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Should Christians play Dungeons and Dragons?

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there are Christians who consider paisley satanic.

I'd avoid it. A lot of folks will argue that it's ok, it's innocent, etc. But if it's rife with demonic and occult imagery, is proving to be kind of addictive, and is causing him to skip church, avoid it.

Odd thing is, both of these are true. The game is so diverse you can't give one answer to the question. It can range anywhere from a simple board game to something pretty nasty. In the end it's more about the people who play it than the game itself.

If it's causing someone's behavior to change - he used to attend church regularly and now he doesn't - I'd be concerned. But I wouldn't recommend some kind of edict banning him from playing. Rather, you need to help him see the effect it's having.

No. Its only a game. Anyone who thinks it is dangerous are just superstitious and prefer to be paranoid over nothing. It has 0 power. Its just as dangerous as playing monopoly.

Darn. So all those studies about how games are a good way to teach were wrong. Well, I guess it's back to having students 'toe the line'.
 
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Darn. So all those studies about how games are a good way to teach were wrong. Well, I guess it's back to having students 'toe the line

I think the concept of “spiritual influences” is different to what you just implied. There is nothing different then learning names of occult stuff than reading the bible, talmud, or random christian books about the assumed names of demons and magic.
 
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If he's spending an unreasonable amount of time playing D&D I would suggest he limit himself to however many sessions within a week are manageable. One? Maybe two?

The real problem with any game is it's addictive qualities. I am addicted to a few games but I've recently set a goal to not play them for a hundred days. Currently on day 35 for one of them and I find myself being more productive than I have recently.

If we find ourselves wanting to play a game at any cost we are making ourselves a slave of that activity.
 
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I think the concept of “spiritual influences” is different to what you just implied. There is nothing different then learning names of occult stuff than reading the bible, talmud, or random christian books about the assumed names of demons and magic.

Of course the effect will vary widely depending on the person and the environment. But that doesn't mean there is no effect. For some it will be a trivial effect. For others it could be serious. I think it shows a lack of concern for our fellow people to laugh it off.

And what are you saying? That you know it will never have a spiritual effect?
 
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I was just wondering if it was considered satanic or witchcraft for a Christian to play D&D. My Christian boyfriend plays it and some of the characters he describes are pretty creepy. He even skips church to play it most of the time. He says it's not evil and I want to believe him, because he is a Christian, but I need other opinions on this. I'm curious.
Is this something he does online?
 
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I messed with an Ouija Board when I was younger, thinking it was innocent & harmless. The tray that is pushed around with the fingers of two people moved by itself without either of us touching it. We asked several questions & it spelled out intelligible thjings. Then I asked the question, "Who is Jesus Christ?" It spelled out without us pushing it around, "Go to hell."

I burned the board & tray. Don't mess with anything having to do with any form of evil or have it in your house.
Someone (someone present and touching the thingie, or more than one person) is always moving it. If not on purpose, then random muscle twitches and the unsteadiness of your hand being held on something like that will move it a bit. Then you get excited, scared, and it seems to move more.

Want to test this? You don't even have to play the game. Just set the thingie on the board and ask your question (you're asking no one, so it doesn't count as necromancy). But DON'T TOUCH THE THINGIE. Watch. Wait. Don't forget to use the bathroom, drink water, and eat food. You're going to be there for a very long time waiting for the "demons" to do this simple task.

Maybe that's not enough? Think your hand is really steady, and you're not the one moving it? Don't want to "test" the evil spirit world of the cheap, waste-of-money board game? Unfold a paperclip and turn it into a loose "V." Turn it upside-down. Hold it up with the tip of a butterknife. Try to hold it steady enough so that the paperclip "stands" on your kitchen table, without trembling or moving. Good luck.

Anyone who wants to test this claim with the board can securely blindfold the participants and sit them down at the board without letting them see how its oriented. Put their hands on the thingie. Watch the "demons" either do nothing or spell demonic threats like "LM" and "ZRP."

It was originally sold as a parlour game that was not considered to have anything to do with "spirits." It's as if, decades after basketball was invented, some nut decided that a basketball was secretly a way to communicate with spirits. Throw it at the basket: if it goes in, "yes." If not, no. Okay, great communication system there, demons.

It's a silly game that people use to scare themselves or their friends. I appreciate that you had a scary experience, but I feel certain that no demons were involved.

Regardless, Ouija boards (a silly game) have literally nothing to do with Dungeons and Dragons, which was originally a game of imagined exploration that involved resource management (food, torches, etc) more than it did anything else.
 
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Since you asked baptistgirl21 I would never play it. To many of us believe only in what we see. The bible is true but has allot of "stories" in it :). At 58 I have seen to many things. To many families with problems and you ask about "certain things" they might have in the house and they do. After getting ride of them.. how odd those problems they were having are gone. This "door" way :) one does not have to agree on or even believe in. Adam and Eve didn't agree to anything had no idea who was really talking to them.

I read the bible and it or HE tells me the things He does not like and things I should not do. So this game deals in what? Things the word of God told me are OK to play with? So my Father aka GOD is not in it.. gets no glory what so ever. I don't have to think or talk about Him at all.

As long as I tell God "I can do this its ok".. guess what He will say to that? Nothing. So I would say pray ask Him not what man thinks. There are "pastors" that play this. That mean its ok? See you pray you seek you ask HIM. Mean it from your heart :) and He will show you in His word the answer.
 
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Of course the effect will vary widely depending on the person and the environment. But that doesn't mean there is no effect. For some it will be a trivial effect. For others it could be serious. I think it shows a lack of concern for our fellow people to laugh it off.

And what are you saying? That you know it will never have a spiritual effect?

No. Not with that. Having fear of the “darkside” from something like D&D is just silly superstition. What should i be afraid of? Some demon dragging me to hell? Will i lose salvation from Jesus did? Or will i end up going to party city to by a cheap druid tunic and do some fake ritual behind a college campus during the night?

There are things in the media that are much more bad in influence and real then some fantasy-fiction horror game. You are telling me this boring game that requires probably more than 40 hrs - with probably more than 3 people to play - to get interesting is what the devil can come up with to turn you away from God?
 
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Someone (someone present and touching the thingie, or more than one person) is always moving it. If not on purpose, then random muscle twitches and the unsteadiness of your hand being held on something like that will move it a bit. Then you get excited, scared, and it seems to move more.

That is fine if you don't believe me or want to suggest I was lying.

I WASN'T. I thought my friend was moving it, so I curled my fingers so an obvious 'gap' was between my fingers & the tray & I wasn't touching it. He had done the same thing as I did & i saw the gap between his fingers. Neither one of us was touching it. We pulled our hands back & realized neither one of us had been moving it. It kept going around in a circle one more time & then stopped.

We got alarmed for a bit but being curious kids we started doing it again.

It seems obvious you don't believe in the spiritual world & demonic manifestations but that is OK, too. I have dealt with demons on various occasions & demon possessed people & they are real. The Scriptures talk about their manifestations as real. Jesus talked about them as real. They are not a figment of someone's imagination.
 
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I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. How does it lead you into the occult? If you play a fantasy board game and then based off that, decide that you want to become a sorcerer, something is wrong. That's like watching Captain America and then deciding that you want to pump yourself full of steroids and then deciding to go out and beat up German people. That's like watching a civil war movie and deciding that you wanna start a new civil war and bring back the confederate states of America. Do you see my point?
I know what you are saying, but no. There is an evil spirit behind the game. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil seemed fine to Eve. Satan cast doubt on God's integrity, showed her how nice the fruit was and she was hooked. To some extent, the effect of movies, TV shows, games and such depends on the individual. I can watch things a lady friend of mine cannot. However, occult themes are never safe.
 
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The occult appeals to two types: the curious and those seeking power. You’ll inevitably bump against your moral compass en route. The curious quickly realize its not for them and they lack the desire to control others. They pursue a different course.

Those driven by control encounter little resistance imposing their will on others or violating their desires in some way. That is not the result of occult exposure but innate flaws within them which heightens its appeal.

They had that coming in. The occult exacerbates the problem. It doesn’t create it.

~Bella
 
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Odd thing is, both of these are true. The game is so diverse you can't give one answer to the question. It can range anywhere from a simple board game to something pretty nasty. In the end it's more about the people who play it than the game itself.

If it's causing someone's behavior to change - he used to attend church regularly and now he doesn't - I'd be concerned. But I wouldn't recommend some kind of edict banning him from playing. Rather, you need to help him see the effect it's having.



Darn. So all those studies about how games are a good way to teach were wrong. Well, I guess it's back to having students 'toe the line'.
If modern ejgekashun techniques were working, you'd have a point. Recent news reports include criminals running away from a home evasion and a hero rescuing an animal completely emerged. Spel chekker doze not help even if the journalist could be bothered using it.
 
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No. Not with that. Having fear of the “darkside” from something like D&D is just silly superstition. What should i be afraid of? Some demon dragging me to hell? Will i lose salvation from Jesus did? Or will i end up going to party city to by a cheap druid tunic and do some fake ritual behind a college campus during the night?

Maybe you won't. But it would be a mistake to think everyone will react the same way you will. I've seen kids mimic things from the games they play, the books they read, and the shows they watch. It does happen.
 
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If modern ejgekashun techniques were working, you'd have a point. Recent news reports include criminals running away from a home evasion and a hero rescuing an animal completely emerged. Spel chekker doze not help even if the journalist could be bothered using it.

I didn't say games teach people to spell. There are some basics that require boring ol' memorization. But engaging the pupil is important as the lessons become more complex. Education is about much more than learning to spell. And people have been complaining about education since Eve tried to teach Cain not to hit his brother.
 
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Maybe you won't. But it would be a mistake to think everyone will react the same way you will. I've seen kids mimic things from the games they play, the books they read, and the shows they watch. It does happen.

Nothing of what they will mimic in that game is real. It only is dangerous (or has a chance to have effects) if you believe it to be. It doesnt happen with this game, harry potter, or any of those works of fiction.
 
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I was just wondering if it was considered satanic or witchcraft for a Christian to play D&D. My Christian boyfriend plays it and some of the characters he describes are pretty creepy. He even skips church to play it most of the time. He says it's not evil and I want to believe him, because he is a Christian, but I need other opinions on this. I'm curious.
My thought process is comparing it with the following parallel:

The bible has passages where there are evil cults, genocide, and witch craft. He says it's not evil and I want to believe him, because he is a Christian, but I need other opinions on this. I'm curious.

The comparison is drawn because the question of sin with D&D is a sin of imagination.

So for each person, there is a different reaction.
 
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Nothing of what they will mimic in that game is real. It only is dangerous (or has a chance to have effects) if you believe it to be. It doesnt happen with this game, harry potter, or any of those works of fiction.

Whether or not it's real depends on what you're referring to, and I don't know what you specifically have in mind. Regardless, I would amend your statement slightly. Rather than, "It only is dangerous (or has a chance to have effects) if you believe it to be," I would say it is dangerous if it changes your beliefs and/or causes you to act based on what the game promotes.
 
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Whether or not it's real depends on what you're referring to, and I don't know what you specifically have in mind. Regardless, I would amend your statement slightly. Rather than, "It only is dangerous (or has a chance to have effects) if you believe it to be," I would say it is dangerous if it changes your beliefs and/or causes you to act based on what the game promotes.

All the contents that you think children can learn in D&D or any dark horror fantasy game/movie isnt real. Its not promoting satanism, its merely some guys imagination. There are people who just like horror and fantasy elements.. we like seeing worlds characters battle vampires, ghosts, demons or whatever with powers. Thats all it is, entertainment.
 
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