Should we Unite?

[Time2BCounted]

I love you ALL

Every one. One thing i do not quite get is why though, i am being described as 'militant'? Imho, standing for good is only right, and the fact people come to attack and we can put up a good defence, is a sign of militence, but i dont think this is coming from oour side.

I personally have made it very clear in several threads several times that we arent interested in pulling icons, we only want to be defined properly and close the doors to soul damning heresies.

May i ask how you who disagree with me would go about doing this?

Please dont take this as a fight. I want us to clear the air between us, because its going to take everyone to pass this.

 

[ReformedChapin]

So one can only be a Conservative Christian if one is militant? I don't understand that at all. Just because I, as a singular person, do not have the will nor the ability to do things the same way as a more aggresive Christian, I am not Conservative? That hurts.

The problem is what we are defining as militant. Everytime someone chooses conflict some CC ( a lot of times many CCs) start saying how they don't want it.

And I am not attacking anyones conservatism. Man people here need to calm down.

 

[3girls2dogs]

I love you ALL

Every one. One thing i do not quite get is why though, i am being described as 'militant'? Imho, standing for good is only right, and the fact people come to attack and we can put up a good defence, is a sign of militence, but i dont think this is coming from oour side.

I personally have made it very clear in several threads several times that we arent interested in pulling icons, we only want to be defined properly and close the doors to soul damning heresies.

May i ask how you who disagree with me would go about doing this?

Please dont take this as a fight. I want us to clear the air between us, because its going to take everyone to pass this.

I have no suggestions for you, really. I don't disagree with your point, I really don't. What I was saying is that while I understand what you are trying to do, I am not comfortable with the attention it is bringing to our little corner of the universe.

I am not good at theological arguments, and I have never been able to pull Scripture out of my memory, so for ME, and for ME ONLY, I try to be an example in my behavior, because that is how I feel the Lord can make the best use of me.

I fail many, many times, but at least this is a way that I feel God can work through me. That is what I have to offer. I, and by this, I mean only ME, can't handle hostile conflict. It is a fact of who I am. So I was only saying that I get it, I just can't do it. That's all.

 

[Criada]

Maybe we should just keep it to the Wikki threads.
Cos - is something that affects the whole of 4U, so should possibly be only in the public areas, where everyone can contribute equally.....
Just an idea.

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

I love you ALL

Every one. One thing i do not quite get is why though, i am being described as 'militant'? Imho, standing for good is only right, and the fact people come to attack and we can put up a good defence, is a sign of militence, but i dont think this is coming from oour side.

I personally have made it very clear in several threads several times that we arent interested in pulling icons, we only want to be defined properly and close the doors to soul damning heresies.

May i ask how you who disagree with me would go about doing this?

Please dont take this as a fight. I want us to clear the air between us, because its going to take everyone to pass this.

You are loved as well...

Militant is when one is excessively aggressive in their verbage. One thing about you Time is that you are very polite. You don't flame people and your generally very kind toward people. Which is awesome! But you are aggressive in that you are determined to get an answer about something "right now".

I hate to say it, but the best way to make changes on a board like this is to be political. That means having to be very careful in your wording and to have patience. You started out right I think but started getting impatient and made lots of different threads about the board trying to get people to agree with you. I don't have the answer to what will work, I just know how I feel.

Thank you for giving everyone an opportunity to express how they feel without making us feel guilty if we don't agree with you. Or less of a Christian. Your a stand up guy Time, and I respect you.

 

[Time2BCounted]

May i ask one thing from my brothers and sisters

First i am truly sorry some outside our forum do not respect the rules, though for the most part most do.

Originally i hid the thread outside the main forum so that those of us working on this could discuss it privately, cross denominationally.

All we have been trying to do is prepare it to present. No one exercizing wisdom imho would try to prepare this in an atmosphere of total confusion and imho hammering this out in wiki would stop the process. Our intent was to hide away, preparing it and getting over all the arguements seperating denoms in a private, friendly, respectful, serious and loving manner. In this way we can present a good document that should be easily passable, in the fastest means possible. Unfortunately a few who disagree saw our efforts and tried to derail them.

If you can give us a week, and it may not even take that, I believe we can have it completely ready and proposed in wiki

In the mean time... may i ask that if anyone knows ANYONE who is likeminded, elsewhere on this board, or on other message boards, or even friends and relatives who dont post anywhere... can we all contact whom we know to see if they will join us by signing on and voicing approval when the time comes to present this?

We saw the other side using the same tactics, so i dont consider this unfair or wrong... lets find those 7000 hidden in a cave who have not bowed the knee to Baal

Lets not be divided... i promise you i will try to keep the fights out of here after this, but given the fact we are beacons, i have a feeling anything we ever try to do in Christ will be challenged

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

I have no suggestions for you, really. I don't disagree with your point, I really don't. What I was saying is that while I understand what you are trying to do, I am not comfortable with the attention it is bringing to our little corner of the universe.

I am not good at theological arguments, and I have never been able to pull Scripture out of my memory, so for ME, and for ME ONLY, I try to be an example in my behavior, because that is how I feel the Lord can make the best use of me.

I fail many, many times, but at least this is a way that I feel God can work through me. That is what I have to offer. I, and by this, I mean only ME, can't handle hostile conflict. It is a fact of who I am. So I was only saying that I get it, I just can't do it. That's all.

This is how I am too 3G2D.

 

[Time2BCounted]

i love and respect you too sis

God bless you

Ok maybe i should explain one other thing lol

I appreciate your personal critique, and i am always open to council. I do prefer politeness and positive solutions. My problem was that we were suddenly invaded by folks who tried to derail a very peaceful thing going on.

I felt forced to do a few differant threads, not to try to make everyone agree with me, but so that we could wrangle a way to discuss things peacefully.

Yesterday was a red letter day... have you seen the proposed definition yet? Its still a draft but its very good imho, and catholics, lutherans, eastern orthodox, Anglicans, baptists, charismatics, noncharismatics, we have all been so peacefully working on this. they have been a huge help, everyone...

The definition as it currently stands is here...

http://foru.ms/t6230463-poll-for-proposed-new-definition-of-christianity.html

We got a lot done yesterday and i think its very close to finished... may i get opinions and suggestions?

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Well Time...you've been described as a "pussycat".

Check it out...

 

[free2be]

Well Time...you've been described as a "pussycat".

Check it out...

The yucky thread.

 

[Time2BCounted]

Well Time...you've been described as a "pussycat".

Check it out...

Hmm
Not often am i at a loss lol

How are men supposed to react to being called pussycats? lolol

 

[Nadiine]

I consider Time2B a very good friend I just met last week, so I'm going to be tiny bit partial but fair.

With that said, first of all, as anyone's noticed, I CAN BE VERY DENSE about rules and not pay attn. to details; these types of boards confuse me easily. (I'm not like this in other things, just these busy board sites)

Anyway, I was part of the debating going on which I finally got thru my thick I head I shouldn't do there with non CC's (or vice versa/ either way I helped it continue). My apology 4 that.

But, my main point is this, sometimes we get inconvenienced for things that are important or can do alot of good. I'm sure if you disagree with having a Christian definition made, the incovenience isn't worth it... but in fairness, he started his definition statement outside CC - but we got bombarded there & had to take refuge someplace the opposition couldn't drown us out in. So, it wasn't his first choice.

Lastly, this forum has alot of chaos in it with Christians and [some] nonChristians fighting for supremacy, and I'm happy to see any attempts in trying to seal up the holes that allow so much chaos & division in this forum.

The ones who suffer ARE THE NEW BELIEVERS AND VISITING UNSAVED that come here and get 5 opposing doctrines at every question they ask.
Here's a link to a post from a grieved sister yesterday that details this very problem going on in our NonDenominational section:
http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=39570557&postcount=109
I think that post says it all. Fellowship is wonderful, but what about who we're trying to reach?

So I credit Time for his efforts to try to find a way to seal up the holes at this forum. I'm willing to take the temporary incovenience & headache for some change. As I see it, Christians have given their lives to fight for causes to promote God's truth & Kingdom or stand for it; I"m ok with some jagged threads for a week or 2 to promote something that attempts to change 4U for God's glory.

**sorry so long**

 

[Nadiine]

Well Time...you've been described as a "pussycat".

Check it out...

I found this post on that page:

Exactly.
Why define Christian anyway? Why is it so important on this forum?
Ringo

OH GOD HELP ME.
Ya, who CARES what a Christian is on a Christian website?
oop, I should have taken this to the Venting Thread which is now officially unstickied by Greeny.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

That thread is one of the ugliest ones I've seen at CF.

And apprently we're the unloving ones...

 

[Nadiine]

That thread is one of the ugliest ones I've seen at CF.

And apprently we're the unloving ones...

I know it Greeny - I was looking for the actual post that LT was referring to, but I had to sift thru some posts on that page and I about had a heart attack!
I just cannot believe what I was reading... and they call US ebil!

That's why I can't go to their forum over there, I get so grieved and angry that I have to just leave. Addressing them would do no good - I've been so tempted sometimes.
But until God does something in their hearts, I think it's pointless. (& anything we say or do they think is an attack anyways).

 

[Time2BCounted]

Nadiine youre right, it would be pointless, i commend your wisdom in being careful where you cast your pearls.
You are a strong and wise and excellent sister


GM
Lil sister dont you be upset, my skin is as thick as a rhino, and it doesnt bother me personally at all. Actually i think things like this will reflect on us in a good way in the end.


Everythings going to be alright. Yes we are in a fight, but we need not fight as others do. All we need to do to win is stand in love together

Actually i know a lot of you havent kept up with whats going on with the definition, go to the op in the poll for it and check it out... its up to date in the op, and its pretty good even if i did work on it too lol. Check it out if you can and give us input

 

[Nadiine]

An addendum to my original post (#32):

I spoke presumptuously about being willing to be inconvenienced here in 1 way, I wasn't considering the literal WORK the Mods may have been having to deal with if reports and complaints were coming thru.

It's easy for me to say, but I wasn't having to do extra work like staffers might have been having to do. Just wanted to note that becuz I think it's important.

 

[jive4005]

Let us learn, mature, forgive, unite... and finally do something Special for God! Amen

His,
rev

 

[free2be]

Let us learn, mature, forgive, unite... and finally do something Special fro God! Amen

His,
rev

 

[Nadiine]

Let us learn, mature, forgive, unite... and finally do something Special fro God! Amen

His,
rev

I don't doubt that doing those very things IS doing something special for God - becuz of those things aren't near as easy to do as we might think.