Shouldn't Creationism be taught at public schools?

[Platte]

Amos 9:6 NASB1995
[6] The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth, He who calls for the waters of the sea And pours them out on the face of the earth, The Lord is His name.

and they saw the God of Israel. Under his feet there was something like a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness.
Exodus 24:10 ESV

Job 22:14 LEB
[14] Thick clouds are a covering for him, so that he does not see;and he walks about on the dome of heaven.’

Ezekiel 1:22 CEB
[22] The shape above the heads of the creatures was a dome; it was like glittering ice stretched out over their heads.

Job 37:18 ESV
[18] Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?

It's your word against the Bible.

The biblical authors knew of what they spoke. And thus, they spoke of it.

How was the environment different before the Flood is something we don’t know. People living to 1000 years old would require a different environment.

 

[trophy33]

How was the environment different before the Flood is something we don’t know.

If you mean few thousands years ago, then we do know. It was not different at all (except of without industrial pollution and similar, obviously).

 

[trophy33]

The Bible however is a historical document

Bible is a library of various documents. It contains 150 songs, for example.

If you go with the definition "being written in a distant past", then yes. It can apply to any genre. If you mean "always presenting literal history", then no.

 

[Platte]

Bible is a library of various documents. It contains 150 songs, for example.

If you go with the definition "being written in a distant past", then yes. It can apply to any genre. If you mean "always presenting literal history", then no.

I’m referring to the portions of the Bible written to record the Historical account of events for the purpose of preserving their history to share with their future generations . Like the meaning of Passover. The records Moses passed down Genesis - Deuteronomy.

 

[Platte]

If you mean few thousands years ago, then we do know. It was not different at all (except of without industrial pollution and similar, obviously).

I’m referring to 4-6k years ago when people such as Adam lived much longer than we do today. Environment being the most important factor in aging - significantly more of a factor than time. Apparently the Flood changed the environment as God determined that man would only live to 120 (Genesis 6:3). After the Flood the lifespan of man gradually declined to what it is today.

 

[trophy33]

I’m referring to the portions of the Bible written to record the Historical account of events for the purpose of preserving their history to share with their future generations . Like the meaning of Passover. The records Moses passed down Genesis - Deuteronomy.

The book of Genesis was most probably written after the Babylonian exile. Meaning, its not a historical record written by eye witnesses or people living close to the "patriarchal era", but a cultural work written retrospectively.

 

[trophy33]

I’m referring to 4-6k years ago when people such as Adam lived much longer than we do today. Environment being the most important factor in aging - significantly more of a factor than time. Apparently the Flood changed the environment as God determined that man would only live to 120 (Genesis 6:3). After the Flood the lifespan of man gradually declined to what it is today.

The environment of our world even 50,000 years ago was the same as today (except of the industrial pollution, obviously).

And there is no recent global flood in the geological records of our planet. There are even trees, monuments or civilizations older than 4,000 years. For example:

Settlements of 'Polish pyramid' tomb builders found in Kujawy

Settlements belonging to the builders of 5,500-year-old Kujawy tombs, sometimes referred to as the ‘Polish Pyramids’ have been found by archeologists using drones.

scienceinpoland.pl

 

[Platte]

The environment of our world even 50,000 years ago was the same as today (except of the industrial pollution, obviously).

And there is no recent global flood in the geological records of our planet. There are even trees, monuments or civilizations older than 4,000 years. For example:

Settlements of 'Polish pyramid' tomb builders found in Kujawy

Settlements belonging to the builders of 5,500-year-old Kujawy tombs, sometimes referred to as the ‘Polish Pyramids’ have been found by archeologists using drones.

scienceinpoland.pl

I’m just referring to the Biblical account of these events. The environmental differences required to live 900-1000 years would be interesting to understand. If there was a significantly lower amount of c-14 5000 years ago what would the affect on carbon dating be? I assume we’d all agree the environment to support a lifespan in humans to be 1000 years old would be different then the environment we live in today.

 

[Platte]

The book of Genesis was most probably written after the Babylonian exile. Meaning, it’s not a historical record written by eye witnesses or people living close to the "patriarchal era", but a cultural work written retrospectively.

You’re entitled to that viewpoint. I disagree. Providing details of an event and then immediately followed up with historical chronological details is typical of historical records. I read the information about Joseph being a historical account of how the Jews became slaves in Egypt.
I believe the author was documenting events to pass them to future generations. Like why the Passover is observed

 

[trophy33]

I’m just referring to the Biblical account of these events. The environmental differences required to live 900-1000 years would be interesting to understand. If there was a significantly lower amount of c-14 5000 years ago what would the affect on carbon dating be? I assume we’d all agree the environment to support a lifespan in humans to be 1000 years old would be different then the environment we live in today.

In the context of this thread, biblical accounts of origins are not scientifically relevant. The book of Genesis was the Jewish cultural book of origins, written during the Babylonian empire.

 

[trophy33]

You’re entitled to that viewpoint. I disagree. Providing details of an event and then immediately followed up with historical chronological details is typical of historical records. I read the information about Joseph being a historical account of how the Jews became slaves in Egypt.
I believe the author was documenting events to pass them to future generations. Like why the Passover is observed

Providing details is common in many national origin stories. Read for example about Romulus and Remus, about the Egyptian origin stories or about the origin stories of China.

 

[Platte]

In the context of this thread, biblical accounts of origins are not scientifically relevant. The book of Genesis was a Jewish cultural book of origins, written during the Babylonian empire.

I agree should not be taught in science classes. But I do think teaching in history class would be reasonable. I believe Genesis - Deuteronomy was written for the purpose of documenting and passing down historical events to their future generations.

 

[trophy33]

I agree should not be taught in science classes. But I do think teaching in history class would be reasonable. I believe Genesis - Deuteronomy was written for the purpose of documenting and passing down historical events to their future generations.

I am not sure why should be Jewish stories taught in the US or EU schools as history. We have a different history.

Bible should be taught about in literature or regarding its role in our history, but not as our history.

 

[Platte]

I am not sure why should be Jewish stories taught in the US or EU schools as history. We have a different history.

Bible should be taught about in literature or regarding its role in our history, but not as history.

As part of World History.

 

[Platte]

I am not sure why should be Jewish stories taught in the US or EU schools as history. We have a different history.

Bible should be taught about in literature or regarding its role in our history, but not as our history.

Egyptian documentation regarding their History is taught. Like their early dynasties

 

[trophy33]

Egyptian documentation regarding their History is taught. Like their early dynasties

Because they were a significant empire.

 

[Platte]

In the context of this thread, biblical accounts of origins are not scientifically relevant. The book of Genesis was the Jewish cultural book of origins, written during the Babylonian empire.

Biblical accounts of origins are historical relevant Genesis was written to provide a historical record of the events of the Jewish people to pass down to their future generations. IMO gen-deu was written with the intent of recording history.

 

[Platte]

Because they were a significant empire.

So was the Jewish nation

 

[trophy33]

As part of World History.

Why not the history of Bhutan, Vietnam, Korea, Panama or Slovakia?

School classes about history should focus on influential world empires, there are too many cultures to learn about all of them.

 

[trophy33]

So was the Jewish nation

No, not really.