Should Revelations be studied?

[LittleLambofJesus]

I don't know, how have either of these Churches applied misinterpretations of Revelations to faithful Christians and their Church?


I'm not sure how any of these Churches interpret Revelations. I have heard some evangelists applying some terms to the Catholic Church. I would say that "anyone" who has misinterpreted Revelation and damage another faithful Christian will have to answer to God, regardless of their Church.

I don't know. I haven't looked into how the CC interprets Revelation. I do not recall the Book coming up in our readings or the Priests giving their views.

I try and look at it,
Bye-bye

One of the most awsomely divine inspired symbolic books in the NT/NC and you haven't looked into how your denomination interprets it?

I view most if not all of it as fulfilled [or my Faith is in vain] and I believe the Catholics also view most of it fulfilled if I am not mistaken

I would guess it would be quite different than the SDA's view of it.

I kind of wish the thread below was on the GT board ehehe

http://www.christianforums.com/t6982465/
Is Sunday worship the mark of the beast?

 

[Stryder06]

I think this thread is funny. Of course Christians think Revelations is important, its in the Bible!

If it's important, than why does it seem like so many Christians are running away from the book instead of running to it to understand it?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

If it's important, than why does it seem like so many Christians are running away from the book instead of running to it to understand it?

How do ya figure that?

 

[visionary]

Blessed are they that read....

 

[Stryder06]

How do ya figure that?

How many Christians have you heard say we don't have to understand Revelations, or that it doesn't really matter, or that no one can truly understand it?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

How many Christians have you heard say we don't have to understand Revelations, or that it doesn't really matter, or that no one can truly understand it?

Perhaps one reason is so many of them are just sitting around waiting for the "Rapture" ?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Blessed are they that read....

And "understand"

Revelation 1:3 Happy the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the Prophecy and keepings the in it having been written, for the time nigh.

Matt 24:15 "Whenever then ye may be seeing the abomination of the desolation the being declared thru Daniel the Prophet having stood in a place, holy (the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) let be understanding!/noeitw <3539> (5720) [Mark 13:14]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7356783/#post52569817
The One Reading.....

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Should Revelations be studied?

Another question would be....how should it be studied? I myself have never counted the references made of the OT in Revelation but it seems this one Christian commentator came up with this number...I saw this link put up by a member on another thread some time back..Thoughts?

THE SYMBOLISM IN BOOK OF REVELATION

*snip*

........One man studied and found 348 allusions (not illusions, Light) in Revelation from the Old Testament. You see the similarity in wording and the context mirrored in Revelation and the particular Old Testament story, and immediately can recognize the reference source! That&#8217;s, IF you know the bible well enough to even notice that.

95 of the 348 plain references used in Revelation as taken from the Old Testament are repeated in Revelation.
That makes about 250 Old Testament passages are cited. How many chapters are in Revelation? 22. That makes about TEN OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES FOR EVERY CHAPTER!........

 

[visionary]

so.. it is definitely OT come to life in Rev... with that many references

 

[Spartan Warrior]

I think all the so called religious approach to this book are terribly lacking and have no clue in he meaning of this deep and awesome spiritual book. Of all the hidden mysteries in God's Word this book is the by a long shot the deepest.

 

[jad152]

There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches,

Hence, the reason why some of us will not read books and so-called doctrines concerning revelations.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Stryder06 There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches,

What would be some of those?

 

[Spartan Warrior]

That is the whole point, "those".

Revelation is not written to those plural who have an ear to hear; it was written to “He that hath an ear” singular. If you are hearing what those who have an ear you are hearing not with a spiritual ear but a religious ear.

Revelation IS the MOST spiritual book in the whole Bible and is not literal.

The elect are those who hear; the word “hear” is mentioned 46 times in the Book of Revelation. Hear singular; not plural; notice the word over comer is so often used with the word hear singular. The word see is mentioned 22 times and this has nothing to do with natural hearing and seeing,

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Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 2:11
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.


Revelation 2:29
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:3
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


Revelation 3:6
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:13
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Revelation 3:22
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:21-22 (in Context) Revelation 3 (Whole Chapter)



The elect of God are not all believers. The elect of God our the overcomers; only those see and hear what the spirit is saying to the out called. They are a far cry from the vast majority of believers who think because they are simply believing because they are the elect.

What would be some of those?

 

[Stryder06]

What would be some of those?

Misunderstanding of who the Anti-Christ is, the 7 seals and trumpets, the rapture, the beasts and what they represent.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Misunderstanding of who the Anti-Christ is, the 7 seals and trumpets, the rapture, the beasts and what they represent.

I would agree as would a lot of Spirit led commentators on that Book

Kindgdom Bible Studies Revelation Series Part 1

*snip*

The mark of the beast. Armageddon. The Four Horsemen. The false prophet. Babylon the great. Falling stars, stinging locusts, and giant hailstones. The seven last plagues. The bottomless pit. The lake of fire. These images of terror and catastrophe from the book of Revelation have greatly influenced the thinking of millions of Christians through the ages.

Even the secular press uses images such as "Armageddon" and "four horsemen of the Apocalypse" to describe calamities in our world. Despite 1900 years of fascination with the book of Revelation, John&#8217;s letter to the seven Churches of Asia continues to be misunderstood. And badly misinterpreted!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

*snip*

That is the whole point, "those".

Revelation is not written to those plural who have an ear to hear; it was written to &#8220;He that hath an ear&#8221; singular. If you are hearing what those who have an ear you are hearing not with a spiritual ear but a religious ear.

Revelation IS the MOST spiritual book in the whole Bible and is not literal.

The elect are those who hear; the word &#8220;hear&#8221; is mentioned 46 times in the Book of Revelation. Hear singular; not plural; notice the word over comer is so often used with the word hear singular. The word see is mentioned 22 times and this has nothing to do with natural hearing and seeing,

The elect of God are not all believers. The elect of God our the overcomers; only those see and hear what the spirit is saying to the out called. They are a far cry from the vast majority of believers who think because they are simply believing because they are the elect.

AMEN! ALLEHUIA! Great post

Matt 24:22 And if no was shortened the days, those, not ever was saved all flesh.
Because of yet the elect-chosen/eklektouV <1588>, shall be being shortened the days, those. [Mark 13:20]

Mark 13:20 And if no Lord shortens the days those not ever was saved all flesh.
But because of the elect-chosen whom He chooses He shortens the days [Matt 24:22]

 

[Tonks]

As Christians, and those anticipating the coming of our Lord, should it be of importance to the body of Christ to study and understand the last book of the bible?

There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches, this being the case, shouldn't the church have the best understanding (as good as possible that is) in regards to this book?

Even move, do you think that Revelations is important to salvation and our mission to preach the gospel?

There is way too much focus on the last book of the Bible, imho...to the point where some groups ignore much of the preceeding 26 books.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

There is way too much focus on the last book of the Bible, imho...to the point where some groups ignore much of the preceeding 26 books.

Perhaps.

But I would also add it shoud be studied in "CONJUNCTION" with the preceding 26 Books, not seperately

 

[1whirlwind]

Greetings.

Here again is something I do not understand.
Why does punishment/judgement fall on the wicked TWICE, once at "Armegeddon" and AGAIN at "Gog-Magog"

Reve 16:14 For they are spirits of demons doing signs which is going out upon the kings of whole the homed-one, to be together-leading/gathering/sun-agagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle of the Day, that the great of the God the Almighty. [Reve 20:8?]

Reve 20:8 And he shall be coming out to deceive the Nations, the in the four corners of the land, the Gog and the Magog, together-leading/sun-agagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle of which the Number as the Sand of the Sea. [Reve 16:14?]

My view is that "armegeddon" and "gog/magog" are one and the same event, otherwise, Ezekiel 38/39 would not make a lick of sense, and would seem to happen TWICE according to Amills and others view of Revelation, which is unscriptural to me. I have a study on this

Consider that [Revelation 16:14-16], which is the battle of Armageddon, isn't a literal battle but is spiritual. As verse 14 said, the "spirits of devils" go forth unto "the whole world to gather them to the battle." They, the two opposing forces, are being gathered now. We, children of God, fight those that listen to the "spirits of devils."

Armageddon isn't the day of the battle for that day is "that great day of God Almighty." It is the day the battle for souls ends. Armageddon is the place of the gathering and it is an ongoing spiritual gathering. We must stay dressed, with the gospel armor, "lest he walk naked, and they see his shame" for the day will "come as a thief." If Armageddon was a literal battle where huge forces were gathered then He wouldn't arrive as a surprise to anyone. The "great day of God Almighty," is the millennium.

The battle of Gog and Magog [Revelation 20:8] is at the end of the millennium. It happens when Satan is released for a short time.

The other Gog, found in Ezekiel, I believe is, a literal battle. It is one God Himself fights at the end of this age...pre millennium. It is Russia and their allies against America...fought in Alaska.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Consider that [Revelation 16:14-16], which is the battle of Armageddon, isn't a literal battle but is spiritual. As verse 14 said, the "spirits of devils" go forth unto "the whole world to gather them to the battle." They, the two opposing forces, are being gathered now. We, children of God, fight those that listen to the "spirits of devils."

The battle of Gog and Magog [Revelation 20:8] is at the end of the millennium. It happens when Satan is released for a short time.

The other Gog, found in Ezekiel, I believe is, a literal battle. It is one God Himself fights at the end of this age...pre millennium. It is Russia and their allies against America...fought in Alaska.

Never heard is quite described that way. :o