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This was the postIn Acts 21, we see a Christian making a new vow, AFTER he had become a Christian, and Paul is going with him to help him with the sacrifice.
We're talking about those who are ONE in CHRISTAre we talking about figurative spiritual Jews, or are we talking about real Jews?
Correct. The poster was wrong about making a vow, especially about making a "new vow". They made a vow some unknown time prior to shaving.Yes. But unless I am misrepresenting the poster these came into the temple after their hair was shaved meaning they were coming to be purified
They had finished their vow
I thought the poster was implying that they were making a vow
I am amazed by this but I believe Paul shouldn't have taken this liberty and GOD stopped itCorrect. The poster was wrong about making a vow, especially about making a "new vow". They made a vow some unknown time prior to shaving.
Paul was not making the offering anyway since he did not take the vow. He was only helping the others pay for the animals to be offered.According to Acts 21, Paul thankfully didn't get to make that offering
Instead he was arrested
Acts 21:27
When the seven days (of this vow) were nearly completed
Paul used the vow to validate himself before his Jewish brethren that he was following the law of Moses when he really wasn't and shouldn't have been since CHRIST fulfilled all these lower shadows which were ever and always pointing us to the HIGHER HIDDEN SPIRITUAL REALITIES found in CHRISTCorrect. The poster was wrong about making a vow, especially about making a "new vow". They made a vow some unknown time prior to shaving.
Had he not done as James requested, the false accusations against him would have been thought true.I am amazed by this but I believe Paul shouldn't have taken this liberty and GOD stopped it
It shouldn't have beenPaul was not making the offering anyway since he did not take the vow. He was only helping the others pay for the animals to be offered.
He was forgiven. It doesn't matter what happened. It was as GOD planned so that nothing will be hidden from those to whomHad he not done as James requested, the false accusations against him would have been thought true.
Where does it say God stopped it? How do you know Satan didn't stop it so that Paul couldn't disprove the false accusations?And HE stopped it because it is wrong
You believe that sacrifices should continue?Where does it say God stopped it? How do you know Satan didn't stop it so that Paul couldn't disprove the false accusations?
We are not told the sacrifices were never made. That is an assumption. Those men were obligated to fulfill their vow. It did not matter that Yeshua fulfilled all sacrificial shadows. The vow was most likely entered into under the Sinai Covenant and needed to be completed as per YHWH's commands.Paul used the vow to validate himself before his Jewish brethren that he was following the law of Moses when he really wasn't and shouldn't have been since CHRIST fulfilled all these lower shadows which were ever and always pointing us to the HIGHER HIDDEN SPIRITUAL REALITIES found in CHRIST
It wasn't for him to allow this for the Jews at all
And before the seven days which were vowed, he was arrested
The sacrifices for these four men completing their vows was never made
No. This was a special circumstance, not a regular thing.You believe that sacrifices should continue?
I agree, except in a case like this.because no sacrifices should be upon the altar when HIS BLOOD is sufficient
You're rightWe are not told the sacrifices were never made. That is an assumption. Those men were obligated to fulfill their vow. It did not matter that Yeshua fulfilled all sacrificial shadows. The vow was most likely entered into under the Sinai Covenant and needed to be completed as per YHWH's commands.
My MAIN point is simply THEY SACRIFICED.My original view was that the four believers may have sacrificed in order to fulfill a vow they entered into BEFORE receiving Yeshua as Savior in which case the sacrifice was obligatory. You countered by telling me Acts 21 refers to A/one Christian making a NEW vow AFTER becoming a Christian. It says no such thing about a new vow after becoming a Christian. Nor does it refer to only one Christian. Nor were the believers called "Christians" in that passage. They are simply called "men", no doubt from the thousands of "Jews" that "believe" and keep Torah.
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