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Should Revelations be studied?

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2Corinthians 3: 14 But was calloused the minds of them.
For until the today, the same covering/kalumma <2571> upon the reading of the Old Covenant/Testament is remaining, no being up-covered/ana-kaluptomenon <343> (5746).
That In Christ it is being-taken-away


Revelation 1:1 An un-veiling/apo-kaluyiV <602> of Jesus Christ, which gives to him, the God, to show to the bond-servants of Him which-things is binding to be becoming in swiftness


Amen!

The Revelation of Jesus Christ is just that, a Revelation of Jesus Christ.

Within us!
 
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Yep... John saw Yeshua at work on our behalf in heaven. It is to give us hope. He as our High Priest is still a great advocate for justice and righteousness in our world. "thy kingdom come, thy Will be done" We should be looking for Christ in Revelation "on earth as it is in heaven" and the best we can pray for until this "war in heaven" is over is "give us this day our daily bread" or in other words " before they spring forth I tell you of them." and Revelation will testify what the dreams and visions are saying are true.
 
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This guy isn't Catholic but it's close enough IMHO to post.....
...Fr Hopko goes through and clearly shows Rev isn't a puzzle for people to hob cob together.
Ya think? I like the way this one Christian commentator put it :)

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/Revelation/rev1.htm


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...........One misconception shared by some is that the Revelation has nothing of importance to say to us. It&#8217;s considered to be merely a bizarre piece of first-century writing with no relevance for today.
Another wrong idea is that the Revelation is a code book describing a specific outline of history written in advance. Countless interpreters have tried to "decode" the book from a historical perspective to find all the major world events of the past 1900 years.
Others interpret it more literally as a handbook for predicting the cataclysmic events that will bring the final wrath of God and the end of the world. The claims of Christian groups from the early church to the present &#8212; that the Revelation pinpoints the events, personalities, and time periods of "the end" &#8212; have all failed.

This should be a caution to believers for using the book of Revelation as a predictive handbook. Other people&#8217;s interpretation of the book of Revelation is based on the "Pan Theory" &#8212; it&#8217;s all going to pan out in the end! Beloved brethren, the fact is, it&#8217;s not panning out the way the end-time prognosticators are projecting.......
 
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It does need to be studied and I can attest to the fact that as a new Christian, you shouldn't *only* study Revelation as an isolated book. Every little thing in Revelation connects to either another chapter of Revelation or a vision or scripture from the rest of the Old Testament or New Testament. So instead of taking other's words for what it means, which usually exclude many many many references, check every single concept of Revelation to another part of the bible... like the beast, the harlot, the mountain cast into the sea, etc...

...it really is amazing and beautiful and genius, but it can also cause a lot of grief and arguments (as you can see in the Eschatology forum above. lol!)
 
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It does need to be studied and I can attest to the fact that as a new Christian, you shouldn't *only* study Revelation as an isolated book. Every little thing in Revelation connects to either another chapter of Revelation or a vision or scripture from the rest of the Old Testament or New Testament. So instead of taking other's words for what it means, which usually exclude many many many references, check every single concept of Revelation to another part of the bible... like the beast, the harlot, the mountain cast into the sea, etc...

...it really is amazing and beautiful and genius, but it can also cause a lot of grief and arguments (as you can see in the Eschatology forum above. lol!)
:D
Yepperz! :thumbsup:
 
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I do not think that new doctrines should be pulled out of Revelation, that is should be interpreted in light of the NT and the rest of scripture.

As well as its historical and literary context. The Revelation shouldn't be treated as though it were "super-Scripture", somehow above or outside the normal and healthy hermeneutical and exegetical applications that we use for the rest of Scripture.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I do not think that new doctrines should be pulled out of Revelation, that is should be interpreted in light of the NT and the rest of scripture.
I agree :thumbsup:
 
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As well as its historical and literary context. The Revelation shouldn't be treated as though it were "super-Scripture", somehow above or outside the normal and healthy hermeneutical and exegetical applications that we use for the rest of Scripture.

-CryptoLutheran
Never heard it put that way before but that sounds very logical to me.
Where is "Super Fuzz" when we neen 'im :p

Super Fuzz (1980) trailer - YouTube
 
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Anyone else like to respond to this thread?
As Christians, and those anticipating the coming of our Lord, should it be of importance to the body of Christ to study and understand the last book of the bible?

There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches, this being the case, shouldn't the church have the best understanding (as good as possible that is) in regards to this book?

Even move, do you think that Revelations is important to salvation and our mission to preach the gospel?
 
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I do not think that new doctrines should be pulled out of Revelation, that is should be interpreted in light of the NT and the rest of scripture.


And indeed it cannot be understood but by comparing it with the rest of scripture and the holy spirit.
 
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Originally Posted by Ortho_Cat I do not think that new doctrines should be pulled out of Revelation, that is should be interpreted in light of the NT and the rest of scripture.
And indeed it cannot be understood but by comparing it with the rest of scripture and the holy spirit.
What he said :thumbsup:

.....
 
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