Should Messianic Jews support Jerusalem Third Temple?

[DennisTate]

By not emptying THE CROSS of its power

Exactly.... and a Mary Magdalene type of person.....
can give a different type of powerful testimony than would tend to be given by
the young man who had already been
observing the commandments scrupulously....
but Rabbi Yeshua- Jesus showed that man that he had a problem with
idolatry in the form of greed.......

 

[DennisTate]

By not emptying THE CROSS of its power

Why do you think Messiah Yeshua - Jesus worked with such astonishing power through Pastor William Seymour?

What message was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus telling America through the Azuza St. ministry?

 

[miknik5]

Exactly.... and a Mary Magdalene type of person.....
can give a different type of powerful testimony than would tend to be given by
the young man who had already been
observing the commandments scrupulously....
but Rabbi Yeshua- Jesus showed that man that he had a problem with
idolatry in the form of greed.......

You know the words of men but you don't know TheWORD of GOD

Paul was very specific that he did not resort to human wisdom or argument

shouldnt 1 Corinthians 2 have been sufficient to your understanding?

I guess it wasn't that you had to resort to the words of men

 

[visionary]

Exodus 12

That is not taking back the work

 

[DennisTate]

You know the words of men but you don't know TheWORD of GOD

Paul was very specific that he did not resort to human wisdom or argument

shouldnt 1 Corinthians 2 have been sufficient to your understanding?

So are you saying that his own personal story.....
of how he once persecuted Messianic Jews.....
was human reasoning and argument?

Act 26:11

"And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelledthem to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

 

[miknik5]

Why do you think Messiah Yeshua - Jesus worked with such astonishing power through Pastor William Seymour?

What message was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus telling America through the Azuza St. ministry?

Do I really have to now examine pastor Seymour to judge if he truly was in the faith?

Let pastor Seymour examine himself

 

[miknik5]

So are you saying that his own personal story.....
of how he once persecuted Messianic Jews.....
was human reasoning and argument?

Act 26:11

"And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelledthem to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

These weren't babies

 

[DennisTate]

Oh he didn't use that until he was driven to validate himself because false prophets were slipping in disrupting and deceiving the sheep by their open praise and validation of themselves

OK.... so could you make a guess as to why
people who knew the ten commandments would plot
to kill Lazarus?

Is it possible that Lazarus was going around with a testimony that was so
powerful that people were flocking to hear him.......
and their lives were forever changed by the testimony of Lazarus?

Is that possible?

Could Lazarus have given a testimony similar to "Heaven is for Real?" by Colton and Pastor Todd Burpo?

 

[DennisTate]

John 12:10

"But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death;"

Having been dead for four days it would not surprise me one bit if Lazarus was giving a personal testimony on some levels like that of former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. who became a pastor after his near death experience.

 

[miknik5]

OK.... so could you make a guess as to why
people who knew the ten commandments would plot
to kill Lazarus?

Is it possible that Lazarus was going around with a testimony that was so
powerful that people were flocking to hear him.......
and their lives were forever changed by the testimony of Lazarus?

Is that possible?

Could Lazarus have given a testimony similar to "Heaven is for Real?" by Colton and Pastor Todd Burpo?

Lazarus was sick
He died
Jesus raised him up
The people began all the more to follow CHRIST

And the supposed teachers of the law said if we don't do something the whole world will run after HIM and we will no longer get preferential treatment

 

[miknik5]

John 12:10

"But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death;"

Having been dead for four days it would not surprise me one bit if Lazarus was giving a personal testimony on some levels like that of former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. who became a pastor after his near death experience.

Please continue reading the rest of the WORD of GOD

And
Are you offended if Lazarus was indeed giving a testimony?

The teachers of the LAW had already planned to kill Jesus
They threw Lazarus in

No concern that Lazarus did nothing
Kill him anyway?

Bad judgement on their part
No different than wanting to kill the man with the withered hand because JESUS had
H. E. A. L. E. D. him

 

[DennisTate]

Lazarus was sick
He died
Jesus raised him up
The people began all the more to follow CHRIST

And the supposed teachers of the law said if we don't do something the whole world will run after HIM and we will no longer get preferential treatment

But..... do you honestly think that
Lazarus was NOT giving people a personal testimony
that might have been somewhat like the fifteen year old Israeli
teenager who had a near death experience back in 2015?

Take a look at the crowd of people and the enthusiasm with which they are asking this young man questions:

Israeli teenager has near death experience and predicts....

 

[miknik5]

OK.... so could you make a guess as to why
people who knew the ten commandments would plot
to kill Lazarus?

Is it possible that Lazarus was going around with a testimony that was so
powerful that people were flocking to hear him.......
and their lives were forever changed by the testimony of Lazarus?

Is that possible?

Could Lazarus have given a testimony similar to "Heaven is for Real?" by Colton and Pastor Todd Burpo?

Lazarus testimony would have been to his own brethren and his testimony would have been clear

They were there some had witnessed it with their own eyes

Lazarus' testimony would have been

JESUS is THE RESURRECTION and THE LIFE

HE who believes in HIM though he die shall live and he who believes in HIM and lives shall never die

 

[DennisTate]

Please continue reading the rest of the WORD of GOD

And
Are you offended if Lazarus was indeed giving a testimony?

The teachers of the LAW had already planned to kill Jesus
They threw Lazarus in

No concern that Lazarus did nothing
Kill him anyway?

Bad judgement on their part
No different than wanting to kill the man with the withered hand because JESUS had
H. E. A. L. E. D. him

No..... I am not offended by the idea of Lazarus giving a testimony and I am NOT OFFENDED if that testimony was somewhat similar to that of Colton Burpo, former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. or the young man in Israel.

 

[miknik5]

But..... do you honestly think that
Lazarus was NOT giving people a personal testimony
that might have been somewhat like the fifteen year old Israeli
teenager who had a near death experience back in 2015?

Take a look at the crowd of people and the enthusiasm with which they are asking this young man questions:

Israeli teenager has near death experience and predicts....

What do you need?

If one were to die and come back from the grave they still would not believe was not said so that men should look to follow and believe in men

It was always that they should point to THE ONE who is life of whom THE SCRIPTURES speak of

 

[DennisTate]

Lazarus testimony would have been to his own brethren and his testimony would have been clear

They were there some had witnessed it with their own eyes

Lazarus' testimony would have been

JESUS is THE RESURRECTION and THE LIFE

HE who believes in HIM though he die shall live and he who believes in HIM and lives shall never die

So you don't like the idea that maybe Lazarus reviewed his life
and the events of his life much as is indicated must happen in a number of scriptures?

The young man in Israel spends a great deal of time explaining how he reviewed the events of his life...... and how important even small things can really be.

Doesn't this help to explain why Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would state that the very hairs of our heads are numbered?

 

[dfw69]

The gospel has gone around the world, the opportunity to hear it is available, just because it is neglected doesn't man that it hasn't reached its fullness.

I'm saying no one can know when god decides when the fullness of Gentiles has come to an end

 

[DennisTate]

What do you need?

If one were to die and come back from the grave they still would not believe was not said so that men should look to follow and believe in men

It was always that they should point to THE ONE who is life of whom THE SCRIPTURES speak of

That sure seems to me to be exactly what is being done by
Colton Burpo... .but you seem to be afraid of his testimony.....

.... I believe that the rest of your life will be more productive if you come to the place
where testimonies like that don't offend you or scare you so much.......

What spirit produces fear?

 

[miknik5]

No..... I am not offended by the idea of Lazarus giving a testimony and I am NOT OFFENDED if that testimony was somewhat similar to that of Colton Burpo, former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. or the young man in Israel.

I have nothing more to say

Let each man seek to know HIM for themselves

Let them do what he townspeople in John 4 did when they heard the testimony if the woman st the well

Ask HIM to come in and "eat/fellowship" with them so that they might learn of HIM from HIM

Them they will turn to the one who gave their personal testimony and say

We no longer believe ny your word but we have heard Him for ourselves and we believe that this is THE CHRIST, the savior of the world

 

[DennisTate]

I'm saying no one can know when god decides when the fullness of Gentiles has come to an end

I personally have a suspicion.....
and I admit that it may be incorrect....
but I feel that the literal rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple.....
precedes the full fledged fulfillment of Zechariah 14
This is partly based on Isaiah 66:5
and Isaiah 66:6