Should Messianic Jews support Jerusalem Third Temple?

[miknik5]

For one thing... the context is obviously for the latter days.....


Haggai 2:6

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"For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;
And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts."

A man from Uganda has written what appears to me to be an exceptionally insightful article on when a modern Christian political Cyrus is raised up...... an outpouring of the Holy Spirit will begin...... but it begins for a very specific set of reasons.

His article can be seen in post #1 here:


Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

Nope not until
HE removes sin and false prophets on a single day and then opens up a fountain to the inhabitants of David for cleanliness

 

[miknik5]

Though there is presently WATER

It's just not all want to come to THE WATERS as Isaiah had prophecied

 

[DennisTate]

What do you think is happening here? The Gospel is being preached and there are many ears listening in on forums just like this

Yes.... my impression of Mr. Eporu Ronald Alfred's article is that we Christians need to learn from the life of ancient King Cyrus of the Medo - Persian Empire who gave freedom of religion to all 127 provinces of the empire, not just to the Jews.

It seems to me that we need to believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is working out parts of H-s greater plan through others........ and that the fulfillment of Ezekiel 40 - 48 is important..... but we are not the ones who must carry that particular burden....... .but we can give encouragement and some types of support to the Levites and Orthodox Jews who do carry that particular burden of the L-rd.

 

[miknik5]

Do you understand who Zerubabbel was simply a shadow pointing us to?

Do you know anyone who is as a ROCK
cut out from
THE MOUNTAIN not by human hands?

Or can make clean what GOD has declared unclean?

 

[DennisTate]

Nope not until
HE removes sin and false prophets on a single day and then opens up a fountain to the inhabitants of David for cleanliness

But you aren't saying that the prophecies of Ezekiel 40 - 48 are a false prophecy are you?

 

[miknik5]

Yes.... my impression of Mr. Eporu Ronald Alfred's article is that we Christians need to learn from the life of ancient King Cyrus of the Medo - Persian Empire who gave freedom of religion to all 127 provinces of the empire, not just to the Jews.

It seems to me that we need to believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is working out parts of H-s greater plan through others........ and that the fulfillment of Ezekiel 40 - 48 is important..... but we are not the ones who must carry that particular burden....... .but we can give encouragement and some types of support to the Levites and Orthodox Jews who do carry that particular burden of the L-rd.

LOL!
Then I suggest you read Isaiah 8

Or follow the example of Daniel as per Daniel 1

How will you know the difference between eating food from the right table from eating polluted defiled food from the wrong table?

 

[DennisTate]

Do you understand who Zerubabbel was simply a shadow pointing us to?

Do you know anyone who is as a ROCK
cut out from
THE MOUNTAIN not by human hands?

Or can make clean what GOD has declared unclean?

True... but we Christians have biases.... and we lack understanding on many subjects...... frankly Messiah Yeshua - Jesus doesn't have to explain everything that He is doing to each of us.

We Christians, Messianic Jews and Messianic Gentile tend to be so wrapped up our own role... that we underestimate the importance of the role being played out by the Jewish people and the nation of Israel.

 

[miknik5]

the only way is to eat the PURE UNADULTERATED BREAD which GOD has provided now so that in the last days you won't go to the dead(spirits) over the LIVING ONE

 

[miknik5]

True... but we Christians have biases.... and we lack understanding on many subjects...... frankly Messiah Yeshua - Jesus doesn't have to explain everything that He is doing to each of us.

We Christians, Messianic Jews and Messianic Gentile tend to be so wrapped up our own role... that we underestimate the importance of the role being played out by the Jewish people and the nation of Israel.

ONE FOUNDATION correct?

We weren't told to do anything but point all to THE FOUNDATION

And that is CHRIST JESUS

Only ONE TRUE HOUSE is being built and only ONE over the WHOLE HOUSE/FLOCK for GOD

 

[DennisTate]

LOL!
Then I suggest you read Isaiah 8

Or follow the example of Daniel as per Daniel 1

How will you know the difference between eating food from the right table from eating polluted defiled food from the wrong table?

Three centuries from now, Messianic Jews, Messianic Gentiles and Christians will be expounding on hidden meaning contained in each of the rituals performed on the restored Jerusalem Third Temple by Levites and Orthodox Jewish Nazarites who go into the Court of the Nazarites.

and....... the weekly and annual Sabbaths will be regarded very differently by Christians at that time......

Isaiah 66:23

And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

 

[miknik5]

Another truth that will be overlooked by those to whom
The WORD of GOD has come is that GOD already declared not only the earthly high priests unclean but every nation before HIM
Yet, unlike Ezra who understood that only those who were of a priestly bloodline could have a hand in building the temple

 

[miknik5]

Three centuries from now, Messianic Jews, Messianic Gentiles and Christians will be expounding on hidden meaning contained in each of the rituals performed on the restored Jerusalem Third Temple by Levites and Orthodox Jewish Nazarites who go into the Court of the Nazarites.

and....... the weekly and annual Sabbaths will be regarded very differently by Christians at that time......

Isaiah 66:23

And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

"Worship ME"

Still remains HIM
All will hold to ONE NAME inwardly
No matter how many outward labels one still wants to cling to

 

[DennisTate]

ONE FOUNDATION correct?

We weren't told to do anything but point all to THE FOUNDATION

And that is CHRIST JESUS

Only ONE TRUE HOUSE is being built and only ONE over the WHOLE HOUSE/FLOCK for GOD

Question for you......
do you believe the account of little Colton Burpo who had a near death experience when he was three years old and met with King David, Samson and John the Baptist?

Do you think that you will be able to meet with King David, Samson and John the Baptist after you die?

 

[miknik5]

Please expound the construction of the new Jerusalem in revelation 22

 

[ToBeLoved]

Dennis. Can you reply to the post you are addressing with your reply. I can't follow on my mobile with no references. Not that I'm important but thought I'd ask.

 

[miknik5]

Question for you......
do you believe the account of little Colton Burpo who had a near death experience when he was three years old and met with King David, Samson and John the Baptist?

Do you think that you will be able to meet with King David, Samson and John the Baptist after you die?

I don't know the case of Colton Burpo

But I do know that these (David, Samson etc and all) have ONE over them
And know the ONE over them

I'm glad to hear Samson will be there but why should we be surprised since HE went to preach to those who were held captive in captivity

I can't imagine anyone rejected THE GOSPEL there

 

[DennisTate]

"Worship ME"

Still remains HIM
All will hold to ONE NAME inwardly
No matter how many outward labels one still wants to cling to

True.... and the women who prepared the spices to anoint the body of Rabbi Yeshua -Jesus after his death, what day did they rest on?

If... the First Day of Unleavened Bread / Passover was on a Thursday that year.... then they rested on the annual Sabbath, Thursday... then they prepared the spices on Friday the Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath..... then they rested on the Sabbath, (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset).... then they went to the tomb early Sunday morning, the first day of the week but Messiah Yeshua - Jesus had already been raised from the dead. When?

Seventy two hours, three days and three nights, from his Wednesday afternoon crucifixion and later afternoon or early evening burial in the tomb.

 

[DennisTate]

I don't know the case of Colton Burpo

But I do know that these (David, Samson etc and all( have ONE over them
And know the ONE over them

I'm glad to hear Samson will be there but why should we be surprised since HE went to preach to those who were held captive in captivity

I can't imagine anyone rejected THE GOSPEL there

Take a look for the book and movie "Heaven is for Real. " I highly recommend it.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Dennis. Can you reply to the post you are addressing with your reply. I can't follow on my mobile with no references. Not that I'm important but thought I'd ask.

Never mind. It was my own settings. All is well.

 

[miknik5]

True.... and the women who prepared the spices to anoint the body of Rabbi Yeshua -Jesus after his death, what day did they rest on?

If... the First Day of Unleavened Bread / Passover was on a Thursday that year.... then they rested on the annual Sabbath, Thursday... then they prepared the spices on Friday the Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath..... then they rested on the Sabbath, (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset).... then they went to the tomb early Sunday morning, the first day of the week but Messiah Yeshua - Jesus had already been raised from the dead. When?

Seventy two hours, three days and three nights, from his Wednesday afternoon crucifixion and later afternoon or early evening burial in the tomb.

I believe the WORD of GOD just as it is

The first day of the week is and will always remain Sunday

Further to fulfill all the words prophecied in shadows and signs and lower representations it is VERY FITTING that the LOTD of THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH should arise on the "eighth day signifying a new covenanted/circumcised creation who have passed through the LORD's REST and are truly....circumcised

If you can't figure it out, it isn't something wrong with GOD's WORD