u.s. and are growing .

love their slogan
"If its not scriptural it isn't Lutheran "

What's the CIC?

 

[rockytrails]

What's the CIC?

http://clclutheran.org/main.htm

 

[mrshoperose]

http://clclutheran.org/main.htm

Aaah...Thank you for the link. I had never heard of them before now.

 

[DaRev]

EDIT: To avoid a misunderstanding.

 

[Tofferer]

They also flat out declare that the Pope is the antichrist, not unlike other organizations that I am aware of.

 

[DaRev]

They also flat out declare that the Pope is the antichrist, not unlike other organizations that I am aware of.

The papacy is antichrist, according to the Lutheran Confessions.

 

[Tofferer]

The papacy is antichrist, according to the Lutheran Confessions.

True. I had forgotten about that. I guess what I saw was a grammatological error. No matter. I don't know why, but there is something about CLC I don't quite trust, though I can not quite put my finger on it. I will have to check that website again in the morning after I get some sleep.

 

[rockytrails]

The CLC voices a number of opinions concerning the LCMS that are not necessarily true.

personal opinions are like belly bottons every one has one.

its Doctrine that matter's.

 

[Tofferer]

shouldnt the ClC be added?

members of the church of the Lutheran confession are also welcome here are they not?

they have about 100 or more congregations now in the u.s. and are growing .

love their slogan
"If its not scriptural it isn't Lutheran "

Question:

Why are you asking about this? I ask because I am a member of a Lutheran body that is not on the list either, but I have no reason to make a request such as this. Is there a particular reason you feel a need to make this request?

 

[DaRev]

EDIT:
This post was deleted because it was not meant to be argumentative. It was taken wrong.
I apologize for any misunderstanding.

 

[Tofferer]

Well, the CLC is Confessional, and they're similar to the WELS, so...

And the WELS claim some things about the LCMS that aren't true either.

According to the CLC website, they aren't similiar to the WELS.

 

[rockytrails]

True. I had forgotten about that. I guess what I saw was a grammatological error. No matter. I don't know why, but there is something about CLC I don't quite trust, though I can not quite put my finger on it. I will have to check that website again in the morning after I get some sleep.

This is what i think of the CLC
any one of my family i would trust to any of their congregations as members.
every single one of their pastors subscribe to all of the bible and the Lutheran confessions drawn from the bible.

Now if the above is true of every single LC-MS pastor than they would have just as good a record .

 

[rockytrails]

According to the CLC website, they aren't similiar to the WELS.

let me put it a different way they may not believe like wels but wels believes like them .

there was a meeting where wels pastors and clc pastors discussed
doctrine neither side at this Meeting saw any differences .


the clc was formed from congregations that broke away from the wels and els because wels and the els were to slow in braking away from the lc_ms.

that was the only reason they broke away

 

[Tofferer]

let me put it a different way they may not believe like wels but wels believes like them .

there was a meeting where wels pastors and clc pastors discussed
doctrine neither side at this Meeting saw any differences .


the clc was formed from congregations that broke away from the wels and els because wels and the els were to slow in braking away from the lc_ms.

that was the only reason they broke away

Sounds like how the LCMC broke away from the ELCA and WAN. I guess there were even members of the LC-MS at the recent gather who were impressed with LCMC and how it is far more conservative than the ELCA (just need to do away with so-called "female pastors", bad theology that one).

 

[rockytrails]

Well, the CLC is Confessional, and they're similar to the WELS, so...

And the WELS claim some things about the LCMS that aren't true either.

exactly what do we claim that is not true?

one thing we claim certainly is true about 70 years ago this conversation would have never taken place
we were like two peas in a pod what one was like so was the other where one did not go so to the other.
which one changed?

remember i am a old fellow and have old

lc_ms resources

i also have most issues of pastor Ottens Christian news

so be sure of what you say.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

a lot of our members were in their prime during the split in the 60s, and some of them transferred over from LCMS churches during the split. The councilmen from that era are full of information that you won't find in books or commentaries.

My husband said that CLC was formed, as was stated, when the WELS/ELS was dragging its feet with the separation from LCMS. Seems at least some people were still trying to extend grace at that time, but the CLC people had had enough. Other than that, he doesn't know much about them.

 

[DaRev]

exactly what do we claim that is not true?

one thing we claim certainly is true about 70 years ago this conversation would have never taken place
we were like two peas in a pod what one was like so was the other where one did not go so to the other.
which one changed?

remember i am a old fellow and have old

lc_ms resources

i also have most issues of pastor Ottens Christian news

so be sure of what you say.

It's just that both the CLC and the WELS have made statements about the LCMS that we do not believe are accurate.

Also, Herman Otten does not represent the LCMS in any way.

My post was not meant to be an attack or argumentative. While the WELS do claim some things about the LCMS that we believe are not accurate, we still get along and we honor their confessionalism.

My previous post has been edited.

 

[porterross]

The AALC and the ELCE (Evangelical Lutheran Church of England) aren't listed either and they are in altar and pulpit fellowship with the LCMS. Certainly there are others as well.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

There are other churches that are in fellowship with WELS, too, but I don't who they are. I just never looked up the list.

And while we have doctrinal issues with our brothers sisters in the LCMS we recognize them as Christians who are saved through the blood of Jesus Christ.