Me either, at least the part about Armegeddon being a spiritual battle but...I believe that is what it is. So much, if not all, of Revelation is spiritual in nature. The more I study the more of the spiritual is revealed.
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Me either, at least the part about Armegeddon being a spiritual battle but...I believe that is what it is. So much, if not all, of Revelation is spiritual in nature. The more I study the more of the spiritual is revealed. 
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Tis a great Book indeed.
I can see in places where perhaps some visions are seen looking down from Heaven and other ones looking up to Heaven......
Reve 20:11 Then I saw a great white Throne and Him Who sat on it, from Whose Face the land andthe Heaven fled away. And there was found no Place to them.
Reve 6:16 And they are saying to the mountains and to the rocks "be falling on us! and hide us! from Face of the One-sitting upon the Throne and from the wrath of the Lambkin
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Need help with Books Opened in Reve 20
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The only thing spiritual about it, is recognising that when it happens it is what Revelation is talking about.
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Agreed. Anyone can literalize the Book of Revelation; especially the world and man's religion; but as I said earlier the Book of Revelation is spiritual; the most spiritual book in the WHOLE Bible. I find it funny how so many of God's people see it in the same way the world sees it. The last place they would look is with in.
I would agree as would a lot of Spirit led commentators on that Book
Kindgdom Bible Studies Revelation Series Part 1
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The mark of the beast. Armageddon. The Four Horsemen. The false prophet. Babylon the great. Falling stars, stinging locusts, and giant hailstones. The seven last plagues. The bottomless pit. The lake of fire. These images of terror and catastrophe from the book of Revelation have greatly influenced the thinking of millions of Christians through the ages.
Even the secular press uses images such as "Armageddon" and "four horsemen of the Apocalypse" to describe calamities in our world. Despite 1900 years of fascination with the book of Revelation, Johns letter to the seven Churches of Asia continues to be misunderstood. And badly misinterpreted!
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And what is this suppose to mean. The whole Book is spiritual.
John was in Spirit on the Lord's Day; there is nothing literal, earthy or carnal about the this deep spiritual book; the most SPIRITUAL book in God's Word; except if we see it with our carnal earthy understanding or religious vision.
Its among us! Its in our midst!
The kingdom of God is within you!
The Spirit of the Son is within you! God dwelleth in you!
The Holy Ghost is within you!
The word of Christ dwelleth richly in you!
The anointing abideth within you!
The voice of the Son of God is heard from within! not outwardly, carnally, or with out flesh mind.
John vision was not earthly Patmos where all he saw was earthy rocks, soil and sea; it was a spiritual vision; a vision from God's Spirit within.
John was in Spirit on the Lord's Day; there is nothing literal, earthy or carnal about the this deep spiritual book; the most SPIRITUAL book in God's Word; except if we see it with our carnal earthy understanding or religious vision.
Its among us! Its in our midst!
The kingdom of God is within you!
The Spirit of the Son is within you! God dwelleth in you!
The Holy Ghost is within you!
The word of Christ dwelleth richly in you!
The anointing abideth within you!
The voice of the Son of God is heard from within! not outwardly, carnally, or with out flesh mind.
John vision was not earthly Patmos where all he saw was earthy rocks, soil and sea; it was a spiritual vision; a vision from God's Spirit within.
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You cannot even begin to understand the Book of Revelation unless you first take it in context of the whole Bible. Revelation is the most spiritual Book in the whole Bible; Genesis would take a close second place.
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What do you mean that the book of Revelation is the most spiritual book in the whole bible?
I'd go as far as to say that it is the most symbolic, but that might be a stretch considering that much of the symbolism in the book is explained by the book of Daniel.
What do you mean that the book of Revelation is the most spiritual book in the whole bible?
I'd go as far as to say that it is the most symbolic, but that might be a stretch considering that much of the symbolism in the book is explained by the book of Daniel.
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What I mean is John was in SPIRIT on the Lords day; no where does it say John was being literal. Religious men like to literalize this deep and awesome book, but they can only back up this literal understanding with assumptions; no where does it say anything about this book being literal.
Yes it is symbolic.
Revelation is influnced by the whole Bible not just Daniel; to understand the spiritual symbolism of Revelation what better place to look then God's Word,
Yes it is symbolic.
Revelation is influnced by the whole Bible not just Daniel; to understand the spiritual symbolism of Revelation what better place to look then God's Word,
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Ezekiel 8:3 And He putteth forth a form of a hand and is taking me by a lock of my head, and a spirit she is lifting me between the Land and the Heavens, and she is bringing me Jerusalem-ward in appearance of Elohiym to portal of gate, the inner the one facing north-ward which there a seat of a figure/image of the jealously, the provoking jealously. [Revelation 17:3]
Reve 17:3 And he carries me away into a wilderness in spirit, and I saw a Woman sitting on a beast, scarlet, being replete of names of blasphemy having heads, seven, and horns, ten. [Ezekiel 8:3]
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John is real and reallly did have this vision, which is like dreaming with your eyes open during the day. Have you ever experienced a De Ja Vu.. When you have that DeJaVu moment it all comes back to you... So it will be when Revelation comes to pass, that which seems like a dream will have its reality before your eyes.
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John was indeed in the Spirit, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was literally shown things that he described in a symbolic way. The words of the book are blessed are they which hear and understand. We are to understand what was written.
And one should not be mistaken, yes Revelations piggy backs off of the bible as a whole, but by in large, its symbolism is correlated to those things which Daniel saw.
One shouldn't spiritualize away the book of Revelation. It was given to us to warn and encourage. It tells us of those things which are soon to take place. But if you chalk it all up to figurative speaking then you won't be ready.
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I myself view ALL of Daniel and the Olivet Discourse as fulfilled for the OC Jews/Israelites
Reve 1:3 Happy the one reading and the ones hearing the Words of the Prophecy and keepings in it having been Written for the Time NIGH/egguV <1451>. [Reve 22:6,10]
Luke 21:31 "Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing these these becoming, ye are knowing that NIGH/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God."
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I myself view ALL of Daniel and the Olivet Discourse as fulfilled for the OC Jews/Israelites
Reve 1:3 Happy the one reading and the ones hearing the Words of the Prophecy and keepings in it having been Written for the Time NIGH/egguV <1451>. [Reve 22:6,10]
Luke 21:31 "Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing these these becoming, ye are knowing that NIGH/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God."
If I had a dollar for every time you said that
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Would denaris be ok?If I had a dollar for every time you said that
John 11:48 "If-ever we may be be letting Him thus, all shall be believing in Him.
And shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away/arousin <142> (5692) of Us and the Place and the Nation" [Reve 6:6]
Revelation 6:6 And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying "choinex of grain/wheat a denari and three choinex of barleys a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring". [John 11:48]
1220. denarion day-nar'-ee-on of Latin origin; a denarius (or ten asses):--pence, penny(-worth).
AV - penny 9, pence 5, pennyworth 2; 16 denarius = "containing ten"
1) A Roman silver coin in NT time. It took its name from it being equal to ten "asses", a number after 217 B.C. increased to sixteen (about 3.898 grams or .1375 oz.). It was the principal silver coin of the Roman empire. From the parable of the labourers in the vineyard, it would seem that a denarius was then the ordinary pay for a day's wages. (Mt. 20:2-13)
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Revelation 1:3
Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
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I quoted that earlier.
The time has been and is always "nigh at hand"
http://www.christianforums.com/t7397815/#post53355668
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I quoted that earlier.
The time has been and is always "nigh at hand"
http://www.christianforums.com/t7397815/#post53355668
It is the reading and hearing and taking to heart the message that is most important... knowing the time is at hand.... More than ever has even the non-believers have this feeling that this world is going to be in a terrible mess soon.
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