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Should Christians support Jews in rebuilding of Third Temple?

Should Christians support Jewish control of Temple Mount and rebuilding of Temple?

  • Yes, I believe that every word in Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48 must be fulfilled.

  • No, doing this might speed up the time of the coming of the anti-Messiah!

  • Yes, King Cyrus was led by the God of Abraham and he supported this cause.

  • No, I believe that we should all be vegetarians and never kill animals.

  • Yes, our nation will be blessed if we bless the Jewish people.

  • No, this could lead to a war and human life is of more value than any temple!


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I read a lot of Apocryphal writings. Most of them only once but here is one that I have gone back to again due to how impressive it is. The description of the Three Jerusalem Temples in this writings sure does fit with how I understand prophecy of the era of Moshiach/Messiah!

The Books of Adam and Eve

 
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Personally, I can't think of many better theories on how to protect Christians living under Islamic governments than to actively support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple so that if the prophecy from the pastor in Uganda is correct then the Holy Spirit will be poured out and our brethren who are being persecuted will receive lots and lots of extra of the Holy Spirit so that the enemies of Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua begin to recognize Him as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?!?!

You can see his message in the first post on page 3 of this discussion thread.

Muslim Persecution of Christians: May 2012 :: Gatestone Institute

 
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Yes, and as the story goes, the Ark is now a relic of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and kept at a monastery at Axum.

Dr. Grant Jeffrey sure did an amazing job of writing about this theory on where the Ark is in his 1988 version of his book "Armageddon Appointment with Destiny."
 
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interesting theory OneThatGotAway!!!

I have to admit that your idea that the Messiah fulfills these verses after he comes to set up his kingdom is logical....but many verses in the Bible seem to show that the Jerusalem Third Temple is already in operation PREVIOUS to the coming of the Messiah?!?!


Isaiah 66:5 ¶
This was partly fulfilled when money changers were cast out of the Second Temple but the context of Isaiah 66 sure seems to imply the latter days?!?!

Isaiah 66:10 ¶ Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:......
Isa 66:12 ¶
For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon [her] sides, and be dandled upon [her] knees.
 
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Sometimes an analogy can be quite helpful?!

In a sense Islam is built on top of both Judaism AND Christianity?!

Therefore there is a certain appropriateness in the idea expressed by at least one major scholar on this subject that the positioning of the actual Holy of Holies is a significant distance from the Dome of the Rock allowing therefore for lots of room for both the Dome of the Rock as well as the Jewish Temple to be on the Temple Mount together?!?!

Then again analogies can be taken too far and I sure am no expert on this subject?!?!


Yisrayl Hawkins : The Peaceful Solution - Build The Third Temple
The Third Temple belongs right beside the Dome of the Rock Mosque.


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Here is a very good article on this subject:

Edition 5
 
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I personally feel that Mr. Tzvi Fisherman's statement is correct that we Christians went far more so into pagan traditions and beliefs than we can hardly imagine until we research the topic further!

 
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It wouldn't work. Not only does nobody today know where the Holy of Holies once stood (it's thought to be the rock under the Dome of the Rock, but no one knows for sure), but Muslims would never allow a Jewish Temple on what they see as an exclusively Islamic holy site. I just can't see it happening any time soon, at least not without a great deal of violence.
 
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Supreme, your comments are certainly logical but we are living in the time period when ALL FLESH is about to be humbled!

Isaiah 2:17
And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.

I caught the last fifteen minutes of a truly amazing Sid Roth show yesterday evening.

Shane Warren talks about having a visionary dream in which he was shown a serious devaluation of the US dollar through a plan by several powerful foreign leaders. Then he saw a massive earthquake in the USA that apparently was linked to an American backed Middle East peace plan that divided Israel and/or Jerusalem. After this he was shown a revival within Christianity that was perhaps the most powerful in two millennia. Churches became the only place where people could go to receive real help for their problems and trials.

http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=11623


During a time period when the God of Abraham is showing all nations that He is to be feared.....the Islamic scholars who actually believe the positive teachings of the Qu'ran toward the Jewish and Christian peoples will be given a much greater level of respect in Islamic nations.

Soon, according to Zechariah 14, Egyptians representatives will be free to attend the Festival of Tabernacles in Jerusalem without being murdered as soon as they return to Egypt!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7672392/
Prophecy for America, money devalued, earthquake then revival for church?!
 
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I read "Winston Churchill and the Jews" by Gilbert a few years ago. It was rather amazing how little support for the creation of the Jewish state existed in Britain before and during WWII?!?!
 
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I just read another modern prophecy that may explain how perhaps the writing by the man from Uganda is extremely important for us Chistians to consider at this time!


The Great Tsunami by Rick Joyner | MorningStar Prophetic Bulletins 2011


The nation of Uganda has came to God in a huge way. So has Korea. The City of Cali, Colombia has went through an astonishing transformation....but even more than this is predicted to happen soon!!!!!



On the other hand there is a lot of logic in this writing by a man from Uganda that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit/Ruach ha Kodesh depends on Christians coming to a new level of unity with our Jewish brethren:

 
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Originally Posted by CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

I believe Christians are suppose to support everyone.So I would have to say yes.​

Does that include all Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and even heathen Atheists?
 
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Does that include all Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and even heathen Atheists?

The commandment by Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua for Christians to love each other as he loves us......has enormous implications.

Does Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua still love us even when we fall into some false doctrines or ideas?

Yes, He does.....he still loves it when we pray and ask for guidance even if eighty percent of what we did and thought that day were not in line with His full will for our lives!



John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.


If Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua was with again right now.....would he regard Christians from another denomination with the disdain or contempt that we sometimes do?


Would Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua have emotions as little, as small, as seldom as we do for the lost of this world?


Would Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua think and pray about his own goals, his own "kingdom" as much as 90% if not 99% of our pastors and priests do????


Cat-Woman is onto something big when she states that Christians are supposed to support everybody.....especially to the degree that they are onto something of value that lines up with truth!!!!

Are the Orthodox Jews correct to pray and desire to be able to build and use their Jerusalem Third Temple?

The words of the prophets sure seem to indicate that they are!!!!!

Over the past 1970 years that has been progressive revelations of deeper and deeper aspects of truth to groups......often the Christians out of whom this new denomination emerged was unable to handle the new truth or regarded it with suspicion.....isn't that exactly what happened as the First Century Messianic Jewish and Messianic Gentile community emerged out of Judaism??????
 
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I think we in America should strongly support Israel.

But I don't think as Christians we have any business promoting a third temple. The Temple sacrifices are a bold statement that the Messiah has not come according to Hebrews 10:4-11.

I believe that God has overruled in Israel to make that point clear for the last 2000 years.

in Christ,

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Wow!

I thank you for expressing your opinion on this important topic Bob!

The Orthodox Jews have a tradition that when they rebuild their Jerusalem Temple, it will last for one thousand years or more! They also have a tradition that Gentiles will push them to rebuild their Temple?!

I have the impression that we Gentiles will actively desire for Jews to rebuild their Temple when the climate is so astonishingly unstable that we are desperate to do anything that will bring the G-d of Abraham closer to us and closer to our earth!


Hosea 5:15
I will go [and] return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

Shane Warren - America - Sid Roth - It's Supernatural


Guest: Shane Warren
July 9-15, 2012

 
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The Church IS the new temple. We should never support the idea that sacrifices need to begin once more as Jesus was the last sacrifice.


I do agree with you that the people of God are the metaphorical temple, but there are astonishingly important things about the relationship that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua expects from His Temple that we will learn as we observe the specific rituals that the Levites will perform in the literal temple!


Hebrews 8:5
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

1Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
 
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The church (ie; the body of Christ) is not a "metaphorical" temple, but is literally the temple.

That seems like a good point?! By this you mean that the church is the real and true temple and the Ezekiel Temple in Jerusalem when it is finally built is actually something of a pale imitation of the church?!?!

If that is what you mean....I would have to agree!
 
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